Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition

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Quadsword Aug 7, 2017 @ 8:25pm
So about that one life mode...
So I was originally determined to get all the achievements in this game - something I rarely, if ever, do - because of how much I love it. I was going through the achievement list and saw this: "Complete the game on one life mode."

Yeah... I don't think so. I don't want my love of this game to be tainted by the frustration of trying to get through it without dying once. I can barely get through the starting areas without taking a few accidental deaths here and there.
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Mizufluffy Aug 7, 2017 @ 9:22pm 
I haven't got that achievement yet but I don't think the game is actually too hard to get it. My the least amount of deaths in a playthrough has been 23 (quite an improvement from my first playthrough in the original version when I had 613 deaths) and about 8-10 of them were from the Black Root Burrows, the last five or so were in the Mount Horu purely because I was getting a little bit nervous because I was trying to play the game with as few deaths as possible and beat my old personal record of 32 (or was it 33?) deaths.

If I'd skip the whole BRB area and could stay calm until the credits then that would leave me with about 8 deaths and I would have to improve my overall playing enough that I wouldn't do simple mistakes. So, even though I haven't got the achievement yet I don't believe it is quite as hard as it sounds but I don't really have plans on trying to get it anytime soon because right now I'm more interested in some other games.
Endulien Aug 7, 2017 @ 10:55pm 
I was just looking at the global achievements list and found some stats interesting. About 0.4% of players have actually earned that achievement. I will never be one of them. Also of interest, was that only about a quarter of players of this game actually finish it (I am not one of them quite yet, but soon will), also only about half even make it past the first part of the game. And apparently, there are sizable minority (about 25%) who don't even complete the prologue. It'd be fascinating to do some kind of research study on the different kinds of players of these games. There appears to be those who buy it, start it, and quit almost immediately, those who plod slowly through the game when the mood strikes (me), those who make a point of completing it with some dedication, and even those who master such a game so completely that they can beat it without dying once. These are probably the same people who can play a perfect game of Pac-Man or something.
Matcha Aug 7, 2017 @ 11:16pm 
I got Unhinged few days ago, and I can tell you it was extremely frustrated process.

I complete other 55 achievements in 5 or 6 runs (about 20 hr), then I spent extra 100 hr to try one life mode, and finally got it. Note that making few times death to zero death may harder then you previously expect.

But as you accomplish the challenge, you will feel all the effort is worthy XD

Here is my unhinged playthrough, maybe helpful for you.

https://youtu.be/c-wCvkjxBgY
Mizufluffy Aug 7, 2017 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by Matcha:
Note that making few times death to zero death may harder then you previously expect.
I don't expect it to be easy. Just one minor mistake can ruin two to three hours of gameplay and make you start the playthrough from the very beginning. I'm not doing well under pressure which could be the biggest issue for me when (or if) I'll try to get the Unhinged.

However, there are just a few places that I'm mostly worried about during a playthrough; every instant death place is obviously something that can easily become a problem (especially in the Mount Horu which has quite many possible places for that despite of the area being quite easy to get through), spikes in the Sorrow Pass do high damage and the Forlorn Ruins escape section with falling icicles are some of the areas that I'm the most concerned about. There are a few other places that comes to my mind that could pose a threat but if I skip the Black Root Burrows or at least avoid it until getting Kuro's feather then there isn't much more what I'd be worried about. Enemies and most of the platforming is easy if you can avoid making simple mistakes and stay calm.
Groen90 Aug 8, 2017 @ 2:44am 
Here's some advice that may help you and maybe even encourage you to try... I think it was still fun in the end despite all the deaths.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=791870757
(totally not shameless self-advertising lol)

Originally posted by Mizufluffy:
Originally posted by Matcha:
Note that making few times death to zero death may harder then you previously expect.
I don't expect it to be easy. Just one minor mistake can ruin two to three hours of gameplay and make you start the playthrough from the very beginning. I'm not doing well under pressure which could be the biggest issue for me when (or if) I'll try to get the Unhinged.

However, there are just a few places that I'm mostly worried about during a playthrough; every instant death place is obviously something that can easily become a problem (especially in the Mount Horu which has quite many possible places for that despite of the area being quite easy to get through), spikes in the Sorrow Pass do high damage and the Forlorn Ruins escape section with falling icicles are some of the areas that I'm the most concerned about. There are a few other places that comes to my mind that could pose a threat but if I skip the Black Root Burrows or at least avoid it until getting Kuro's feather then there isn't much more what I'd be worried about. Enemies and most of the platforming is easy if you can avoid making simple mistakes and stay calm.
I too tend to mess things up under pressure, and this run is the very definition of it... however something I found very useful was starting a playthrough on normal and saving into a different slot whenever I felt there was a dangerous section, so that I could try it over and over without fear of dying until I felt confident, particularly right before I had to go through those sections in one-life mode itself.
Melodia Aug 8, 2017 @ 6:55am 
If you REALLY want it just for the achievement, you should be able to save scum.
LinkSamus3 Aug 8, 2017 @ 7:12pm 
Originally posted by Groen90:
Here's some advice that may help you and maybe even encourage you to try... I think it was still fun in the end despite all the deaths.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=791870757

