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Is it me or is this game horrendously rigged
It always feels like there's a clear winner - it never seems like there's a close call or anything of the like.

The cards always seem to play/benefit one person over everyone else.
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Captain Pothead Jan 7, 2017 @ 3:48pm 
lol.
Last edited by Captain Pothead; Jan 7, 2017 @ 3:48pm
John Doe Mar 8, 2017 @ 12:38pm 
Played Governor of Poker 3 yesterday. Seems more balanced. Did they fixed the constant flushes on 1 player already?
Scruxx Mar 9, 2017 @ 11:45am 
No, stay away, its still possible to get flush, the absolutly horror ...
John Doe Mar 9, 2017 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by Scruxx:
No, stay away, its still possible to get flush, the absolutly horror ...
Hahaha...
ecavalli Mar 14, 2017 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by Scruxx:
No, stay away, its still possible to get flush, the absolutly horror ...

That's exactly the right amount of sarcasm for a necro'd thread like this. Well played!
kix Mar 17, 2017 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by Captain Pothead:
Ive noticed a change on table flops and the "magic" river since the last update. But yet, Im that guy who thinks if you have paid real money to play this game, your odds are better than those who dont pay. :parkmoney:

if this is true..gg i think its true. same with starthands, i can wait sometimes 30min to get any acceptable starthands.. and it happends again today, 3th day 3th lose in tournament against the last cause a don't get any card to play with.. PURE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ THIS GAME
Last edited by kix; Mar 17, 2017 @ 4:13pm
Scruxx Mar 19, 2017 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by KelloX*Q:
Originally posted by Captain Pothead:
Ive noticed a change on table flops and the "magic" river since the last update. But yet, Im that guy who thinks if you have paid real money to play this game, your odds are better than those who dont pay. :parkmoney:

if this is true..gg i think its true. same with starthands, i can wait sometimes 30min to get any acceptable starthands.. and it happends again today, 3th day 3th lose in tournament against the last cause a don't get any card to play with.. PURE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ THIS GAME

Maybe you should expand your starting hands?! You cant wait for high pockets or a/k A/q all the time. Not sure what kind of cards you use when u play in real life, but also in real life its not common to see a good hand every few minutes. I had evenings in real life poker where i did not saw a good hand in 5 hours. Poor evening, fckyn evening, but happens.

For all who cant believe that bad beats are common, take a card deck, shuffle it and give cards for 6 players, play all the cards open and then have a look which cards would have won in the end.

Im playing poker since 17 years now and in my experience its just normal that you cant win all the time, doesnt matter how good your play is. If you dont have the luck to hit the right cards on the table you can play as godlike as you want. It helps to play good, to compensate a phase of bad cards with some good bluffes, so that your stack doesnt go down too much, but if you want to make money you need luck and sometimes you dont have luck over hours while other people hit every hand. It is just like that, thats poker, its gambling.

The Pro Poker players have one important ability and thats patience. They can sit out a bad phase without loosing too much of their stack and wait for the right opportunity. The pro players who made a lot of money on internet poker are also very patience players and the only way to make money is a stable bankroll management which needs a lot of disciplin. For example, it their bankroll is 50$ they play 1/2 cent blinds until they reach the next bankroll lvl. When my bankroll is 50$ i also play 5$ buy in tournaments or 5/10 cent cash game tables, this if more fun for me but its not the right way for a stable and continuous rising bankroll.
Last edited by Scruxx; Mar 19, 2017 @ 10:52am
yoavL Mar 19, 2017 @ 10:40am 
Do you know any other words to "rigged"?
Look at my "closed "topic.
Knowing who gonna win even before the flop.

Edit: I know that I stated that eariler in this topic, but I just want to tell you that again..
Last edited by yoavL; Mar 19, 2017 @ 10:44am
Scruxx Mar 19, 2017 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by yoavL:
Do you know any other words to "rigged"?
Look at my "closed "topic.
Knowing who gonna win even before the flop.

Edit: I know that I stated that eariler in this topic, but I just want to tell you that again..

Ive read your closed topic, was a big waste of time ....
Last edited by Scruxx; Mar 19, 2017 @ 11:02am
Trismegistus Mar 19, 2017 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by yoavL:
Do you know any other words to "rigged"?
Look at my "closed "topic.
Knowing who gonna win even before the flop.

Edit: I know that I stated that eariler in this topic, but I just want to tell you that again..

Yeah you're just wasting peoples time. You're really stupid.
Scruxx Mar 19, 2017 @ 11:25am 
Oh ya? And youre ugly ^^ !! Devs told you that it has no effect to the game, smart people told you that this does not affect the gameplay anyway but you call other people stupid ...

Lets see, theres a real life card dealer, he shuffles the cards, he deals the cards and then he look at the 5 live cards before they were played. Is the game rigged now is the question? Answer it for yourself.
Trismegistus Mar 19, 2017 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by Scruxx:
Oh ya? And youre ugly ^^ !! Devs told you that it has no effect to the game, smart people told you that this does not affect the gameplay anyway but you call other people stupid ...

Lets see, theres a real life card dealer, he shuffles the cards, he deals the cards and then he look at the 5 live cards before they were played. Is the game rigged now is the question? Answer it for yourself.

I was calling yoavl stupid.
yoavL Mar 19, 2017 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by Scruxx:
Originally posted by yoavL:
Do you know any other words to "rigged"?
Look at my "closed "topic.
Knowing who gonna win even before the flop.

