Market is a joke.

[Patriot03]

You have to pay in order to craft Items from the other factions. Otherwise you'll have to craft Van bodies and sell them for 2 coins ONLY when there is a market demand. I have no idea how long it would take for someone to be able to get 25 coins from doing such, but max I could sell out of EVERYTHING I can craft at level 10 was 4 items and the Market was saturated.

Not to mention the hundreds of Scrap I spent on crafting all this stuff I thought I could automatically sell.

$5 to craft 5 items from a faction.

[Patriot03]

I've spent years of my life playing games like WOT and Warthunder, have likely spent over $1,000 on War Gaming, but most of that time was without any gold or Premium on my account and I was still able to progress in the game, even if it was slower.

But this, this is simply ridiculous. No one could physically make a lousy 25 coins(Minimum to craft 5 items!!!!) when you have 4 items in demand on a daily basis that usually don't sell for more than .2 "coin", it's absurd. Just let players SCRAP them automatically and give us the coin, the grind just to get the rank is bad enough but I didn't see anything until I discovered how awful the Market system is... With these prices, making the decision to invest more of my time into this game (Which would 100% require money if I wan't any faction pieces) is dangerous with how expensive it is.

Like, to get a number of items in this would be a week or a month of Premium in WOT! The Value isn't compelling but they've made me play the game for several hours now before you discover the fact that paying to progress is essentially the only way to do it once you hit Level 10.

[Patriot03]

You put 12 hours into the game to find out that now the only way to keep playing would be to spend $5 every time you feel like crafting something.

It's likely that I won't continue to play due to how EXPENSIVE this game is at that rate, which would mean I really wasted those 12 hours.. Was fun until the first moment you get access to new factions they have DIFFERENT rules to how the First one worked, and you have to pay in order to craft.

And the idea that you can get the Premium Currency from the market is simply not a reality when you can fill ALL demands and make 3 coins after using maybe 1000 scrap...

I wish the reviews would mention the switch and bait that happens after level 10..

[Patriot03]

PS: Based on what I'm reading, this game gets EXPENSIVE fast, way beyond the petty 5$ I'm complaining about. Apparently there are arts that are $500 USD which simply can't be earned by regularly playing the game even IF the Market was reasonable. - Which it isn't, you'll make 3 coins off 12 hours work and drain yourself of scrap... Some items are 30,000 coins.

Do that math. Only way to get that item would be to spend $500. All that so you can shoot at BOTS posing as real players..

[Exilyth]

Items of higher rarity sell for more. Have you tried keeping your resources (except for what needs to be sold to pay for the workbench), crafting a rare and selling that for much more than a basic item?

[[BLA]Unmortal]

I think this Patriot03 guy doesnt understand why a item is 30.000 coins+ thats a relic type weapons only way to get it is true effort a lot of it.

im currently crafting towards one on long term but the market is open to price drops price highs and current changes in the weaponry.

i dont know how much you played the game for but ive been sinking ours into it and finding ways to make my coins and to get my workbenchs rent.

but yes ive bought some pack but only on sale.
i dont look at the time that things take me.

what i do know is that i can save up or craft myself upwards to a relic type weapon it sadly takes a lot of time.

but there more ways then pulling youre wallet to make a coin in the game and i dont know if you looked at youre dailys ingame you always can easly get done in 1 day.

10 dailys a day are given with scrap. and they also have a adventure mode you can grind out for the story with some freinds.

Patriot03 youre just a guy who looks at something and then runs the ather way and ive seen numberous posts with youre angery reaction to the games grind.

but i bet you played to little to see the whole game.
also to reduce the grind for players they even gave us more scrap to be earned and more badges to trade for resources.

and ive been on and off in this game since closed beta.
it was HELL WORSE in closed beta with relic weapons at 65K+- and only a bare 1% of people used them. + the whole market was crooked back then with prices that didnt make any sense.

there have been many improvements to the game its sad that you dont know before and afther the serten time periods i mean.

