Not being able to earn scrap is stupid

[bin]

Being a new player and scrap being a primary coin making resource, having this completely taken away feels really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid, is there actually a reason behind this or is it just the devs trying to grab more money from us?

[Sarkin]

fuel makes more coinage and has no limit. I don't think wires, or electronics have limits either. but i do agree limiting players is always stupid unless its for the sake of balance but this is just so that people pay in to get what they want. its there as a detriment to free play.

[Ryuu]

Originally posted by Kumorigachi:

I don't think wires, or electronics have limits either.

They do. You can sell them if you want to buy more scrap.

Copper and fuel have no limits.

[Chopper]

Originally posted by Ryuu:

Originally posted by Kumorigachi:

I don't think wires, or electronics have limits either.

They do. You can sell them if you want to buy more scrap.

Copper and fuel have no limits.

They do, wires cap at 2450 and electronics cap at 1225 per week

[Zarly]

they do this to give scrap, wires, electronics value and what they go into for crafting. If they remove the cap then the market will crash

[Chopper]

Originally posted by Milky Tea:

Being a new player and scrap being a primary coin making resource, having this completely taken away feels really ♥♥♥♥ing stupid, is there actually a reason behind this or is it just the devs trying to grab more money from us?

On the note of undermind the game.

A new player I took on yesterday, for 1 day's gaming. He can deal with all the so call OP builds, weapon with just white weapons. He end the day with 3 blue weapons, almost cap his weekly capped of scraps, lots wires and 600+ fuels. That is with out to buy anything. Learn to understand "how to" before you judge.

[Sarkin]

Originally posted by Chopper:

Originally posted by Milky Tea:

Being a new player and scrap being a primary coin making resource, having this completely taken away feels really ♥♥♥♥ing stupid, is there actually a reason behind this or is it just the devs trying to grab more money from us?

On the note of undermind the game.

A new player I took on yesterday, for 1 day's gaming. He can deal with all the so call OP builds, weapon with just white weapons. He end the day with 3 blue weapons, almost cap his weekly capped of scraps, lots wires and 600+ fuels. That is with out to buy anything. Learn to understand "how to" before you judge.

prove it.

600 fuel.

at 15 fuel at a time at best - which requires a blue barrel.

thats a minimum of 40 rounds - winning without a single loss or death.

thats a minimum of 3 hours .

scraps the cap is 2,800. i think.

at 10-15 scrap at a time thats atleast 9 hours of play. again mostly without a loss.

however wires. requires a minimum of lvl 10 , and 3kPS

so...

with this XP system unles you win every single round with the MVP award yeah....not likely to occur in one day .

man your friend must be the best crossout player of all time he managed to play 24 hours , max out every resource and in over 1,000 rounds didn't lose or die once.

[Chopper]

Originally posted by Kumorigachi:

Originally posted by Chopper:

On the note of undermind the game.

A new player I took on yesterday, for 1 day's gaming. He can deal with all the so call OP builds, weapon with just white weapons. He end the day with 3 blue weapons, almost cap his weekly capped of scraps, lots wires and 600+ fuels. That is with out to buy anything. Learn to understand "how to" before you judge.

prove it.

600 fuel.

at 15 fuel at a time at best - which requires a blue barrel.

thats a minimum of 40 rounds - winning without a single loss or death.

thats a minimum of 3 hours .

scraps the cap is 2,800. i think.

at 10-15 scrap at a time thats atleast 9 hours of play. again mostly without a loss.

however wires. requires a minimum of lvl 10 , and 3kPS

so...

with this XP system unles you win every single round with the MVP award yeah....not likely to occur in one day .

man your friend must be the best crossout player of all time he managed to play 24 hours , max out every resource and in over 1,000 rounds didn't lose or die once.

If he does come to say someting later....

All I can say is that he win most his games, and when we play in group, most our game end between 2 -3 mins. Once we have a build, we keep on, so you'll find there are lots games in 1 hour. He didn't have the large fuel barrel at first.