Edit: I know that I stated that eariler in this topic, but I just want to tell you that again..

Ive read your closed topic, was a big waste of time ....


Originally posted by Picatrix:
Originally posted by yoavL:
Do you know any other words to "rigged"?
Look at my "closed "topic.
Knowing who gonna win even before the flop.

Edit: I know that I stated that eariler in this topic, but I just want to tell you that again..

Yeah you're just wasting peoples time. You're really stupid.


Originally posted by Scruxx:
Oh ya? And youre ugly ^^ !! Devs told you that it has no effect to the game, smart people told you that this does not affect the gameplay anyway but you call other people stupid ...

Lets see, theres a real life card dealer, he shuffles the cards, he deals the cards and then he look at the 5 live cards before they were played. Is the game rigged now is the question? Answer it for yourself.
Good, you can't argue - so you are starting to come into personal harassments (why this community is so toxic :steamsalty:)
I didn't make you to look in this topic, so you actually wasted your time by yourself.

"Affect the gameplay"? maybe you're right ; that's why I suggested him to remove the whole "NAMES DISSAPPER" thing - so we can have the element of surprise.

If you have any good arguments besides mocking me beyond the screen, go on.
I just gave my personal experience (200 hours ingame) with the tournaments (as with ring games - you can always reBUY).


Last edited by yoavL; Mar 19, 2017 @ 1:28pm
Captain Pothead Mar 19, 2017 @ 4:50pm 
Look. The devs have posted the algorithm. Its not hard to see Two Pair, Three of a Kind and Full Houses are going to be the action. If you play for straights and flushes you may start to feel punished for playing good hands. My play variance is high. Out of that variance I only play 20% of my hands IRL. I get those hands over and over on Prominence but fail to connect. Prominence got one thing close to real life. Receiving a pocket pair about every 14 hands.

In real life. Having suited cards, a flush draw on the flop roughly gives you 20% - 30% to connect your flush on the turn. Not hitting the nuts on the turn roughly gives you 15% - 19% to connect your flush on the river. Some jacka** here called me out as a hypocrite but looking over my posts. Ive asked questions to my suspicions although Ive never received a direct response, the algorithm was posted. Theres the facts. Cant be a hypocrite when suspicions weren't far off. The game is geared for Action! and thats ok with me. I own just about every suit in the game! :parkmoney:

Just remember. If Prominence were to adjust their algorithm more towards real life, hands would take for ever. WSOP 2016 final table took over 100 heads up hands for Nguyen to win.
Scruxx Mar 19, 2017 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by yoavL:
Good, you can't argue - so you are starting to come into personal harassments (why this community is so toxic :steamsalty:)
I didn't make you to look in this topic, so you actually wasted your time by yourself.

"Affect the gameplay"? maybe you're right ; that's why I suggested him to remove the whole "NAMES DISSAPPER" thing - so we can have the element of surprise.

Dude, just tell me what you wanted to say to me with your coment "Do you know any other words to "rigged"?" Maybe we have a communication problem here. You showed me your thread to proof me that the game is rigged, right?! Maybe we have a different declination of rigged. If you call any poker algorythm rigged thats maybe true, because its a algorythm which follow rules. But as you cant forecast any situations the game is not rigged for the players. Especially if theres is no bank which can earn profit.

@Pothead, sry your text is a bit weird for me and i cant confirm your observations. On some days i can connect nearly everything while i hit nothing on other days. Also cant confirm your all 14 hands a pocket theory, defintly had some evenings here with 4 hours no pocket.

And not sure what you wanna say with the wsop story, ive play heads up matches which last 1,5 hours and ive played heads up matches which last 30 seconds. Lot of heads up matches are decided when both players have a good hand or both players hit very good cards on the table and that can take a while. If you are sittin at the WSOP and can win millions you will wait a little bit longer until you decide to make your final move. And 100 hands is not that much, online that would be 2 hours maybe. You just cant play it that way in this game because your stack is not so big like in the wsop and the blinds gonna kill you after a good hour.

Im going to find the algorythm thread now, im interested if its possible to read it the way you did.

Edit: Is it this thread ^^ ?! http://steamcommunity.com/app/384180/discussions/0/152391995408758098/
Maybe you should listen to your own words into it ^^ !!

Ive found another interesting post in the official forum:

We ran a shuffle test on our deck. Here are the results after 2 billion hands:
Mathematical Probability % of Hands % Difference
High Card 17.4119 % 17.4110 % 0.01 %
Pair 43.8225 % 43.8210 % 0.00 %
Two Pair 23.4955 % 23.4969 % 0.01 %
Three of a Kind 4.8299 % 4.8307 % 0.02 %
Straight 4.6194 % 4.6200 % 0.01 %
Flush 3.0255 % 3.0244 % 0.04 %
Full House 2.5961 % 2.5967 % 0.02 %
Four of a Kind 0.1681 % 0.1682 % 0.08 %
Straight Flush 0.0279 % 0.0279 % 0.22 %
Royal Flush 0.0032 % 0.0032 % 0.03 %

Ok, this chart sucks, have a look for yourself under the original link: http://www.prominencepoker.com/index.php?/forums/topic/2638-deck-shuffling-clarification-it-doesnt-seem-random/&

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Last edited by Scruxx; Mar 19, 2017 @ 6:10pm
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