WWE 2K16
Mods to beef up the Custom Character creator?
Basically new to the 2kxx series, was just wondering if there are any mods to make the character creator more versatile - more extreme body morphing, wearing capes etc. into the ring, wider height differences... You get the idea. I want to make some real mutants and watch them beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of each other.
Edit: Doesn't seem to be much out there, so I'll just use the game as is. Also, interesting discussion appears to have exploded out of this regarding whether or not this sort of thing "should be allowed". I'd like to state my innocence - I only wanted a game in which I could make characters and see them fight (it's hilarious to watch with friends), and WWE 2k16 looked like a cool game to do it with. That's it from my end.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: ?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!; 2016. nov. 28., 10:39
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steve eredeti hozzászólása:
making a game do things it shouldnt is the problem

No, it's not. Regardless of whether the mods "should" or "shouldn't" be put into the game, the developers still shouldn't be stripping features from the game because of it. THAT, is the real problem. If that wasn't happening, you wouldn't give a single ♥♥♥♥ about the modders.

I have nothing else to say to you, I've said the same ♥♥♥♥ over and over again, and you keep ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ignoring it. Fine, stay in your self-maintained ignorance. I don't care. But I'm going to mod the game to my pleasure. If you have a problem with that, tough ♥♥♥♥. Deal with it.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: ShikenNuggets; 2016. nov. 28., 8:34
Side note, I find it kind of amusing that people here are vehemently defending that we should maintain the realism of something that's fake as ♥♥♥♥.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: ShikenNuggets; 2016. nov. 28., 8:59
Its funny that you seem to deliberately argue that the modders should be able to do anything, whereas I want them to stay within the games original intentions which is no nudity,and normal shaped people and can see that if they do mod the creation system we will wind up losing features.I dont object to injecting last years game wrestlers into your own game but as we all know the imbeciles then uploaded them and caused lots of people to get save game corruption,
none of that would have been a problem if it wasnt for the imbeciles, they are the same imbeciles that would upload or deliberately make offensive videos to incite a problem.
And personally I would rather we had a solid game with a working system than something the game creators get told to reduce due to those idiots.

The only working solution to those idiots is not to have mods that can create the problems.

as for wrestling being fake, yes who wins and loses is scripted, but they are really performing moves, and they do get hurt and people have died when things go wrong. so calling it full contact live action stunts and acting may be a closer to the truth name
steve eredeti hozzászólása:
if they do mod the creation system we will wind up losing features.

READ ALL OF MY PREVIOUS POSTS WHERE I ADDRESS THIS.

Like I said, I have nothing else to say to you. You keep ignoring everything I'm saying and just keep trying to demonize everyone that wants to mod the game, even though they're not the ones stripping features from your precious game for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reasons.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: ShikenNuggets; 2016. nov. 28., 11:28
name the feature stripped since 2k took over? I am warning people that if you push the creators outside the contracted material they have with the WWE you will ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lose.
steve eredeti hozzászólása:
name the feature stripped since 2k took over?

Why are you asking me about this? You're the one that brought up the problem of the developers removing/restricting features.

steve eredeti hozzászólása:
I am warning people

No you're not, you're being an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and telling (not warning, it looks more like commanding) people not to mod the game because it's somehow their fault that the developers are stupid and don't know how to react to things they didn't intend.
ShikenNuggets eredeti hozzászólása:
steve eredeti hozzászólása:
and if you modding a game causes me to lose features why should I be happy about it?.

The modding isn't causing it, the developer's stupidity is. Why can't you see that?

And, like I said before, just because it happened one time doesn't mean it's going to happen every single time someone dares to mod the game to be just a tiny bit unrealistic. You're overeacting.

YOU don't seem to understand.

I'll explain it for you...

WWE = intellectual owner
Yukes = developer
2K = publisher
modders = part of community

If the modders pull off stupid ♥♥♥♥, WWE FORBIDS Yukes to use certain features, Yukes is not stupid; they want to keep developing so don't include the feature as ordered by WWE.

Fans = mad at modders pulling of stupid ♥♥♥♥, causing Yukes to develop a toned down game as ordered by WWE.
He thinks they wont cancel the PC version if the modders really upset the WWE, all I can say is last gen consoles outsell the pc many times over and they will be cancelled soon. and they didnt do anything to upset the WWE.
officemonk eredeti hozzászólása:
Yukes is not stupid; they want to keep developing so don't include the feature as ordered by WWE.

This is really just semantics. The people in charge of making those decisions (whether it be the developers, publishers, WWE, whatever) are making stupid decisions. Don't blame the modders for what the people in charge are doing wrong.

steve eredeti hozzászólása:
last gen consoles outsell the pc many times over and they will be cancelled soon. and they didnt do anything to upset the WWE.

What does that have to do with anything? That had to happen eventually no matter what. The old consoles are actually holding back the games, and they likely aren't making enough money from them to justify that.

And do you have any factual evidence that shows that the last-gen console versions are selling better than the PC versions, or are you just pulling this out of your ass?
ShikenNuggets eredeti hozzászólása:
officemonk eredeti hozzászólása:
Yukes is not stupid; they want to keep developing so don't include the feature as ordered by WWE.

This is really just semantics. The people in charge of making those decisions (whether it be the developers, publishers, WWE, whatever) are making stupid decisions. Don't blame the modders for what the people in charge are doing wrong.

