Reaching engineer lvl30... game over!

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

For real? In fact you are not matched with the whole population before reaching lvl30 in engineer? and then? Seal clubbing party? No way to play without paying to go forward because you cannot win a damn game?

Speak loud... because all ppl need to know that before getting addicted after grinding 30 lvl just to get blowed up over and over except if they use their wallet to buy some better weapons and join the "seal clubbing" fan club themself.

I got only "special" weapons (maces x 3) and I'm matched at 5K ps with ppl with EPIC and Leg weapons is that fair? Seal clubbing FTW! (and yeah some are using "White cabins"!)

So much fun...

So if I want to "survive" I need to... open the wallet and start seal clubbing! but! I won't this game for me is just a filler going to change soon and not going to come back.

but keep spending money feeding this kind of games just milking an already old economic model that should have disapeared a long time ago.

Is this a rant? yeah? do I care? no.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2181742114
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2181742361
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2181742229

(Chameleon in the back)

So what do I need to change to no be dead in a few second by leg and epic weapons? :)

[I am Goyim]

Oprindeligt skrevet af piotr.sharek:

I had the idea that PS is not enough to divide the game match into colors of parts. adding epic parts on low PS will prevent you from reaching new players because you have a different color of the weapon and they will not come into contact with whales. but the developer didn't like it and the faithful dogs torpedoed the idea.

people are dumb. i think thats a great idea

[xCrossFaith]

I mean... The main problem with that is the fact that while the PS difference between categories is too low, higher category doesn't mean higher effectiveness..

Just for the sake of comparison, is easier to sealclub with Goblins (special) than with Aspects (legendary)

In order for all this to work sooo many things should be changed, which tbh, is not likely to happen anytime soon, or anytime at all.

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

Was fine this afternoon rebuilt my whole car with piercers and win a bunch of game and now.... was pretty hyped and happy but.... seal clubbers are back and you feel like those 2 hours you spended rebuilding is put down to... nothing.

DEV? I'm not going to spend a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dime on your game NOPE zerooooo! I will watch it die and reborn under another name in a few years. Like most crappy F2P did in the past 10 years ago or so?

[Ragequit Inc.]

Oprindeligt skrevet af piotr.sharek:

I had the idea that PS is not enough to divide the game match into colors of parts...

I've been thinking the exact same thing. So +1 from me. But I can see why the devs wouldn't like it. Nonetheless they should atleast test it, perhaps in a separate mission type or some such.

[WiNdSuRfEr]

You are playing at 5k PS with only 800 durability on a cancer build.... so you don't have enough life and you are the most wanted by the others players. Stay around 3k until you have better weapons..

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

Better weapon for 5k ps? lol those can go up to 6k ps.... at 5k PS having one or multiple epic on vehicule is seal clubbing and I'm not talking about legendary (yellow) weapons....

Even at 6K ps some ppl running seal clubbing build with 3 epic (1 cab 2 bumpers 2 or 3 armor pieces and thats it) so ... before trying to teach someone double check what you are saying.

Now i've redone my build for 6k ps and it works pretty well.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2182840171

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

protecting cabin with bumpers yeah it will absorb 1 or 2 direct canon hit but it doesnt add to the health pool + it weights a lot. From the info I gathered protecting the cabin is not mandatory since a long time ago after some update they did.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Crossout/comments/8b3wyi/crossout_tip_you_dont_need_to_cover_your_cab_with/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Crossout/comments/7ye0kh/any_reason_to_armor_the_cabin/

and so on

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

Now cabin not protected? (seal clubbers happy hours right now) Spended again a couple of hours the more I build the more I think I'm a genious. But the game slap you back at the reality "you don't join the seal club you loose"

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2183335848

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2183335299

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

Oprindeligt skrevet af piotr.sharek:

I had the idea that PS is not enough to divide the game match into colors of parts. adding epic parts on low PS will prevent you from reaching new players because you have a different color of the weapon and they will not come into contact with whales. but the developer didn't like it and the faithful dogs torpedoed the idea.

Best solution to me and pretty simple to do....
You make an average of "Weapon power score of every single player in a match"
If power score total is not equal on "average" for both team well.... ppl that get the MOST weapon power score get a penalty of X% over the total damage of their weapons.