I too tend to mess things up under pressure, and this run is the very definition of it... however something I found very useful was starting a playthrough on normal and saving into a different slot whenever I felt there was a dangerous section, so that I could try it over and over without fear of dying until I felt confident, particularly right before I had to go through those sections in one-life mode itself.
Those were actually the very things I was going to suggest. It's not surprising you beat me to it. But for me there were 2 differences. 1: Your method for completing the top-left puzzle room in Mount Horu didn't work for me, and I had already come up with a method that did. So anybody that needs help with that part, come to me. 2: I did my training on Hard mode, for 2 reasons. First, I wanted to make sure I could do it well enough without getting everything from the Ability Tree, which would allow me to feel comfortable skipping Black Root Burrows and Lost Grove. Few too many instant-death hazards in there. Second, since you take more damage on Hard mode and it is therefore easier to die, I could make sure that I got better than I needed to be, so that I could play One Life mode somewhat more relaxed as a result. When I get nervous, things tend to not go well.

Originally posted by Agent:
I don't want my love of this game to be tainted by the frustration of trying to get through it without dying once.
That was a major problem for me as well. But I found that, every 2 or 3 attempts, when the frustration would start to mount, if I stopped playing Ori and played other games for a while (like 6-8 weeks), the frustration would go away and I would want to try it again anyway. Now, granted, some of that may have been due to me being a rabid completionist and knowing that that achievement was just barely possible, dangling just out of my reach, but that was my experience. Take from it what you will.
caelcyndar5 Aug 10, 2017 @ 6:10pm 
I highly doubt I'd ever get this achievement. It usually takes me a few dozen deaths just to get through the escape sequence in the Ginso Tree.
Firebee Aug 12, 2017 @ 3:15am 
Well at least the game don't ask you 100% complete in 1 life mode like in Hollow Knight so you can choose speed run the game to get the achievement. Any way memory the obstacles and luck is all you need :ori: . Also if you feel not safe enough you can do little trick with save file backup them somewhere and if you die just copy paste the old save file and boom you got a time machine or quit the game at the moment you dead before the line: "You died" appear.
Last edited by Firebee; Aug 12, 2017 @ 3:18am
LinkSamus3 Aug 12, 2017 @ 6:15pm 
Originally posted by VNFirebee:
Also if you feel not safe enough you can do little trick with save file backup them somewhere and if you die just copy paste the old save file and boom you got a time machine or quit the game at the moment you dead before the line: "You died" appear.
You actually can't do those things. Once you start a One Life file, the game won't let you copy it. You can only do that with your practice/training files. And even though on the other difficulty levels, you can quickly exit after you die and go back without the death being counted, if you do that on One Life, there will be a "dead Ori" symbol over the image of your file and it will put you back at the beginning of the game if you start it, because it still recognizes the death. But regardless, you shouldn't go back into a One Life file after you've died on it, because of the glitch.
Melodia Aug 13, 2017 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by dungeonconquerorB:
= Once you start a One Life file, the game won't let you copy it.

Good thing the game can't control Windows Explorer.
Groen90 Aug 13, 2017 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by Melodia:
Originally posted by dungeonconquerorB:
= Once you start a One Life file, the game won't let you copy it.

Good thing the game can't control Windows Explorer.
I mean, if you're going to cheat like that there's no point in even playing; there are ways to unlock achievements without even starting the game if that's all you want.
Firebee Aug 13, 2017 @ 9:10pm 
Originally posted by Groen90:
Originally posted by Melodia:

Good thing the game can't control Windows Explorer.
I mean, if you're going to cheat like that there's no point in even playing; there are ways to unlock achievements without even starting the game if that's all you want.
Yea i remember there is a guide about copy paste save file to get the achievement. Well for me i don't care much about cheating with backup save file since i spend about 110 hours on both the Original version and Definitive version to learn and remember every obstacles, shortcuts and Ori's move pattern in game and ofc i get both zero death and one life achievement without cheating :ori: .
Last edited by Firebee; Aug 13, 2017 @ 9:14pm
Matcha Aug 13, 2017 @ 10:36pm 
Originally posted by VNFirebee:
Well for me i don't care much about cheating with backup save file since i spend about 110 hours on both the Original version and Definitive version to learn and remember every obstacles, shortcuts and Ori's move pattern in game and ofc i get both zero death and one life achievement without cheating :ori: .

I'm not that patient as you Q_Q. I got DE 'unhinged' without cheating, too. But when I go back for original version I do cheat to get 'immortal' (back up saves in main menu). I'm a little tired to practice another 50 or 100 hrs. :gumo:
curiosity Jun 18, 2018 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Endulien:
And apparently, there are sizable minority (about 25%) who don't even complete the prologue.

Lol, I just realized I fall in the same category after reading your comment. I already played the Ori-ginal on console so I just skipped the prologue every time in DE. I think I'll go back and complete it now.
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