So how bad is it?

[Seb]

Game looks fun, but lots of reviews complain that its complete p2w.

[Metal]

Check my rewiev and decide yourself. Ultra grind, btw.

[xCrossFaith]

Those reviews are from lazy players that want everything unlocked and given to them since day 1

With about 450 hours or experience here (not trying to sound like a por or anything. just stating that I have a long time here XD) I think I could give you a pretty real review

First, the game has it's flaws, like every other out there, but nothing that's really gam breaking

Second, the game has a HUGE and painful learning curve, so if you start as a new player after getting out of the tutorial and practice matches with bots you are going to get raped left and right, I suggest that you avoid the majority of this community way of thinking, that is something like "wtf, that killed me, is op, pls nerf" and instead try to learn how he killed you, what weapons was using, how much armor your build has etc.

This game depends a lot on your playstyle and the way you build things, you will never be able to build something that excels in every situation. since literally everything in the game has a counter, you have to try to find you sweet spot

Those points were just a reaaaaally basic starting tips XD Now with the p2w topic..

It's not, you can pay to get things faster, yes, but that doesn't make you win if you are a total inept, it's pay to progress at most, which at first can feel really slow, but once you get all faction to level 5-10 and start to get used to the sell and buy market think you'll be fine

Anyway the game is free and it's not very big in size, so you can give it a try and see by yourself if you like it ^^

[ShadZep]

People who say “P2W” are just lazy snobs thinking they can get everything they want. Ignore those people

[V3rgi1]

I can second Cocaine's Review.

Look for Tipps on how to make coins (theres Threads) and it ont be that much of a grind (as soon as you can rent a blue workbench it goes faster)
Try to get the weapons needed in seasons so you can complete them and get more blue / purple stuff.

But most important not Pay2Win // Its Pay2Progress.

[I gurgle for Nurgle]

Originally posted by Seb:

Game looks fun, but lots of reviews complain that its complete p2w.

Not p2w but not worth it. It's game of abuses right now. Maybe year later, after devs finally figure out how to make a decent shooter/action multiplayer game.

[Chopper]

Originally posted by Seb:

Game looks fun, but lots of reviews complain that its complete p2w.

And if you need some starting pointers, ask nicely, some players here will help

[aardvarkpepper]

Technically it's pay-to-advance.

Personally, I could kindaaa see seal-clubbing (where veteran players farm new players that don't have the part access or gear to compete) but the clincher for me is the developers consider this game very much in beta (it's announced that it's beta and everything).

So what does that mean? It means they feel free to make big changes, like nerfing epic or scarcer equipment (which is a significant investment) without compensating players. Sure, players can sell stuff on market (though the prices plunge if players consider an item was harshly nerfed). But it's still a loss, a loss which does not consider that a player either spent real money or considerably grind time to get said nerfed equipment.

Sooo I'm kinda like hey.

If you play and you don't mind getting killed by enemies with harvesters, or synthesis, or whatever OP BS weapon - hey, then great, it's "about the journey" with you, and after that vehicle you put a couple hundred hours into building gets nerfed and isn't much use for its originally intended purpose any more, you won't care, you'll just start building a new one. If that's the case, then this game is for you

if it's NOT about the journey, if it's about the winning for you, if it's about building a long-term investment, bla bla . . .

[General T.Montana Tropic Thunder]

IMHO the game has a long grind phase, but it can be well worthwile to go through that grinding phase to reap the later equipment ( allowance ) and personal play skill knowledge benefits

Also the game has lots of Carmageddon & GTA vehicle destruction comedy situations between players as it can be total mayhem fun, with several vehicles topping on to each other.

[anton.suslyaev]

This game about making cool cars. But you need to grind for parts for this cars. You can get 1 orange part per month full of grind. May be a little more.
And great balance ofcourse. Drons, howers, destroy.

[[BLUE ARMY]-Skitz]

for a free game graphically amazing simple menu fanttastic gameplay garage is lego for bigger boys an finally highly addictive ;)

[Al Gore]

The noobs shouting p2w are just scrubs that are unwilling to spend $200 to win consistantly.

[☠ ☠]

Hello, as the game is free, I advise to test it because that does not cost anything. And after

joining the legions of people who cry or not on the forums ;)

f2p = free to pay , not forced , it is possible to support the developers, and to go more quickly in its evolution...

I must well acknowledge that in the actual position, the game become unplayable, therefore with a trend with p2w..

(sorry gogole trad.^^)

[grazr]

The game is a huge grind and the pay element is largely to let you skip that grind, but because the game isn't balanced yet you can use the pay element to skip to the superior content and "farm" other players with it. The game isn't supposed to be P2W, but because of this, it is.

The grind element is exacerbated by the above average losses you'll experience to these unbalanced weapons unless you invest money to counter them with the same strong weapons. Previously this included Drones, Sidekicks, Caucasus, but recent patches have addressed these balances so the game climate is more mild right now.

The people saying it's not P2W are usually the very players using these builds, or players who fought through those builds and expect everyone else to do the same "otherwise it's not fair" or people who just don't understand how a game can be P2W without intending to be. The whole "pay to progress" thing is true, but because of the imbalances there are obvious advantages to skipping the initial grind element where you're at a balance disadvantage and pay for content to match other the players advantages.

The last patch or two were huge steps forward in the balancing of problematic weapons and the exploitation of frame builds. But other components still offer massive advantages. The new hover builds (epic tier wheels) are an issue and sneaking higher tier weapons into lower tier games by forgoing the cost of armour parts has made the 88 Executioner cannon extremely meta in medium tier games.

[PurdooSix]

The game has nice balance of player skill(power) and gear power. Better gear doesn't make you so much better, as you are then matched agains players with also that good gear. I like how the MM is built around the concept of power level.

The game engine is really well done as my computer is about 6 years old midrange gaming rig and I'm getting stable 60 FPS.

[~Ormagodon~]

Never spent a dime on this game and still really enjoy it, have been playing over two years now with CBT and CB, bit of a grind but its to be expected from a f2p MMO.