Rivals of Aether
Baalf Oct 20, 2017 @ 4:58pm
Is Clairen broken?
Just asking since I read someone said she was, though I'm not sure.
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Fiend Oct 20, 2017 @ 5:08pm 
Its too early to say, shes easily one of if not the best character in the game imo though
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SaltySteve Oct 20, 2017 @ 7:41pm 
I've only encountered Clairen on ladder. I haven't seen a single Ranno in 20 games. It's not "new character hype" everyone keeps making it out to be. Shes broken AF.
goober Oct 20, 2017 @ 7:45pm 
I mean she basically ruins absa etalus wrastor and kragg so I'd say she needs to be toned down
strata_ranger Oct 20, 2017 @ 9:07pm 
It's probably true that Clairen's swordplay enjoys an advantage over other characters' melee attacks (namely, the "disjointed" attack hitboxes being quite distinct from her hurtbox). But it's too early to tell what effect she'll have on the meta -- Ori and Sein, for example, (okay, mostly Sein) got a few nerfs since their debut, so if Clairen turns out a bit OP then she'll probably get a few too.
ZexxCrine Oct 20, 2017 @ 9:30pm 
all I know is that the few Clairen's that I have faced made me audibly shout "how huge are these hitboxes?" she outranges every charactor with ease and her hitboxes are so large that the combos don't seem to stop. no matter how I DI I couldn't seem to avoid the screen nukes.
Nitecrwlr Oct 20, 2017 @ 10:59pm 
Its too early to say shes broken, given that everyone is still learning her. give her about a week or 2 then to finalize if shes is stupidly broken or if we just dont know any advantages over her. ive started to pressure her immensly with Zettaburns down special and space back and make her come to me. along with Rannos Tongue launch to aerial. but lets just wait and see.
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P0NYSLAYSTATION Oct 21, 2017 @ 5:38am 
they both feel OP as ♥♥♥♥ to me, which I'm guessing is why they are the only characters anyone is playing.
Baalf Oct 21, 2017 @ 5:53am 
Originally posted by P0NYSLAYSTATION:
they both feel OP as ♥♥♥♥ to me, which I'm guessing is why they are the only characters anyone is playing.

You mean that and the fact they're both new and fresh, so of course people are going to be trying them out?
Deadeye64 Oct 21, 2017 @ 6:57am 
I have a friend that plays smash bros. melee, and holy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ lemme tell you he playes clairen exactly like marth. And my friend isnt a noob at melee either, he knows how to do all the carpal tunnel inducing techs required to play competitive melee, so he was right at home with this game and clairen. cancerous is the only word that seems fitting when facing that, her stupid tip of the blade has all the goodies of marths TOB but with the added bonus of stunning the hit person in place to allow for more bs combos that marth doesnt NEED. I havent been playing rivals for very long but from my experience clairen is op and damn near impossible to punish.
Baalf Oct 21, 2017 @ 11:02am 
The one bad thing I can see about Clairen right away is that she is purely a melee fighter. Her normals and strongs have a bit of range to them compared to other characters, but she has no real projectile or range moves like everyone else has: nothing she can use to deal damage from afar, so she has to rely on her somewhat long melee to fight. In addition, her specials are all very short-ranged.

...That's all I got.
hypster Oct 21, 2017 @ 2:38pm 
I have played her non stop since release, and I can say with a fair amount of accuracy she isn't broken. When I was playing online, Forsburn and Etalus had their way with me. I usually could crap on Absa because of my counter. Forsburn for the same reason, until they got wise and stopped using projectiles. Ranno has given me a bit of trouble because his projectile is a bit faster and if you whiff the counter, he has a free string off his nair, fair and bubble at the end. Couple smashes while in bubble and it was a free 70% for him. I have not faced Wrastor at all. Maypul can give you trouble with stuns and a very quick combo game, but when she recovers on you I just side B, and she is hit with the burst that results, every time. Orcane messes with me because of the changing lengths of his smashes, but when recovering I take him out easily (unless they are creative with their recovery which in most cases they're not).

She is crazy fun to use, the tipper is a great mechanic and she forces people to improve their rundowns because if you try to zone her you will be outzoned.

Edit: I just faced a great Wrastor. Clairen's weight allows Wrastor to just juggle you to kill range and then wingtip you off the side or top, IF your DI isn't spot on. Managed to take one match out of 4.
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Hiro Protagonest Oct 21, 2017 @ 3:23pm 
Clairen has great spacing but she doesn't have a projectile or something like Ranno's tongue so her reach only goes a specific distance (unless the auto-dash on her dash attack counts), so it's going to take a lot of practicing a footsies style of game, with wavedashing and dodging, to see if everyone can catch her whiffs.
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Ball0fLight Oct 21, 2017 @ 10:42pm 
I feel that if we truely want to tell we should look into pro play.

The RCS monthly just happened and the vods should be on Twitch and Youtube in a few days....

That should be a good example.
Triangl Oct 21, 2017 @ 11:34pm 
Im gonna say yes for now but she only needs a few tweaks
Triangl Oct 21, 2017 @ 11:36pm 
Here is a list my friend made about why he hates clairen
ok heres a small list of my problems with clairen 1, way too easy to play for the amount of reward you get 2, tippers are too easy to hit and are hard to fight against 3, spacing doesn't matter with her 4, if clairen decides to throw out a move, you have to wait for the moves hitboxes to end before aproaching. This creates a very slow, annoying, and unfun matchup with basially every character 5, she wins basically every matchup in the game and completely bodies some characters 6, non tipper moves still combo into other moves and arn't that much weaker 7, her counter is spammable 8, her counter negates the need for parrying 9, her up b hitbox is insanely huge and makes it hard to edge guard her without relying on projectiles 10, all her moves combo into eachother without tippers 11, tipper hitstun is too long and makes hard punishes stupid easy 12, recovering low against her is basically imposible and almost completely ruins rannos recovery as his air mobility makes it very hard to recover high without using his very laggy downb which is very punishable 13, recovering mid against her is also basically imposible as she can easily run up and preform a fsmash without giving you a chance to punish 14, recovering high against her is very risky as her long ranged moves easily defeat any disjoint 15, her grab is underused by most players and is 99% of the time, never used once. 17, she carrys bad players because of the reasons above./code]
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