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Sensokaku 2017 年 8 月 13 日 下午 11:28
I cannot enjoy this game with unfair matchmaking
It's worse then world of tanks :/
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grazr 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 5:59 
Stats alone will only get you so far, Rapture. LM's might have a higher base DPS, but they suffer from attrition. Last thing i would do going into this game is assume my 5-6 LM's will be up long enough to tickle someone for more than a couple pieces of light armour. Spitfire's are great DPS, assuming you can even bring them to bare to begin with. This isn't a shooting range.

引用自 Rapture
引用自 DrakonisAUTSTYRIA
Do something about the Matchmakingbalance! Its ♥♥♥♥♥♥ UP!
Its matches teams with same PS againts each other, what is problem here ?

The problem is that the PS's don't accurately represent the current components actual practical value. Which the Developers acknowledged in their last major announcement no less.
最後修改者:grazr; 2017 年 8 月 15 日 下午 6:07
Macdallan 2017 年 8 月 17 日 下午 4:05 
The game certainly needs better balance, and the gameplay right now is mediocre at best. I don't hate it, but it could be a lot better, and I don't like the pay to win feel of the game. Plus - what's with the "fuel" cost to run the raids? PvE costs currency of some sort, but PVP you can do forever for nothing? No thanks. It's like those stupid casual games that have "energy" that replenishes every 24 hours, but you can BUY it so you can keep playing. I'll keep my money, thanks.

Anyway, as for balance - I recently had one match where I had THREE machine guns blown off of my truck, a tire, and and one of my two "knives" all within about 1/2 second, or maybe less. That's unlikely to occur when only two enemies are shooting at you from long range with low-end machine guns. I could understand one or two weapons being damaged, but not all four knocked completely off my truck at practically the same time. I don't see how that's fun, or balanced. Also when having a tire or two blown off - I have a car jack - why can't I spend 2 minutes installing spares? Obviously this is a raid issue, once you have both tires blown off, you're useless. Either let other vehicles tow you with tow cables, ropes, chains or a harpoon or implement the option to carry spare parts/tires and do (shoddy, obviously) field repairs.

You could do so much with this game concept, don't let it just be a poor vehicle based FPS.
BrandedByFire 2017 年 8 月 17 日 下午 4:12 
引用自 Hellbunny88
the matchmaker will join you with players around the same PS as your vehicle... dont build a high PS and your enemies wont be so hard.
This isn't true at all, me and a friend have our current builds around 5200 and 5300. We are often put up against players of 8k-10k and just get destroyed. The match making system needs a lot of work.
Ryuu 2017 年 8 月 18 日 上午 3:16 
引用自 Jackyl
Totally agree and nice ideas! :claptrap:

Sometimes me and my friend wonder how anyone can one hit kill us with rockets or artillery if we have 100% health and about 1000 hit points!? That shouldn`t be able too!
That probably means you have badly placed and poorly protected explosive parts. This and hidden game mechanics, it's not stated anywhere in the game that frames can propagate damage over them. So when i ram people with full speed on my 13 ton massive frame-goblin-passive-melee build with light engine - they sometimes instantly blow up because their fuel barrels get damaged through the frame. That's why sometimes you want to attach something to frame and then to barrels instead - in worst case they'll just harmlessly dezintegrate because of losing pathway to the cabin instead of exploding.

Game has enough of hidden mechanics and know-how.
Ryuu 2017 年 8 月 18 日 上午 3:58 
Nope, i simply explained possible reasons why that could happen to unexperienced players. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

引用自 Jackyl
I had no barrel or something else on my car. I was hit in my front (not the cabin).
There is a long front and then the cabin comes. I could understand if my front is blown off but not my whole car. Thats a really cheap excuse by you.
Hard to say anything else without screenshots or videos or seeing your build on Exhibition. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

To the hidden game mechanics: You mean there are glitches that cause those problems - so then we need to fix that!
No, those are intended mechanics(frame propagating damage for example) but i would also like to know what they are not explained in the game and some stats on items are also not shown :ooh:

There are however exploits not intended by developers - like those wedge builds and like which most likely needs to be dealt with.

Don't get so salty about being pwned. If you want progress - make a suggestion on official game forum instead, Steam hub is only read by moderators occassionally and mostly is used for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. No progress here.
Macdallan 2017 年 8 月 19 日 上午 9:06 
I went into a game earlier with about 700 ps. There were people with 1700+. That's a pretty big difference for beginners. I also ran into some 2000+ when I was sitting around 1000. I think it needs to be balanced a tad more. I understand it may roughly match an entire team's PS, but someone with 2k when you're running 900 isn't much fun even if you stick with your team mates. A couple good hits from a bigger weapon - you're done. Also it seems too easy to have your weapons and other gear knocked off. Isn't it welded and bolted to the vehicle in a semi-secure manner? Things go flying like there's nothing but duct tape and a prayer holding the vehicle together.

引用自 Ryuu
引用自 Jackyl
Totally agree and nice ideas! :claptrap:

Sometimes me and my friend wonder how anyone can one hit kill us with rockets or artillery if we have 100% health and about 1000 hit points!? That shouldn`t be able too!
That probably means you have badly placed and poorly protected explosive parts. This and hidden game mechanics, it's not stated anywhere in the game that frames can propagate damage over them. So when i ram people with full speed on my 13 ton massive frame-goblin-passive-melee build with light engine - they sometimes instantly blow up because their fuel barrels get damaged through the frame. That's why sometimes you want to attach something to frame and then to barrels instead - in worst case they'll just harmlessly dezintegrate because of losing pathway to the cabin instead of exploding.

Game has enough of hidden mechanics and know-how.

Thanks, glad you like some of my ideas.

I also appreciate the explanation. I didn't know about the frame causing other things to be damaged when it's directly linked to something. That does somewhat explain how I can get killed easily or things break, or fall off, quickly sometimes, especialy if I have a fuel barrel kicking around. I'll make sure to place weapons and other things on something other than the frame from now on.

p.s. Jackyl - simmer down a notch. Ryuu is just trying to explain things.
最後修改者:Macdallan; 2017 年 8 月 19 日 上午 9:13
Ryuu 2017 年 8 月 19 日 上午 9:53 
引用自 Ryuu
I'll make sure to place weapons and other things on something other than the frame from now on.
It's best to place your weapons on:
1) Cabin, you won't lose it until you die.
2) Shot-through parts(read description, not every grill has this property). They survive longer under fire(but very vulnerable to melee though) so it's likely your weapon would get blown off earlier. Preferebly they should be attached directly to cabin themselves. Gun mounts are just awesome for that, but not gun tower. And turn them upside down to have a bigger area to place guns, my Leviathan has 80% of its weapons placed on just two Gun mounts(you can't get more alas).
3) Frame is also fine if it's not highly exposed for ramming and shooting.
In other cases try to place it on most different parts as you can.

You're a good listener, so i also suggest reading nice tips from devs themselves:
https://crossout.net/en/diary/19/#/
https://crossout.net/en/diary/20/#/
https://crossout.net/en/diary/21/#/
最後修改者:Ryuu; 2017 年 8 月 19 日 上午 9:53
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