Mods to beef up the Custom Character creator?

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Basically new to the 2kxx series, was just wondering if there are any mods to make the character creator more versatile - more extreme body morphing, wearing capes etc. into the ring, wider height differences... You get the idea. I want to make some real mutants and watch them beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of each other.
Edit: Doesn't seem to be much out there, so I'll just use the game as is. Also, interesting discussion appears to have exploded out of this regarding whether or not this sort of thing "should be allowed". I'd like to state my innocence - I only wanted a game in which I could make characters and see them fight (it's hilarious to watch with friends), and WWE 2k16 looked like a cool game to do it with. That's it from my end.

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Alter the morphing tools limits and some idiot will put a fake erection in a wrestlers tights,

as I said before the WWE are very politically correct at this point in time, if modders do things that are not part of real wrestling in the game , modding the morphing tools abilities and limits, some of those limits were imposed due to WWE instructions after old games were abused, you are facing a company that removed Hogan from the history of the company for 1 politically incorrect outburst.

[ShikenNuggets]

steve님이 먼저 게시:

some of those limits were imposed due to WWE instructions after old games were abused

How many times has this actually happened (I ask this as a genuine question)? How many times have restrictions been put on the system that we know, for a fact, were put there specifically for the purpose of preventing a certain type of mod?

Even if it was going to happen, as I've said over and over again, the WWE (or whoever's imposing the restrictions) is making a stupid decision. The whole point of modding in a context like this is to break free of the restrictions placed on the system, and their plan to stop that from happening is adding more restrictions.

Can you see why that's a stupid way to respond to it? Can you see why I keep saying that the modders aren't at fault here? Do you at least somewhat see where I'm coming from with this?

steve님이 먼저 게시:

you are facing a company that removed Hogan from the history of the company for 1 politically incorrect outburst.

I don't know what happened there (never really followed the IRL stuff), but that's a very different situation. Hogan represented the company directly, so removing him from a position where he was directly representing the company after something like that (again, don't know what happened, but I imagine it was a little more than just "politically incorrect") makes sense.

On the other hand, if someone puts a ♥♥♥♥ into the game (which isn't something I have any interest in doing), that doesn't matter for them, because that's not actually an official part of the game, so if they just ignored it they wouldn't have any problems.

[Werecat101]

painted on ♥♥♥♥♥ and pubic hair caused the crotch blur and lost us the ability to put designs in those areas, history is a great teacher. Idiots will be idiots and innocent people suffer.

as for blaming the WWE or 2K, how about we say it in a very simple way, if this game does not suit you as it comes out of the box without any hacking then go buy a different game.

and yes Modding a game that doesnt have built in support is really hacking, calling it unsupported modding is a nice way of describing it.

[ShikenNuggets]

steve님이 먼저 게시:

painted on ♥♥♥♥♥ and pubic hair caused the crotch blur and lost us the ability to put designs in those areas, history is a great teacher. Idiots will be idiots and innocent people suffer.

So this only happened that one time? You can't really identify a trend from a single point of data. It happened once in a rather specific incident, that doesn't mean it'll definitely happen again if someone dares to mod the game in any way.

steve님이 먼저 게시:

if this game does not suit you as it comes out of the box without any hacking then go buy a different game.

I enjoy the game as it is, but I could enjoy it even more if I mod it.

Also, by this logic, you should be against any modding, not just the unrealistic mutant stuff.

steve님이 먼저 게시:

Modding a game that doesnt have built in support is really hacking

This is just semantics, but in this context hacking is typically referring to cheating through an external program, whereas modding is typically adding new content or features. They use the same methods, but they're not necessarily the same thing.

[Werecat101]

ShikenNuggets님이 먼저 게시:

steve님이 먼저 게시:

painted on ♥♥♥♥♥ and pubic hair caused the crotch blur and lost us the ability to put designs in those areas, history is a great teacher. Idiots will be idiots and innocent people suffer.

So this only happened that one time? You can't really identify a trend from a single point of data. It happened once in a rather specific incidence, that doesn't mean it'll definitely happen again if someone dares to mod the game in any way.

steve님이 먼저 게시:

if this game does not suit you as it comes out of the box without any hacking then go buy a different game.

I enjoy the game as it is, but I could enjoy it even more if I mod it.

Also, by this logic, you should be against any modding, not just the unrealistic mutant stuff.

steve님이 먼저 게시:

Modding a game that doesnt have built in support is really hacking

This is just semantics, but in this context hacking is typically referring to cheating through an external program, whereas modding is typically adding new content or features. They use the same methods, but they're not necessarily the same thing.

ok to keep up with political correctness the wwe stopped having Male vs female matches, so mixed gender matches disappeared in the game and an instant DQ was imposed on any male character that in any situation hit the female.
the year after the genitalia was stopped some of the idiots put the same designs on t-♥♥♥♥♥ on characters if the caw was uploaded onto the servers the person was banned from online play.
and yes they were banned at a machine id level so they couldnt just make another account.

