Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition

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Insanitor Apr 9, 2020 @ 10:47am
[Spoilers] Regarding the Story
So, I just finished the game and I can't help but feel we're kinda the bad guys here. Poor Kuro had every right to be angry at the tree and even when we learn about this, we just keep pressing forward. Am I missing something to get like the "good" ending, or is this it? :o
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Stretchyf Apr 9, 2020 @ 12:01pm 
Everything bad happened during the Prologue: Kuro's chicks died, the Spirit Tree lost his light (Sein) and a lot of spirits died. How can you change that if you were not actually playing yet?

I also cannot understand why that light ceremony was so rough, so bright that it killed these baby owls. But we are not presented with any information about how often these ceremonies occur and how they look the other time. It is presented to us, that all that was about to find Ori and get him/her (them) back... so if Ori weren't lost to the storm, then nothing would had happened? I'm not happy with that and I don't expect this from an old and wise tree who knows (via Sein at least) everything about inhabitants of Nibel. Looks like plot hole to me.

In light of revelations considering Will of the Wisps's plot some new hypothesis can be thrown in, but it is another topic.

But when you start the game - you are the only spirit left and Nibel is going deep into decay. You have only two options: save Nibel or die, - because as a spirit of light you can't last long without the Spirit Light. Probably there should be available a third one - leave Nibel and use time available to you to find another Spirit Tree and stay there - but you have no information regarding this to make a decision. Probably after meeting Sein and having the very own source of the Spirit Light Ori could just sit on their hands and do nothing. But it in the long run Ori probably need to eat something and there is nothing to eat in Nibel now.

So you presented with Sein, who at least know what to do or having a plan at least, because you (Ori) are looking clueless about all this. And, as it is seen in the end, by saving Nibel Ori saved the last Kuro's child and that devastation, Kuro brought to Nibel, also wasn't an answer, if saving the last baby owl was the ultimate goal.

So for me it was right to keep pressing forward from every perspective. I actually very much like the words Sein said when Ori escaped from Kuro after Forlorn Ruins. It was like "now we know what goals our foe has, but we not share them and have our own instead". It is very much close to life. Like "Yes, we are guilty, but we are not going to die just because of it and consider devastation brought on us also unacceptable."

So for me it was the wrong by the Spirit Tree, then it was the wrong by Kuro, but what wrong Ori did? Just do nothing and die being not only an unpleasant option for a young spirit but also would result in Kuro's last child dead and Nibel turned to decay and become inhabitable for most of beings. Kuro was presented with an option either try to save her child or to save herself and you know what option she had chosen.
Rocketai Apr 10, 2020 @ 7:18am 
One thing I don't understand is why the light from the Spirit Tree killed Kuro's chicks? Is that like... A common occurance? I thought the Spirit Tree protected the beings of the forest, yet, we're shown it just killing innocent chicks. It seems like it was an accident, but how often does that occur? Do creatures just... Die randomly by the sudden light from time to time?

It's so weird how *that* isn't more explored, that the Spirit Tree isn't a 100% safeguard. I don't blame Kuro in the slightest in this case - how can you live and feel safe in a forest if the tree that is supposedly guarding it just randomly kills other creatures?
Stretchyf Apr 10, 2020 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by Rocketai:
One thing I don't understand is why the light from the Spirit Tree killed Kuro's chicks? Is that like... A common occurance? I thought the Spirit Tree protected the beings of the forest, yet, we're shown it just killing innocent chicks. It seems like it was an accident, but how often does that occur? Do creatures just... Die randomly by the sudden light from time to time?

It's so weird how *that* isn't more explored, that the Spirit Tree isn't a 100% safeguard. I don't blame Kuro in the slightest in this case - how can you live and feel safe in a forest if the tree that is supposedly guarding it just randomly kills other creatures?
I think it is probably because Owls are considered the creatures of darkness so light is harmful to them.

And Kuro *doesn't own* that forest and looks more like a guest here to me comparing to spirits and the Spirit tree. Because, you know, owl is a very mobile creature while tree isn't and spirits cannot just leave their tree and go - they will start to die if they unable to find any substitute for tree's Spirit Light. So they should guard their tree if they want to live.

As I already said that Light Ceremony looked very much off and I don't understand why that happened. May be lack of communication? You may be have noticed, Ori "converted" last Kuro's child to being creature of light just by touching the egg. So normal procedure should be for the Spirit Tree to be aware about the owls in the forest and either keep light pollution levels moderate or send a delegation of spirits to make a "vaccination" of Kuro's chicks to make them creatures of light and not suffering from light as the result.

But not to blame Kuro, really? Rough example and sorry for that, but what if truck driver would run over someone's child by accident and that poor kid died. Do his father have a moral right to burn the truck and kill every children that trucks's driver has?
Dracology Jul 31, 2020 @ 6:11pm 
Yeah this was my problem with the game too. The story was just kinda.. whut? Kuro's kids get roasted although Kuro who seems to be closer doesn't? But there is seemingly no reason for it to happen as we never see any other instance of it ever in the game.. Kuro rightly decides to attack the apparently deadly to creatures tree and we spend the game going about undoing things. It even seems like in the end its our actions that put the last egg into danger in the first place. The Kuro just.. puts the spirit back and sits there right next to it and gets vaporized instead of looking for cover. It felt so.. contrived and hollow.
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Date Posted: Apr 9, 2020 @ 10:47am
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