Rating System

[Splendid Splinter]

Thinking some tweaking to Ranked ratings could be done. There seems to be a far greater penalty for finishing 4,5,6 at a table than there is a reward for 1,2,3. Too much emphasis perhaps going to adjusting against relative ratings. Even against others of the same rank I see losses exceeding gains. This seems to be at least partly to blame for few or no Gold players to match against. As soon as I reach Gold or even high Silver I am under penalty at most tables because I am the highest rated. It becomes hard to continue climbing while a minor slip can result in catastrophic losses requiring many tables to recover from. Winning a table should carry a bonus perhaps. Cetainly it should be rewarded MORE than losing first at a table is penalized. It's easy to lose. HARD to win. Winning needs to be rewarded more. Right now it feels like punishment for gaining. Less reward and more risk. It made me quit H2H play last season. I would not risk losing 1 game and losing level. So I quit with over 1 week left.
Just some thoughts.

[Major BongBreath]

well dont go out untill your heads up

[Ace]

I played head to head whilst platinum last season against a low ranked bronze queued for two and a half hours. Only needing 2 more points for diamond. Took some balls - if id lost damn. Ranked rating system needs fixing bigtime.

[Ace]

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[Splendid Splinter]

Just played a table where I was the only Gold. Finished 2nd. Gained only 6 points. Apparently now I have to win every tabe or I will soon be getting 0 or even negatives for 2nd place finishes. Can't gain much fewer than 6 or finish much better than 2nd. A little room each way. The Diminishing returns are a Limiting factor;-(

[Captain Pothead]

Originally posted by Splendid Splinter:

Just played a table where I was the only Gold. Finished 2nd. Gained only 6 points. Apparently now I have to win every tabe or I will soon be getting 0 or even negatives for 2nd place finishes. Can't gain much fewer than 6 or finish much better than 2nd. A little room each way. The Diminishing returns are a Limiting factor;-(

Prominence makes players not want to play with the current point system. Seems like a lot of players (not all) are sitting on their points due to this ridiculousness of a point system.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Captain Pothead:

Originally posted by Splendid Splinter:

Just played a table where I was the only Gold. Finished 2nd. Gained only 6 points. Apparently now I have to win every tabe or I will soon be getting 0 or even negatives for 2nd place finishes. Can't gain much fewer than 6 or finish much better than 2nd. A little room each way. The Diminishing returns are a Limiting factor;-(

Prominence makes players not want to play with the current point system. Seems like a lot of players (not all) are sitting on their points due to this ridiculousness of a point system.

Yep, log in and play if your losing top of the leaderboard or just sit at current rank all season.

[Shotgun]

that really sucks splinter , as for bongs comment dont go out till ya heads up yeah thats easier said than done .. hope you were joking around :)

[Captain Pothead]

Originally posted by Ace:

Originally posted by Captain Pothead:

Prominence makes players not want to play with the current point system. Seems like a lot of players (not all) are sitting on their points due to this ridiculousness of a point system.

Yep, log in and play if your losing top of the leaderboard or just sit at current rank all season.

Sounds like fun! Get some points sit back and do nothing. The current system offers no incentive for skill or risk.

Btw - Due to the the time I can actually play (11pm mst), after two months of trying to join a tourney I finally got three games in.

[Ace]

I joined 5-7 tourneys earlier in 1 hour, deliberatly losing first hand and joining a new one. So europe primetime ftw it would seem.

[nexxa]

I've got the scoring system kinda figured out. Well, this is what i usally get...

If your silver and come in, 1st= 20-36pts, 2nd= 13-20ish pts, 3rd= 0-13ish pts, 4th= -3ish - 7ish pts and negative for 5th & 6th place. Now if your gold and come in 1st, you can get anywhere from 7ish and up. If your playing against silver or lower, figure it to be on the low end. 2nd can get you 0 - 1-ish pts. Come in 3rd and if your lucky and played well, you might get 0 pts, but normally its negative points.

Since there's time to make up for screwups, I usually play the 1st 3 weeks then sit on my rank. If i'm playing the last week of the season, it's because I'm trying to regain silver, lol.

It's so true the points system definitely deters players from playing ranked after provisionals. Fixing should definitely see an increase of players. Hopefully since pretty much everyones been posting/commenting about how bad it is, the devs could be working on a fix???? *fingers crossed* I'm trying to stay positive cause I LOVE this game =D

[Splendid Splinter]

Well glad to see I'm not alone. Usually get troll replies. Hope the Devs can come up w/ something. It's gotta be easier than healthcare.

[whiteriverpro]

I've usually only played 3-5 games of ranked H2H a month, get my gold and sit on it for the rest of the month. This month I'm having to playing a few more, but I'm done at Gold.

[Captain Pothead]

It should not matter what "Rank" a players is. The point system should stay the same regardless of what rank your up against. Think of it like this.

-If you cant beat someone better than you, how whould you expect to get any better?

Originally posted by whiteriverpro:

I've usually only played 3-5 games of ranked H2H a month, get my gold and sit on it for the rest of the month.

^^ this is exactlly what the current point system offers. no incentive for skill or risk.

[Splendid Splinter]

I got up to 1171 last night. Came in 3rd and LOST 4 points. I'm now on top of the board. Any game I enter I automatically know I will lose unless I win the table. Maybe break even for a 2nd place. So I am essentialy stuck.

[Ace]

Create an alt to fill those tables if you're an addict like me. Better than pinballing bronze gold till next season or sitting on the rank. Or do what i did and get the lowest rank - now I get 0 points for 4-5-6.