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dman_dustin Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:54pm
Hard to understand clues and characters
I lost to basic Bob because he said someone looked messy but the actually person who was guilty was neat and clean, now I may have read it wrong so I will ignore it, but some of the clues do not make sense.

Now to the real problem:

What exactly is Dim Dan and Evil Eddy in terms of their clues? Dim Dan is fine, but what does it mean for Evil Eddy?

Half truths, does this mean that the person has to have 2 truths and 2 that don't match up (as what I call opposites). So if a character matches all of them or has 3 to 1 depending on the circumstances they cannot be the guilty party. 3 truths 1 opposite, 1 truth 3 opposites

Or is it that Evil Eddy can completely tell the truth, and you somehow you have to guess. Because I remember one where all of the information was true for that character, and so I eliminated him as a suspect, guess what? He turned out to be the guilty man.

The clues are difficult which would explain why I screwed up the last one, not sure what counts as accurate or not.

I want to try one more time, but I'm often confused as to what I'm doing wrong, it seems as if you don't know what the character is saying, most of the time you have to guess.
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dman_dustin Aug 20, 2015 @ 2:15pm 
Well I just did a test, Evil Eddy did not tell half truths at all. All 4 of them were true.

I think the Evil Eddy needs his description changed, because he's clearly not telling half truths.

The suspect was manly, old, fat, and short, that's why I eliminated him, because there were supposed to be half truths.

I'm not going to get the logic of this game. After all Opposite Opie, tells the opposite. So how can a character that tells half truths be completely telling the truth.

As a logical person, my intelligence is just taking a beating here.
vpr Aug 20, 2015 @ 2:15pm 
Evil Eddy: The two hints which are green are ALWAYS right, so release anyone who doesn't match the two and then if it is a toss-up between two possible candidates, look at his other two hints in red to discern who best fits the most hints. Sometimes you can get lucky and find only 1 person who matches his two green hints which can make things easier.

Dim Dan: He will always give 3 green hints and 1 red. However, any one of those hints can be wrong, it is up to you to try and figure out which of them it is. I usually ignore the red hint first and see if anyone fits the 3 green off the bat, if not just find someone who fits 2 of them including the red and you are good to go! (say for instance one of the green says he is positive they are tiny, but there are no short people to choose from then you know this hint is incorrect.)

As with all the clues, try to always pick the person who most fits the description. So if your hint is "they are pale" and you have two who fit that, then more often than not the one who is more pale than the other is who you are after. Character names are also quite important, especially so in the later stages of the game.
Last edited by vpr; Aug 20, 2015 @ 2:17pm
Skay Aug 20, 2015 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by dman_dustin:
Well I just did a test, Evil Eddy did not tell half truths at all. All 4 of them were true.

I think the Evil Eddy needs his description changed, because he's clearly not telling half truths.

The suspect was manly, old, fat, and short, that's why I eliminated him, because there were supposed to be half truths.

I'm not going to get the logic of this game. After all Opposite Opie, tells the opposite. So how can a character that tells half truths be completely telling the truth.

As a logical person, my intelligence is just taking a beating here.
If you paid attention to what is written in game and used common sense you would understand that only 2 of clues are guaranteed to be truth. Thats why he says only half the truth. Red ones when he only 'thinks' have 60% chance to be true.
dman_dustin Aug 20, 2015 @ 5:32pm 
Originally posted by Skay:
Originally posted by dman_dustin:
Well I just did a test, Evil Eddy did not tell half truths at all. All 4 of them were true.

I think the Evil Eddy needs his description changed, because he's clearly not telling half truths.

The suspect was manly, old, fat, and short, that's why I eliminated him, because there were supposed to be half truths.

I'm not going to get the logic of this game. After all Opposite Opie, tells the opposite. So how can a character that tells half truths be completely telling the truth.

As a logical person, my intelligence is just taking a beating here.
If you paid attention to what is written in game and used common sense you would understand that only 2 of clues are guaranteed to be truth. Thats why he says only half the truth. Red ones when he only 'thinks' have 60% chance to be true.

But if that were true, then why is it that Opposite Opie is always the opposite?

So if what Opie says is true is false, then you can't have a character that says half truths but always in the green is always accurate.

It's defeats the entire purpose to have ONLY one special unique character, and yet the other ones DON'T matter and I don't think I've or anyone I've seen go past Opie.
Florence Aug 20, 2015 @ 5:45pm 
I can consistently get past Opie! I've beaten the game twice.

Use hints to exclude others who don't fit the description before using them to find people who do. If Opposite Opie says "I'm positive that he looked rich", you shouldn't go and look for the poor people; you should exclude all the rich people from the lineup first. Once I've done this for all four hints, I typically go for the person who best encompasses the opposite of all of Opie's hints.
Skay Aug 20, 2015 @ 11:04pm 
Originally posted by dman_dustin:
Originally posted by Skay:
If you paid attention to what is written in game and used common sense you would understand that only 2 of clues are guaranteed to be truth. Thats why he says only half the truth. Red ones when he only 'thinks' have 60% chance to be true.

But if that were true, then why is it that Opposite Opie is always the opposite?

So if what Opie says is true is false, then you can't have a character that says half truths but always in the green is always accurate.

It's defeats the entire purpose to have ONLY one special unique character, and yet the other ones DON'T matter and I don't think I've or anyone I've seen go past Opie.
Oppie is always right, but it's always right in the opposite. His 4 clues are always correct. And really it's super easy to get first 11-12 days. The only struggle in early game might be the homeless guy.
Ian Aug 21, 2015 @ 7:36am 
I feel like sometimes what the clue says and what gets generated is sometimes broken. I've had clues where it says the guy was clean, and then the real guy had an egg on his head :(
Escapist Aug 21, 2015 @ 12:43pm 
stupid thing is game gives pointless clues.

he is not girly
he is not queer
he is not punky(%66)
he is not all hip

I'm writing this when I'm playing the game right now. There is not a one clue that gives me the what's the suspect looks like. I remove(released) all the suspects fits the narrative what's clues gave me and right now I have 5 man right front of me. They all look alike and they have small differences but I can't literally tell which is which.

I was at day 20 and I was too close to win a golden finger achievement and %100 complete the game but I get something like this. what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke.
Last edited by Escapist; Aug 21, 2015 @ 12:45pm
Originally posted by Escapist:
stupid thing is game gives pointless clues.

I was at day 20 and I was too close to win a golden finger achievement and %100 complete the game but I get something like this. what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke.

Same. The clues were vague and meaningless, had 3 very much alike looking suspects that were all suitable for the description. Failed. So frustrating. And the bold clue was wrong - it was said that it is truth (and it supposed to be, it was not Oppie) and the real criminal eventually was with hair...I was mad! But I see you perfected the game - so congrats! :smile: Any clues for "golden finger"?
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