I have no idea how many hours he played, I stop from time to time. Me and few friends just given him some ideas about build, where to fight, whom to fight and when to fight. Adding how to farm BOTs in raids. Thats all.

If you read better, I have not said he max out every resources, nor you need to be MVP player every game. You get fuel, white item and scraps in a winning game and alive. Wires for every game win or lose. 400% on rep after the day's reset. So its not so bad really.


On the note of prove it....hummm I wonder how?

I am not the account holder, I can't screenshot for you.
Why I need to prove for what I said more then what you said anyway??
You don't like the game and the systeam, do someting else. I said you are worng about the game resurce systeam.
Look at the topic " Not being able to earn scrap is stupid", I am saing it is not true. I am saying if you are unable to earn scrap, it is not because the game or the systeam is stupid. I am saying after some game time and you are still unable to earn scrap, then you are doing it wrong, or the game is not for you.
Yeah, I get it, the game is hard!!

[Sarkin]

Originally posted by Chopper:

Originally posted by Kumorigachi:

prove it.

600 fuel.

at 15 fuel at a time at best - which requires a blue barrel.

thats a minimum of 40 rounds - winning without a single loss or death.

thats a minimum of 3 hours .

scraps the cap is 2,800. i think.

at 10-15 scrap at a time thats atleast 9 hours of play. again mostly without a loss.

however wires. requires a minimum of lvl 10 , and 3kPS

so...

with this XP system unles you win every single round with the MVP award yeah....not likely to occur in one day .

man your friend must be the best crossout player of all time he managed to play 24 hours , max out every resource and in over 1,000 rounds didn't lose or die once.

If he does come to say someting later....

All I can say is that he win most his games, and when we play in group, most our game end between 2 -3 mins. Once we have a build, we keep on, so you'll find there are lots games in 1 hour. He didn't have the large fuel barrel at first.

I have no idea how many hours he played, I stop from time to time. Me and few friends just given him some ideas about build, where to fight, whom to fight and when to fight. Adding how to farm BOTs in raids. Thats all.

If you read better, I have not said he max out every resources, nor you need to be MVP player every game. You get fuel, white item and scraps in a winning game and alive. Wires for every game win or lose. 400% on rep after the day's reset. So its not so bad really.


On the note of prove it....hummm I wonder how?

I am not the account holder, I can't screenshot for you.
Why I need to prove for what I said more then what you said anyway??
You don't like the game and the systeam, do someting else. I said you are worng about the game resurce systeam.
Look at the topic " Not being able to earn scrap is stupid", I am saing it is not true. I am saying if you are unable to earn scrap, it is not because the game or the systeam is stupid. I am saying after some game time and you are still unable to earn scrap, then you are doing it wrong, or the game is not for you.
Yeah, I get it, the game is hard!!

You said he reached the caps.

you are the one making claims about your friend doing all of this. if you have no proof . then its not relavent.

and that he did all of this in a single day.

[bin]

Originally posted by Chopper:

Originally posted by Milky Tea:

Being a new player and scrap being a primary coin making resource, having this completely taken away feels really ♥♥♥♥ing stupid, is there actually a reason behind this or is it just the devs trying to grab more money from us?

On the note of undermind the game.

A new player I took on yesterday, for 1 day's gaming. He can deal with all the so call OP builds, weapon with just white weapons. He end the day with 3 blue weapons, almost cap his weekly capped of scraps, lots wires and 600+ fuels. That is with out to buy anything. Learn to understand "how to" before you judge.

I also reached the scrap cap in my first 10-12 hours of playing the game, i earned a similar amount of fuel however I sold all of it and I'd say i had around 50 wires by the time I stopped playing, so what this new player achieved really ain't that hard. Add a couple hours on and I now sit at 4 rare weapons however the problem is I'll be sitting at 4 rare weapons for the next 3 days because for some reason the devs want to limit my progression. Imo it's just dumb.

[Sarkin]

Originally posted by Milky Tea:

Originally posted by Chopper:

On the note of undermind the game.

