Does anybody know how to deal with the clairen ranno and ori.

[Tree_Sage]

Im having some trouble against these characters how do i get out of clairens string (like jab to wave dash to almost any attack) ranno in general, and ori's crazy combos that go on forever is there some sort of weakness or some type of DI because im tired of dying so easily or taking large amounts of damage before i even get a hit in and when fighting clairen i feel is impossible to get back on stage because of her huge f-smash hitbox also does it have to have a back, up, and in what ever direction u choose also ranno's arials last way too long so if u try and parry he can just wait until the animation is over and with the same move hit you n-air primarily and ori is way to fast her string can go forever and if you sour spot the move and ori dosent hit he can do a n-special and then another smash attack which is a bit broken. Does anybody know how do deal with these characters?

[Amalgamdragon]

Clairen... use projectiles. Low number of players use her down spe shhield thing. (Even myself as a clairen main, i rarely use that slow move, except for edgeguard offstage or critical cases when i am at high percent)
When facing clairen, never ho directly for the stage. That an open "SMASH ME!". Instead, try to reach the wall just under the border, walljump to up spe. That way, if you opponent came to smash your face with a strong attack, it's PUNISH TIME!

Ori (my second main)
Most of the player abuse the "dashbash" strat. When i see an ori, i mentaly prepare to cut his animation with a projectile in case he start dash (don't work with all projectiles!) , or jump to down air as punishment for this behavior
Otherwise... i guess training to parry and dodge should be good?

[Tree_Sage]

Originally posted by Amalgamdragon:

Clairen... use projectiles. Low number of players use her down spe shhield thing. (Even myself as a clairen main, i rarely use that slow move, except for edgeguard offstage or critical cases when i am at high percent)
When facing clairen, never ho directly for the stage. That an open "SMASH ME!". Instead, try to reach the wall just under the border, walljump to up spe. That way, if you opponent came to smash your face with a strong attack, it's PUNISH TIME!

Ori (my second main)
Most of the player abuse the "dashbash" strat. When i see an ori, i mentaly prepare to cut his animation with a projectile in case he start dash (don't work with all projectiles!) , or jump to down air as punishment for this behavior
Otherwise... i guess training to parry and dodge should be good?

thanks man but som times when i go under her and up-b he just goes back a bit then edgegard and what about ranno?

[Amalgamdragon]

I sadly have no reliable tips for Ranno.

And my tips are far from been the best. I just gave you some basic things i learned from play, maybe i did not meet the same kind of player than you, which would explain why the differences.

For the up b problrm, if you see him back, you could maybe use your dodge to evade or go on the stage? Just idea, may not be the best in some case tought...

[Zatch]

Who do you main? If I knew I could provide some advice because each characters deals with these matchups pretty differently