[membrain13]

I would suggest that you sell your scrap metal rather than crafting with it. 100 scrap metal will sell for about 3.4 coins right now. Not counting the daily challenges, you can earn 100 scrap with 4 to 6 pvp matches. I wouldn't bother with crafting unless you specifically want something or know that you can make a profit with a specific item. A lot of stuff you can buy cheaper than you can make.

Not denying the grind of the game! White stuff is easy to make, blue stuff doesn't take much time. Beyond that things get more serious. Once you have a few coins you can make more coins just by buying and selling stuff. It's a bit of a gamble and not very fun, unless you are in to that type of thing.

[DivineEvil]

Market prices are set by players.

You can sell anything you earn. Whether you want to craft items or earn coins and how to do
either is up to you. You can sort items and resources you have by buy price and see what's sold for more. Then correlate it with the items necessary to craft them.

If you know how to cooperate with your team and stay alive, you can earn a lot of coins by farming fuel.

Use Crossoutdb.com - its an online resource, that tracks the market dynamics in real-time. That will help you make sense of what might be profitable.

[zerkinmelee]

Do story mode, make a car able to raid easy and farm copper. Sell copper. Do your challenges and you will get a blue container to sell for roughly 30 coins every week from that challenge. The copper sells for around 10-12 coins per 1k. Not much at first but getting to 4k and leviathan raiding is the way to earn coins as a free player. Getting to wire battlegrounds is the best farming but gearing up to be effective is a challenge. I restate selling the blue challenge crate every week, especially the first one. The RNG isnt the best for getting stuff you want. Leviathan raiding uses your fuel so be sure to equip a car with a fuel barrel early, and then fuel tank.

[Patriot03]

I'm not concerned over the price of items in the terms of buying them, it's that at level 10 there isn't anything you can sell in terms of items you can craft that could ever get you the 25 coins needed to craft your first faction weapon.

There simply isn't market demand, at all. No one is buying any of those items.

Now, I have no idea about selling Fuel/Copper, that might be feasible but as for making the money required off of selling items that seems objectively impossible. I played for 12 hours and at best I made 8 coins off the market....

[Patriot03]

Originally posted by membrain13:

I would suggest that you sell your scrap metal rather than crafting with it. 100 scrap metal will sell for about 3.4 coins right now. Not counting the daily challenges, you can earn 100 scrap with 4 to 6 pvp matches. I wouldn't bother with crafting unless you specifically want something or know that you can make a profit with a specific item. A lot of stuff you can buy cheaper than you can make.

Not denying the grind of the game! White stuff is easy to make, blue stuff doesn't take much time. Beyond that things get more serious. Once you have a few coins you can make more coins just by buying and selling stuff. It's a bit of a gamble and not very fun, unless you are in to that type of thing.

That sounds promising, but does the market always buy Scrap metal? Because it isn't worth it if at best I can supply 200 scrap and then have to wait before someone wants to buy.

[Patriot03]

Originally posted by Exilyth:

Items of higher rarity sell for more. Have you tried keeping your resources (except for what needs to be sold to pay for the workbench), crafting a rare and selling that for much more than a basic item?

Doesn't sound like a bad idea, but in order to craft my first Faction items, the lowest level ones, I'll have to spend $5 USD. Unless selling FUEL/Copper/Scrap directly is reliable.

[membrain13]

I have never had issue selling fuel, copper, or scrap. Of course I sell what I'm not planning on using as soon as I get it. Trying to sell larger quantities is probably more difficult and the market is always changing but scrap is required to craft everything.

4 to 6 pvp matches will earn you 100 scrap win or lose, so long as you earn at least 40 points. It will take quite a few of these to earn the needed 25 coins. A fuel barrel and/or tank will speed up the process. Spend money to save yourself some time if you want, but it is by no means a "have to" thing for basic crafting.

[Exilyth]

Talking about fuel - the basic fuel barrel and the blue fuel tank stack for 15 fuel on a win (if you survive with such explosives strapped to the vehicle).

[Patriot03]

How do you sell Fuel?

[membrain13]

You cannot sell the free daily fuel. If you use a fuel barrel and/or fuel tank you will earn fuel provide you win, survive, and keep your barrel/tank intact. This will be in your inventory. Click on it to sell.