A new player I took on yesterday, for 1 day's gaming. He can deal with all the so call OP builds, weapon with just white weapons. He end the day with 3 blue weapons, almost cap his weekly capped of scraps, lots wires and 600+ fuels. That is with out to buy anything. Learn to understand "how to" before you judge.

I also reached the scrap cap in my first 10-12 hours of playing the game, i earned a similar amount of fuel however I sold all of it and I'd say i had around 50 wires by the time I stopped playing, so what this new player achieved really ain't that hard. Add a couple hours on and I now sit at 4 rare weapons however the problem is I'll be sitting at 4 rare weapons for the next 3 days because for some reason the devs want to limit my progression. Imo it's just dumb.

a minimum of 12 rounds an hour , thats 120 scrap an hour(at 10 scrap each round just for the sake of simplicity.). the limit is 2,800(or around that.)

thats a minimum of 23 hours.

as for fuel..

at 15 points of fuel a round at best.

people must have infinite amounts of free time. and must never stop to eat , drink, or use the bathroom.

man life must be grand without those annoyances.

[bin]

Originally posted by Kumorigachi:

Originally posted by Milky Tea:

I also reached the scrap cap in my first 10-12 hours of playing the game, i earned a similar amount of fuel however I sold all of it and I'd say i had around 50 wires by the time I stopped playing, so what this new player achieved really ain't that hard. Add a couple hours on and I now sit at 4 rare weapons however the problem is I'll be sitting at 4 rare weapons for the next 3 days because for some reason the devs want to limit my progression. Imo it's just dumb.

a minimum of 12 rounds an hour , thats 120 scrap an hour(at 10 scrap each round just for the sake of simplicity.). the limit is 2,800(or around that.)

thats a minimum of 23 hours.

as for fuel..

at 15 points of fuel a round at best.

people must have infinite amounts of free time. and must never stop to eat , drink, or use the bathroom.

man life must be grand without those annoyances.

Yo idk what my rates were but I know I at least hit the scrap limit before the 14 hours a week crate thing however let's back up and show some real stats:

15-19 scrap a game -15 for loss -19 for win,
If I lose a game, the game lasts about a minutes and a half to 2 minutes,
If I win a game, it's the same times just the other way around,
I'd say less than 10 of my overall games actually hit the 3 minute mark,
I can't be bothered to do the math but if you want to then be my guest.

Bottom line is yes, it's possible.

[Fuzzy466]

Originally posted by Chopper:

On the note of undermind the game.

A new player I took on yesterday, for 1 day's gaming. He can deal with all the so call OP builds, weapon with just white weapons. He end the day with 3 blue weapons, almost cap his weekly capped of scraps, lots wires and 600+ fuels. That is with out to buy anything. Learn to understand "how to" before you judge.

To earn that much fuel from starting the game is quiet frankly unlikely,

Standard fuel tank only hold 5 fuel and having multiple do not stack, so the only way to increase fuel is to install a Blue fuel tank. This won't be hard but the player won't have enough C (credits) to rent a building slot.

So with this in mind you would have to Win and stay alive in 120 matches.

You won't be able to farm wire/electronics until pwr score is over 3000 + 4000 respectively and you won't be able to get to these levels until reach min. of Lvl 10 standard faction.

So all I in I would have to say your statement read like horse piss.

[Chopper]

Originally posted by Milky Tea:

Originally posted by Chopper:

On the note of undermind the game.

A new player I took on yesterday, for 1 day's gaming. He can deal with all the so call OP builds, weapon with just white weapons. He end the day with 3 blue weapons, almost cap his weekly capped of scraps, lots wires and 600+ fuels. That is with out to buy anything. Learn to understand "how to" before you judge.

I also reached the scrap cap in my first 10-12 hours of playing the game, i earned a similar amount of fuel however I sold all of it and I'd say i had around 50 wires by the time I stopped playing, so what this new player achieved really ain't that hard. Add a couple hours on and I now sit at 4 rare weapons however the problem is I'll be sitting at 4 rare weapons for the next 3 days because for some reason the devs want to limit my progression. Imo it's just dumb.

