Ship battles vs Assassins Creed IV Black Flag

[hyperion]

I just have to say this. I remember back when this game was first released and I had to hear too much about how the Black Flag ship battles were soooo much better.

I'll just say this. I have Black Flag, I recently purchased it during the Black Friday sales and it is a good game, and much better optimized at this point, than this game. And the graphics are better than this game. However, the ship battles are not better and in fact, they are not as good. I mean they are pretty brain dead affairs. You just shoot and the other ship sinks and that's it. There's no strategy or skill involved. But it feels good. The ship battles in this game are far superior to Black Flag.

[Zaris]

We must have played different games. I played both and must say, the ship battles are the same. The only difference is:
- AC Blackflag: you get a visible help for shooting where your cannons will hit
- Ravens Cry: you have no visible help and have to set the high for your cannons by feeling and after a shot you can adjust it (higher, lower) and shoot again. After a while you have the feeling for it

Your options to control your ship and that you face multiple enemies sometimes are the same in both games.

[💋SayonaraBaby☠]

You should spent some more time with both games because you seem to miss a lot of things on both sides.

In Vendetta:

-You do have a visible help if you either press Q or E (Check manual for controller), there is also a button for the front cannons. The problem is the tutorial doesnt teach you all of that.

- If you sink ships simply you get no loot.

- You can only board a ship if all others in the area have been defeated.

- Ship damage is much more detailed

- Ships physics are way better and need more practise.

- different from AC Black Flag Boarding is turnbased and your main crew members will influence the outcome

- You can captain different ships


In Black Falg:

- You have more open world sea roam

- The costumization features of your ship at least visually are more

- outside battles you can visit places to dive to find sunken treassures

- destroy the enemy ships you still get lot

- you can board any ship any time even if others try attacking you (though during boarding you take no damage)

- You cannot decide who joins your crew or not

- boarding is more action based and depending on the ship give you different tasks such as shooting the black powder barrels killing the captain or the lookouts and kill a certain amount of crewmembers

- Black Flags trading features are very limited

- you can walk on your own ship more freely and enter the cabin

- you dont really have to worry which goods you take on board after capturing an enemy ship because there is a simple limit for each type of cannon balls, tradable stuff, crewmembers etc

- there are no needs for proviant

- crew morale is nonexistant

- ships can always be repaired after boarding another ship

- sinking either french, english or spanish ships will give you a wanted level, there is however no faction reptutation and thats why other ships will usually not be hostile to you

- legendary ship battle is a very fun and challanging thing in AC Black Flag but the physics in them will proof really bad.


there are more things but i think you already see the difference ...

[Elstar]

The biggest in combat is that the combat in Black flag is unbalanced where your ship can dish too much more damadge with weak points on your opponents The boarind like all land combat is also too easy where you feel like a one man army doing most of the job while bording. The need to aim with the mouse makes fireing two broadsides at the same time hard. I prefer the peraim elevation system in Vendetta.

The open wold sailing in Black flag sailing is nice though, where you have a smaller map where it takes minutes to sail instead of days as in reality. You have a better "relationship" with your ship in Black Flag than in Vendetta where your ship is more of a tool for transportation and combat.

[DSpecht]

If you have problems predicting where the projectiles will land you can also add a visible indicator in the option menu. I think this isn't possible to do on 'Normal' difficulty though.

[Zaris]

Originally posted by ☠Sayonara Baby☠:

there are more things but i think you already see the difference ...

The comparison was about ship battles not trading or other gameplay details besides of that. The boarding seems to be different yes. I can't remember the procedure because i played Ravens Cry at original release over a year ago. Afair i never boarded a ship in this game, only shot the crew before and i was in chapter 4 with the best ship available until the bugs made it unplayable.

And yes in Ravens Cry you could buy different ship types while in AC Blackflag / Rogue you upgrade your ship until it has over 50 cannons like a greater warship. Both games lack in detail here because the real man o war had 200-300 cannons just saying.

[💋SayonaraBaby☠]

Originally posted by Refas:

Originally posted by ☠Sayonara Baby☠:

there are more things but i think you already see the difference ...

The comparison was about ship battles not trading or other gameplay details

Thats what I explained if you read what I wrote.

[joxertm22]

Originally posted by hyperion:

I just have to say this. I remember back when this game was first released and I had to hear too much about how the Black Flag ship battles were soooo much better.

I'll just say this. I have Black Flag, I recently purchased it during the Black Friday sales and it is a good game, and much better optimized at this point, than this game. And the graphics are better than this game. However, the ship battles are not better and in fact, they are not as good. I mean they are pretty brain dead affairs. You just shoot and the other ship sinks and that's it. There's no strategy or skill involved. But it feels good. The ship battles in this game are far superior to Black Flag.

Why did you do that? Why didn't you just ask?

I have all AC games except Syndicate on uPlay. And finished them all (except broken overhyped garbage Unity).
You may add me as friend on uPlay, same nick (joxertm22) to check it.

AC4 is just another in series of Ubi's unoptimized ports (microstutters even after all patches, game chokes one CPU core while the rest are not being used) and I cannot recommend it to anyone.
AC:Rogue however is perfectly optimized and that's the game you should have bought instead - it uses the similar ship fights as AC4.

There is a difference between AC shipfights and RC shipfights - in AC, boarding is "swordfight" action while in RC it's a minigame.
That aside because it depends on players' taste which system they'll prefer, but cannon use is definetly better in RC in my opinion.

To everyone else who's planning to buy AC4. Just don't. Skip it. If you want Assassins Creed shipfights game, buy AC:Rogue as it's 100 times better game, is less repetitive and less boring than AC4. Unlike AC4, it's optimized and you won't see any microstutters, crashes, freezes or other bugs.
On top of that, AC:Rogue has a superb soundtrack.

AC games are AC games. AC games are not RPGs.
Raven's Cry is storydriven RPG and as such is similar to Sea Dogs series - it has nothing in common with AC games. Just as shipfights were fun in Sea Dogs and it's sequels and "sequels", those are fun in Raven's Cry too.

[Zvitatzki]

wishfully vendetta get an dlc on more focus ship battles and free roam activitys :)

sorry bad english