What this would do? ppl that build cars with the weapons that fit the brackets wouldn't have any penalty and have the most benefits over the car they just built. END OF THE SEAL CLUBBING! hurray!

But thats if the "greddy dev's" wanted to fix the matchmaking isssue... They probably had this idea in their pockets already. This is done in Many mmo's to balance PVP (WoW? :))

But... no because they are milking money out of it. And allow more seal clubbers to join the party by spending buks overs the cashshop to buy those shiny weapons!

Feel free to submit this idea if you got the "contact" for....

end of the story!

[xCrossFaith]

Oprindeligt skrevet af AlexKidd62FR:

Oprindeligt skrevet af piotr.sharek:

I had the idea that PS is not enough to divide the game match into colors of parts. adding epic parts on low PS will prevent you from reaching new players because you have a different color of the weapon and they will not come into contact with whales. but the developer didn't like it and the faithful dogs torpedoed the idea.

Best solution to me and pretty simple to do....
You make an average of "Weapon power score of every single player in a match"
If power score total is not equal on "average" for both team well.... ppl that get the MOST weapon power score get a penalty of X% over the total damage of their weapons.

What this would do? ppl that build cars with the weapons that fit the brackets wouldn't have any penalty and have the most benefits over the car they just built. END OF THE SEAL CLUBBING! hurray!

But thats if the "greddy dev's" wanted to fix the matchmaking isssue... They probably had this idea in their pockets already. This is done in Many mmo's to balance PVP (WoW? :))

But... no because they are milking money out of it. And allow more seal clubbers to join the party by spending buks overs the cashshop to buy those shiny weapons!

Feel free to submit this idea if you got the "contact" for....

end of the story!

What that would do, is to entirely remove light weapons from the matches, not everyone likes to play high alpha damage weapons despite they are the most popular and easisest to use, if a team goes full cannons, but one of them goes with machine guns and you reduce damage of those, you can pretty much just make that person self destroy right away since it won't do anything

If you keep the idea that sealclubbing depends exclusively on the weapon PS, just remember that is easier to sealclub with special and epic weapons than with some legendaries


I'm going to be honest here, people bashes devs a lot, but when it comes to ideas about fixing the game, they are really really on the same lines as theirs.. "Just punish players" "just take the easiest less effort way"


Why not... Ready yourself, this may shock you... Why not.. Ready?.. Why not.... Give players a real reason to go higher in ps, where they should according to their builds?

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

Oprindeligt skrevet af xCrossFaith:

Oprindeligt skrevet af AlexKidd62FR:

Best solution to me and pretty simple to do....
You make an average of "Weapon power score of every single player in a match"
If power score total is not equal on "average" for both team well.... ppl that get the MOST weapon power score get a penalty of X% over the total damage of their weapons.

What this would do? ppl that build cars with the weapons that fit the brackets wouldn't have any penalty and have the most benefits over the car they just built. END OF THE SEAL CLUBBING! hurray!

But thats if the "greddy dev's" wanted to fix the matchmaking isssue... They probably had this idea in their pockets already. This is done in Many mmo's to balance PVP (WoW? :))

But... no because they are milking money out of it. And allow more seal clubbers to join the party by spending buks overs the cashshop to buy those shiny weapons!

Feel free to submit this idea if you got the "contact" for....

end of the story!

What that would do, is to entirely remove light weapons from the matches, not everyone likes to play high alpha damage weapons despite they are the most popular and easisest to use, if a team goes full cannons, but one of them goes with machine guns and you reduce damage of those, you can pretty much just make that person self destroy right away since it won't do anything

If you keep the idea that sealclubbing depends exclusively on the weapon PS, just remember that is easier to sealclub with special and epic weapons than with some legendaries


I'm going to be honest here, people bashes devs a lot, but when it comes to ideas about fixing the game, they are really really on the same lines as theirs.. "Just punish players" "just take the easiest less effort way"


Why not... Ready yourself, this may shock you... Why not.. Ready?.. Why not.... Give players a real reason to go higher in ps, where they should according to their builds?

Ready for what? Canons? 2 epic canon on a frame with white wheels and a grawl cab at the back protected by the 2 canons at the front thats can backward turn faster than I can go arround him because at 6k ps I don't have an epic engine and get shred?

Ready for 3 wasp slapped on sideways overs with only a cab on it?

Ready for 4 epic saw chains slapped on a frame with only a cab at the back and maybe a white reactor?