Ok, I think they try to stop players to level too fast. When players have no goal, then they just play other games. At least now you have to wait for the next few days.

To players can't do the maths!! 1000 scraps sell at about 60 to 65, a few hours will get you that. Use coins to buy a blue fuel tank. Now you can mount both on the car. If you win and be alive(ALIVE) after a battle. 15 fuel per game and scraps and a white item. What so hard to do that? Sell all you can to buy blue weapon/s. Once you hit the weekly cap of 2800 scraps, go on to a 3K + ( not too high, just over 3K) and get wires, that you will get win or lose. If however, you want to play the hero and charging in, or be a snipper by sitting at the side of the map. Great, because it is fun and in the case of being a snipper meant you be alive at the end. It is your chose, but I like my game time to gain as fast and as much as I can.

Anyway that is all BS to some, and none should even read and think, just do what you do....more heros and snippers are welcome.

[Sarkin]

Originally posted by Chopper:

Originally posted by Milky Tea:

I also reached the scrap cap in my first 10-12 hours of playing the game, i earned a similar amount of fuel however I sold all of it and I'd say i had around 50 wires by the time I stopped playing, so what this new player achieved really ain't that hard. Add a couple hours on and I now sit at 4 rare weapons however the problem is I'll be sitting at 4 rare weapons for the next 3 days because for some reason the devs want to limit my progression. Imo it's just dumb.

Ok, I think they try to stop players to level too fast. When players have no goal, then they just play other games. At least now you have to wait for the next few days.

To players can't do the maths!! 1000 scraps sell at about 60 to 65, a few hours will get you that. Use coins to buy a blue fuel tank. Now you can mount both on the car. If you win and be alive(ALIVE) after a battle. 15 fuel per game and scraps and a white item. What so hard to do that? Sell all you can to buy blue weapon/s. Once you hit the weekly cap of 2800 scraps, go on to a 3K + ( not too high, just over 3K) and get wires, that you will get win or lose. If however, you want to play the hero and charging in, or be a snipper by sitting at the side of the map. Great, because it is fun and in the case of being a snipper meant you be alive at the end. It is your chose, but I like my game time to gain as fast and as much as I can.

Anyway that is all BS to some, and none should even read and think, just do what you do....more heros and snippers are welcome.

1,000 scraps in a day at 10 scraps at a time. 60 scraps an hour.

10 hours , is 600 scraps so you'd have to play atleast 15 hours to reach 1,000 scrap.

fuel. you only get if you win that means you had to win every single match you were in. no matter how well the enemy team did, or how many it had living cause its highly unlikely that you're going to win 20 matches in a row , let alone 120.

you definitely aren't going to do that on your first day. given you have to stop every couple of levels to add items to your car.

[Fuzzy466]

Originally posted by Chopper:

Ok, I think they try to stop players to level too fast. When players have no goal, then they just play other games. At least now you have to wait for the next few days.

To players can't do the maths!! 1000 scraps sell at about 60 to 65, a few hours will get you that. Use coins to buy a blue fuel tank. Now you can mount both on the car. If you win and be alive(ALIVE) after a battle. 15 fuel per game and scraps and a white item. What so hard to do that? Sell all you can to buy blue weapon/s. Once you hit the weekly cap of 2800 scraps, go on to a 3K + ( not too high, just over 3K) and get wires, that you will get win or lose. If however, you want to play the hero and charging in, or be a snipper by sitting at the side of the map. Great, because it is fun and in the case of being a snipper meant you be alive at the end. It is your chose, but I like my game time to gain as fast and as much as I can.

Anyway that is all BS to some, and none should even read and think, just do what you do....more heros and snippers are welcome.

Problem is when you first made your original post you directly referred to "new player", not someone who has past level 10.

Interesting that you now want the "new player" to sell scrap to buy something despite saying that he doesn't have to buy anything.

You've contradicted nearly all your statements you made in your first post.

Which brings me full circle back to my own comment you're talkin horse ****.