I do not use any mods! but ignore in the same way that 2K and the WWE do anything that isnt going to hurt the game overall, adding a few wrestlers from last year as long as you own last years game isnt going to hurt the overall game. but even that wasnt totally succesful idiots did upload them to the community creations and caused lots of people to get corrupted saves.

Some games do support modding for example Rome 2 :Total War it has a mod manager built into the game. as do most of the late "The Creative Assembly" games.

Anything that require people to use hex editors to change sections of code and indeed needing people to reverse engineer and work out where those edits are needed( depending on where you live in the world, just that action could be breaking the law) then replacing sections of code that are clearly under copyright (yet again breaking the terms by which you use said code, depending on where you live in the world). for you it would be the" Notice and Notice" system on thier side its a simple "cease and desist altering our program against the terms and conditions" on your side i cant think how you could legally win that argument.

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steve님이 먼저 게시:

I do not use any mods! but ignore in the same way that 2K and the WWE do anything that isnt going to hurt the game overall

So basically, you ignore modding when it's stuff that you think is acceptable, but then ♥♥♥♥♥ about it and act like it's such a huge problem when it's something you don't like.

Honestly I don't see a difference between adding in old wrestlers and adding in crazy weird ♥♥♥♥. I don't see how either of those could "hurt the game overall".

steve님이 먼저 게시:

i cant think how you could legally win that argument.

This isn't relevant. I'm not talking what's allowed in the terms of use agreement, that's a different matter entirely.

[Werecat101]

the old wrestler was Politically correct his attire isnt offensive, but when you start playing with shapes for people it is possible to offend people, if a person creates a person without arms such as the poor people that suffer physical disability, or hunchbacks or many other physical deformities that are currently impssible. I am not saying you would I am saying if you take the items and make them possible an idiot might and that is a good reason for the limits to remain.


And unfortunately the user agreement is where it all ends, and at the end of the day we all lose when the line is finally crossed, and they do step into the legal arguments.

[ShikenNuggets]

steve님이 먼저 게시:

but when you start playing with shapes for people it is possible to offend people

You brought this up before, and it's still ridiculous. So what if someone makes a character with no arms, or some other weird deformity? If someone gets offended (for whatever idiotic reason) by the sight of something like this in a video game, that's their problem, the WWE has no reason to worry about that, since it's not an official part of the game.

And by this logic, they should just completely character creator so that no one is accidentally offended by something someone makes with it.

steve님이 먼저 게시:

And unfortunately the user agreement is where it all ends, and at the end of the day we all lose when the line is finally crossed, and they do step into the legal arguments.

But you're okay with certain mods. Those mods (whether they be mods that make the game run better, add old wrestlers, allow more variation with the character creator) are all violating the terms of use agreement. You can't defend some mods but not others and still try to bring this up.

And besides, in a legal setting this would only affect the person actually making the modifications, so this doesn't matter anyway.

[Werecat101]

ShikenNuggets님이 먼저 게시:

steve님이 먼저 게시:

but when you start playing with shapes for people it is possible to offend people

You brought this up before, and it's still ridiculous. So what if someone makes a character with no arms, or some other weird deformity? If someone gets offended, that's their problem, the WWE has no reason to worry about that, since it's not an official part of the game.

And by this logic, they should just take out the character creator entirely so that no one is accidentally offended by something someone makes with it.

If people post videos and the WWE decide to do something that might just be the outcome or 5 set shapes for people no morphing tools at all.

ShikenNuggets님이 먼저 게시:

steve님이 먼저 게시:

And unfortunately the user agreement is where it all ends, and at the end of the day we all lose when the line is finally crossed, and they do step into the legal arguments or just stop making a PC ported version of the game.

But you're okay with certain mods. Those mods (whether they be mods that make the game run better, add old wrestlers, allow more variation with the character creator) are all violating the terms of use agreement. You can't defend some mods but not others and still try to bring this up.

And besides, in a legal setting this would only affect the person actually making the modifications, so this doesn't matter anyway.

Are you stupid? I dont use any mods, I wouldnt care if they put every mod user into a big prison, I wont use mods I find no need, 100 caw slots filled my roster.my saves dont corrupt my game has no problems running.

But having said that putting a old wrestler into the game is about the same as creating a caw as long as you own the game he came from and don't upload him anywhere. yes its still modding but as that character is already approved for game usage from the original game.and as such wont be offensive to anyone.or get complaints. changing morphing tools does raise the possibility of offending people.

when people get offended and complain people from the companys start looking into the complaint and react in any way they find neccessary. and who is at fault not them only the people that craeted the situation where people could get offended are at fault I.E the modders that create a mod that can be used in an offensive manner.

not 1 of the mods makes the game run better, so bringing that into the discussion is pure ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[ShikenNuggets]

steve님이 먼저 게시:

If people post videos and the WWE decide to do something that might just be the outcome or 5 set shapes for people no morphing tools at all.

For the 15 millionth ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time, you don't know for sure that they would react to it at all. That only happened once, and it was a very different situation.

steve님이 먼저 게시:

yes its still modding

That's my point. You're trying to defend certain mods and say that those are okay, yet say others aren't because they're "breaking the rules", even though the mods you're okay with are breaking the same rules.