The people in charge (WWE in this case) protect their property, the logical thing to do.

Us fans want realistic games, yes we like mods as long as they're realistic: for example the classic blue cage.

Then there's kids, buying the game when it's on sale and wanting fantasy stuff. Eventually some of those kids will create those mods and create a mutant copyrighted by Marvel (yeah, yeah Disney), Marvel (Disney) calls WWE for an answer. WWE doesn't want to get sued, so orders Yukes to make sure this can't happen in the next game. In doing so they have to remove something that wasn't harmful when not modding.

So, no, us fans aren't mad at WWE protecting themself from getting sued. We're also not mad at modders creating awesome, realistic mods. We're mad at rogue modders.

steve eredeti hozzászólása:
last gen consoles outsell the pc many times over and they will be cancelled soon. and they didnt do anything to upset the WWE.

What does that have to do with anything? That had to happen eventually no matter what. The old consoles are actually holding back the games, and they likely aren't making enough money from them to justify that.

And do you have any factual evidence that shows that the last-gen console versions are selling better than the PC versions, or are you just pulling this out of your ass? [/quote]

Most people that buy WWE PC aren't console owners. Consoles are still big bussiness. Ported games like this one are for a niche market, best proof: PC fans had to wait 13 years for a new WWE game (from 2002 until 2015), consoles still had a yearly release.

So yes the console version sells better.
the old consoles make many times over times what they make from the pc sales 2K can cut us off just as easy, if the Modders do the wrong thing with mods and threaten the 2K games relationship with the WWE.

ShikenNuggets eredeti hozzászólása:

What does that have to do with anything? That had to happen eventually no matter what. The old consoles are actually holding back the games, and they likely aren't making enough money from them to justify that.

And do you have any factual evidence that shows that the last-gen console versions are selling better than the PC versions, or are you just pulling this out of your ass?

if the old consoles version make a lot more money than the PC do you think they wont cut us off? when the old console goes away we could aswell if you threaten the relationship with the wrong kind of mods. Historically this is a console game if you cause any problems the PC market is small and not that much of a loss, its why we get a port not a game written for the PC.

oh and my sales data comes from several sources but here is the place i get my console data http://www.vgchartz.com PC sales came from a comment on Steams own sales figures by steam. I would say that the last sale price will have reduced the gap down to maybe 5 to 1 ps3 sales to pc sales. when it was 12 ps3 sale for every pc sale

my sales data was collected in july for the consoles and september for the pc

with a few simple searches you too could find this data but lazy and stupid are already a major part in your character
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Werecat101; 2016. nov. 29., 4:33
officemonk eredeti hozzászólása:
Marvel (Disney) calls WWE for an answer

That is completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ absurd. In all of the years that PC modding has been a thing (basically as long as PC gaming was a thing) I have never heard of this happening ever.

Also, you can recreate a lot of copyrighted characters whether the game is modded or not, so this isn't really relevant to the discussion of modding.

And none of that matters anyway, because as far as I know, none of the actions they took to prevent modding (I'm only aware of the crotch blur instance) had anything to do with protecting themselves from a lawsuit.

officemonk eredeti hozzászólása:
We're mad at rogue modders.

So if somebody makes a mod that you don't like, that makes them a "rogue modder"? What does that even mean?

Again, if you want to keep your "realism" (as realistic as "pro wrestling" can be, anyway), you're fine to do that, but you guys are completely overreacting to something and trying to make it seem like it's such a horrible thing just because you don't like it.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: ShikenNuggets; 2016. nov. 29., 4:55
steve eredeti hozzászólása:
we could aswell if you threaten the relationship with the wrong kind of mods.

You're assuming that they'll just decide to stop making PC games for some dumb reason. You don't know that for a fact. And you're acting like it's somehow my fault if they did decide to do that.

But no, I suppose you're right, we should appease the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ company and demonize people that are just trying to enjoy the game. [/sarcasm]

steve eredeti hozzászólása:
lazy and stupid are already a major part in your character

It's always funny to see someone with atrocious grammar try to call me stupid.

Try harder with your insults.
Amazing you dont follow up the comment about sales figures with an apology that you were wrong and my figures came from real sources.

if anything done on the PC version upsets or threatens the wwe games from 2K due to mods they would cancel the PC version, or remove the features that are being abused with the mods.
I have no doubt looking at this years sales figures for 2k17 the game is very big on the PS4 and XboxOne, we make up less than 5% of sales if we get the same PC sales figures next march. and that isn't counting any sales between now and then on the 2 consoles in question.

What makes you think that 2K will risk 95% of the income from the WWE2K games just to keep the PC version on sale.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Werecat101; 2016. nov. 29., 5:07
steve eredeti hozzászólása:
Amazing you dont follow up the comment about sales figures with an apology that you were wrong and my figures came from real sources.

Didn't feel it was necessary. I wasn't wrong, because I never claimed anything. I simply asked if the sales figures were actually from a reliable source.

steve eredeti hozzászólása:
they would cancel the PC version

Again with that assumption. You don't know that for a fact. And if that did happen, I would be way more mad at whoever made the decision to can the game (WWE, 2K, whatever) than some modder(s) who did nothing inherently wrong.

You're also assuming that every single unrealistic mod is somehow threating the WWE in some way.
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