Ready for.... I can continue on and on...

Be real.... my vehicules belong where they should modules/weapons included yet if I strip down everything except pure vehicule part It goes down to 3 / 4k adding weapons/modules push it to 6k.

So no I won't "ready" to join the seal club just because the game want me to do it. I prefer to quit.

I play this game to build a battle car.. not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ frame with some epic parts on it which looks like a piece of ♥♥♥♥ you made in a few minutes.

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

Oh just get blowed by a guy with 2 fafnir 2200 PS + grawl cab 750 ps and 6 wheels and a few armor parts at 5 / 6k ps. Mean that half is PS comes from weapons and cab... Should I get ready? NO.

All this is wrong and nothing seems to be done against that. Just look at the damage the fafnir is outputting tell me how I can survive 2 shots of this at the same time....

[xCrossFaith]

Oprindeligt skrevet af AlexKidd62FR:

Oprindeligt skrevet af xCrossFaith:

What that would do, is to entirely remove light weapons from the matches, not everyone likes to play high alpha damage weapons despite they are the most popular and easisest to use, if a team goes full cannons, but one of them goes with machine guns and you reduce damage of those, you can pretty much just make that person self destroy right away since it won't do anything

If you keep the idea that sealclubbing depends exclusively on the weapon PS, just remember that is easier to sealclub with special and epic weapons than with some legendaries


I'm going to be honest here, people bashes devs a lot, but when it comes to ideas about fixing the game, they are really really on the same lines as theirs.. "Just punish players" "just take the easiest less effort way"


Why not... Ready yourself, this may shock you... Why not.. Ready?.. Why not.... Give players a real reason to go higher in ps, where they should according to their builds?

Ready for what? Canons? 2 epic canon on a frame with white wheels and a grawl cab at the back protected by the 2 canons at the front thats can backward turn faster than I can go arround him because at 6k ps I don't have an epic engine and get shred?

Ready for 3 wasp slapped on sideways overs with only a cab on it?

Ready for 4 epic saw chains slapped on a frame with only a cab at the back and maybe a white reactor?

Ready for.... I can continue on and on...

Be real.... my vehicules belong where they should modules/weapons included yet if I strip down everything except pure vehicule part It goes down to 3 / 4k adding weapons/modules push it to 6k.

So no I won't "ready" to join the seal club just because the game want me to do it. I prefer to quit.

I play this game to build a battle car.. not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ frame with some epic parts on it which looks like a piece of ♥♥♥♥ you made in a few minutes.

I think you missunderstood what I meant by the "Ready?" thing..

What I meant is to stop thinking like the devs, and solve everything by punishing players, and start thinking like a player, and solve things while making the game better at the same time, currently, if you have a set of relic weapons, the only reason to not bring them to low PS is morality, until that changes, and there is a real reason to go higher, sealclubbing simply won't be solved in any way

[AlexKidd62[FR]]

Oprindeligt skrevet af xCrossFaith:

Oprindeligt skrevet af AlexKidd62FR:

Ready for what? Canons? 2 epic canon on a frame with white wheels and a grawl cab at the back protected by the 2 canons at the front thats can backward turn faster than I can go arround him because at 6k ps I don't have an epic engine and get shred?

Ready for 3 wasp slapped on sideways overs with only a cab on it?

Ready for 4 epic saw chains slapped on a frame with only a cab at the back and maybe a white reactor?

Ready for.... I can continue on and on...

Be real.... my vehicules belong where they should modules/weapons included yet if I strip down everything except pure vehicule part It goes down to 3 / 4k adding weapons/modules push it to 6k.

So no I won't "ready" to join the seal club just because the game want me to do it. I prefer to quit.

I play this game to build a battle car.. not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ frame with some epic parts on it which looks like a piece of ♥♥♥♥ you made in a few minutes.

I think you missunderstood what I meant by the "Ready?" thing..

What I meant is to stop thinking like the devs, and solve everything by punishing players, and start thinking like a player, and solve things while making the game better at the same time, currently, if you have a set of relic weapons, the only reason to not bring them to low PS is morality, until that changes, and there is a real reason to go higher, sealclubbing simply won't be solved in any way

Alright sorry for being a bit rude. :)

[Rebo_Roadie]

Whining The Cancer of CROSSOUT. #jUSTSAYING