That's all this is. You just don't want me to use the mods that I want to use because you don't like them. That's all this discussion has been.

steve님이 먼저 게시:

who is at fault not them only the people that craeted the situation where people could get offended are at fault I.E the modders that create a mod that can be used in an offensive manner.

So let me get this straight. Lets say I make a simple mod that lets me make a really tall or fat person. Someone else uses this mod to make a fake erection (or something like that, idk), then the WWE completely overreacts and makes a dumb decision to completely remove the character creator. You're telling me that if that happened, that would be completely 100% MY fault that the character creator is gone, not the WWE's for making an absolutely stupid decision and removing the system?

Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kidding me? Do you seriously not realize how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ absurd that is?

You've already decided that the company is incapable of doing any wrong, and the modders are horrible people who should be locked up. Obviously you have no intention of being at all open-minded about this, so I give up. If you want to keep being ignorant and appeasing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ company because it MIGHT make ♥♥♥♥♥♥ decision, fine, I don't care.

[Werecat101]

who wo

ShikenNuggets님이 먼저 게시:

steve님이 먼저 게시:

If people post videos and the WWE decide to do something that might just be the outcome or 5 set shapes for people no morphing tools at all.

For the 15 millionth ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time, you don't know for sure that they would react to it at all. That only happened once, and it was a very different situation.

steve님이 먼저 게시:

yes its still modding

That's my point. You're trying to defend certain mods and say that those are okay, yet say others aren't because they're "breaking the rules", even though the mods you're okay with are breaking the same rules.

That's all this is. You just don't want me to use the mods that I want to use because you don't like them. That's all this discussion has been.

steve님이 먼저 게시:

who is at fault not them only the people that craeted the situation where people could get offended are at fault I.E the modders that create a mod that can be used in an offensive manner.

So let me get this straight. Lets say I make a simple mod that lets me make a really tall or fat person. Someone else uses this mod to make a fake erection (or something like that, idk), then the WWE completely overreacts and makes a dumb decision to completely remove the character creator. You're telling me that if that happened, that would be completely 100% MY fault that the character creator is gone, not the WWE's for making an absolutely stupid decision and removing the system?

Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kidding me? Do you seriously not realize how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ absurd that is?

You've already decided that the company is incapable of doing any wrong, and the modders are horrible people who should be locked up. Obviously you have no intention of being at all open-minded about this, so I give up. If you want to keep being ignorant and appeasing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ company because it MIGHT make ♥♥♥♥♥♥ decision, fine, I don't care.

no but you are the one saying if what the modders do offends people its the people that get offended at fault, you are a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ person that thinks as yourself as a special snowflake that can do what you want and anyone else should do what you want. and never get offended at anything.

[ShikenNuggets]

steve님이 먼저 게시:

no but you are the one saying if what the modders do offends people its the people that get offended at fault

If people are offended by the sight of fat people, that's their own ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ problem. I'm not talking about being deliberately offensive, I'm talking about the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ "politically correct" people that get offended by every tiny little thing.

And that had nothing to do with what I'm actually saying anyway. I'm saying the WWE shouldn't overreact and remove features because of stuff like this.

[Werecat101]

ShikenNuggets님이 먼저 게시:

steve님이 먼저 게시:

but when you start playing with shapes for people it is possible to offend people

So what if someone makes a character with no arms, or some other weird deformity? If someone gets offended (for whatever idiotic reason) by the sight of something like this in a video game, that's their problem, the WWE has no reason to worry about that, since it's not an official part of the game.

so you think its ok to make fun of people with disabilities and its them at fault if some piece of ♥♥♥♥ like you makes fun of them

ShikenNuggets님이 먼저 게시:

steve님이 먼저 게시:

no but you are the one saying if what the modders do offends people its the people that get offended at fault

If people are offended by the sight of fat people, that's their own ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ problem. I'm not talking about being deliberately offensive, I'm talking about the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ "politically correct" people that get offended by every tiny little thing.

funny 2 posts from you and its becomming clear what a piece of ♥♥♥♥ you are

[ShikenNuggets]

steve님이 먼저 게시:

so you think its ok to make fun of people with disabilities and its them at fault if some piece of ♥♥♥♥ like you makes fun of them

No? I never said anything about making fun of people with disabilities.

Now you're just making ♥♥♥♥ up to try and make me look bad.

[Werecat101]

ShikenNuggets님이 먼저 게시:

steve님이 먼저 게시:

so you think its ok to make fun of people with disabilities and its them at fault if some piece of ♥♥♥♥ like you makes fun of them

No? I never said anything about making fun of people with disabilities.

you said its thier fault if they get offended.

remember typing this ♥♥♥♥

ShikenNuggets님이 먼저 게시:

steve님이 먼저 게시:

but when you start playing with shapes for people it is possible to offend people

You brought this up before, and it's still ridiculous. So what if someone makes a character with no arms, or some other weird deformity? If someone gets offended (for whatever idiotic reason) by the sight of something like this in a video game, that's their problem, the WWE has no reason to worry about that, since it's not an official part of the game.