PC: Similar new tactical RPG's / squad based strategy combat games?

[captaincofresi]

So far I have only seen similar isometric strategic gameplay in:

Syndicate Wars (NOT the new FPS)
Commandos
Freedom Force & Freedom Force vs. the third reich
Neverwinternights 1 (wich also has the 'pause' option for strategic purposes)

Any other games I should know of? And what is this genre called anyway?

[Artaksatra]

for a contemporary iteration of the genre: xcom enemy unknown (remake of the classic early 90s' title)

the avernum/avadum series

or the tactical jrpg genre: final fantasy tactics, ogre battle, the disgaea series

OR (slightly off-topic), if you're more the hardcore gamer type,
you could look into roguelikes (my personal all-time favourite is Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup):
they're not squad-based, but they're turn-based and have TONS of strategic depth (and permadeath as well, which gives the concept of strategy whole new levels of meaning!),
but you'll have to get past the simple ASCII/tiles graphics (well worth it imo).

[captaincofresi]

Thanks for the new game options! Not really a hardcore gamer anymore, e.g. Neverwinternights 2 already got a little bit too complex for me. And I can see how that would appeal to the more hardcore RPG gamer :).

[captaincofresi]

I looked into your suggestions, and see that I forgot to mention the platform that I'm on. Now added PC to the subject title here.

[Vagabond]

another old game you might enjoy is Silent Storm, you can get it on GoG.com

[mmmorphine]

Definately check out Jagged Alliance: Back in action, and I think there is a new one too, so yeah, just check out Jagged Alliance

[praz]

On the gamecube/wii the fire emblem series are quite good.

[Binni The Great]

Jagged Alliance Gold

[captaincofresi]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I might someday check out the new X-com, it's a bit more towards some casual / tactical gaming for my taste. Although it's turn-based rather than real-time / pause, the gameplay that I do love in Freedom Force / Neverwinternights 1. I did try some of the Jagged Alliance demos, but for me the learning-curve is just a bit too steep for those games. Just don't have the time anymore to get into those games that deep nowadays.

[Order / BigBoxEnthusiast]

Jagged Alliance is the most similar game to fallout tactics wiuthout a doubt.

[CompDoc]

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for a contemporary iteration of the genre: xcom enemy unknown (remake of the classic early 90s' title)

The new XCOM reminds me a LOT of Tactics. The squad-based top-down tactical game play is very similar. I think anyone that is a fan of Tactics would enjoy the hell out of XCOM:EU.

[captaincofresi]

Thanks, that sounds like the best option for now. Demo was nice to play. It's on my wishlist, although I still have enough other games to play for now. And over here spring/summer is starting so I'll probably play less anyway. I'll just keep a lookout for when there is a special offer ;)

[$hitDemon]

warhammer 40k chaos gate! but dont work unless you have a rig with windows 98 or before but for sure the only game that would almost take the title from this. just wish they would make it work for newer computers. that was the cats a$$ back in the day

[Segovax]

Squad based tactics games are different than pause-play group RPG's so you'll miss a bunch categorically if looking for the other.

Squad based tactical TBS:

- XCOM EU that just came out last year
- Jagged Alliance series
- All the old Xcom games are available through Steam

Those are games where you can go into missions with a fixed number of squadmates and complete it from start to finish, swapping them out between missions. They're the closest kind of games you will find to FOT.


- Heroes of Might & Magic thru HOMM5; HOMM6 techically counts but I hate the game and couldn't ever mention it without that warning. These games center on one or more heroes that have limited movement over a map with armies of monsters. It's a blend of RPG and TBS.

- Fallout, Fallout 2, Arcanum (I think?), the ancient SSI gold box games all have characters that have limited move points per turn. They're traditional CRPGs in the sense they focus more on the character building aspect as opposed to mission tactics.

- Icewind Dales, Baldurs Gate and Dragon Age series are games where you have a select number of characters/heroes that engage in real-time combat with an isomentric view that is pausable.

- Master of Orion 2 is a Explore/Expand/Exploit game but has turn based, point-move ship combat. You build your own ships if you want or use premades. There have been a number of attempts to make similar games and the Sins of a Solar Empire group seem to be closest imo.


Of them all, the new XCOM: EU reminds me of FOT the most. It has a little less variety in its tech tree but it makes that up in loyalty to the original, since it pretty much mirrors the original tech tree. The Jagged Alliance games as well but they never held my interest much for some reason. Dunno why really. Still worth props.

[Tiger I E]

Yeah, I've heard lots of recommendations for Jagged Alliance in threads like these. I haven't played it, so I can't speak for myself, though.

[RionRaios]

Wasteland 2 is coming out this year, or at least that's InXile's target. Wasteland is the spiritual daddy of the Fallout series.