End boss, help please?

[Kruxxor]

Hello all,

I am struggling to beat Neo Ex Death.

Currenty level 46 but I don't have the Bahamut summon or Mime.

Is there any way to defeat him without having Bahamut spam via Mime?
I got Rapid Fire / Sshot, although it does decent damage I am unable to kill any section of Neo Ex Death before he wipes my party (However I can survive quite a few rounds)

What can I do?

Thanks.

[bryrk]

Originally posted by Kruxxor:

Hello all,

I am struggling to beat Neo Ex Death.

Currenty level 46 but I don't have the Bahamut summon or Mime.

Is there any way to defeat him without having Bahamut spam via Mime?
I got Rapid Fire / Sshot, although it does decent damage I am unable to kill any section of Neo Ex Death before he wipes my party (However I can survive quite a few rounds)

What can I do?

Thanks.

Wow dude, I'm still stuck on the lobster thing xD

[Shyao]

You're underleveled. Extremely underleveled. I'm only in the second world and I'm level 33, nearly 34. With how I level, I'll be level 50 easily by the time I get to the third world.

Level up, get more abilities, and try again later.

[Somersault Justice]

I remember a certain part of Neo ExDeath dies instantly if you hit it with a Break Magic Sword. I think the bottom right part?

[LadyErianna]

There are a couple other strategies, though a bit tricky to pull off as I've only really seen speed runners successfully use it (and even then, I could be off, so you may want to check elsewhere online to varify).

From what I remember, if you want to make this easier, you'll need a Chemist or the Mix ability, and the Blue Magics Dark Shock, Lv2 Old, and Lv5 Death. (names may be different in this version as I haven't fully played through it, but Dark Shock is the spell that cuts an enemy's level in half)

1. Mix a Maiden's Kiss and Holy Water/Revivify and use the item on Exdeath (I believe it is called Blessed Kiss or something similar). This will put him into a Berserk state and prevent him from transforming into his 2nd phase (from what I've seen). If it fails, go to step 2a until you can get the Blessed Kiss on him.

2. Attempt to cast Dark Shock on Exdeath.
2a. If it fails, Mix a Holy Water and Antidote (Samon's Might) onto the person casting Dark Shock, it should help increase the chances as the caster's level will increase).

3. When Dark Shock hits, cast Lv2 Old. This will slowly decrease Exdeath's level.

4. Cast Lv5 Death. If Exdeath's level gets to be within the range, it will kill him.

5. If everything went well, that should be it and you shouldn't have to worry about the Neo-Exdeath fight.

If for some reason you don't have all those Blue Magic spells, you're just going to have to hit him with everything you've got after completing step 1. Beware though that Blessed Kiss also grants Haste and Blink.

[LadyErianna]

Originally posted by Shyao:

You're underleveled. Extremely underleveled. I'm only in the second world and I'm level 33, nearly 34. With how I level, I'll be level 50 easily by the time I get to the third world.

Level up, get more abilities, and try again later.

Yeah, he's underleveled by normal means, but the game is possible to beat with everybody in their low teens for a level.

[Kruxxor]

Thanks for your advice everyone.

I have just managed to beat him.

My party was;
Freelancer - Gil toss - Throw
Freelancer - Gill toss - HP +30%
WHM - Summon
WHM - Time

Had everyone in white robes (to help against his magic spells)
Freelancers were dual wielding (although that really didn't matter, it seems)


The start of the fight I had my WHM/TIME cast haste 2 then both of my WHM's went and cast protect and shell on each party member (in between heals)

My freelancers were doing the damage in the first part of the fight, just hitting withh normal attacks.

NEO EX DEATH:
Essentially I just did a gil toss spam and my WHM / SMN cast Leviathan whenever a heal wasn't necessary.

Had a few close calls but 0 deaths.

I think due to my party being in white robes the Freelancers dodged a lot of the physical attacks
Meteor turned into a joke due to shell
The vacuum spell didn't hit too hard

Gil Toss spam is definitely a good way to do it, although this was probably my 15th attempt or so at the battle.

Thanks again guys, good luck!

[Shyao]

Originally posted by sirstarbird:

Originally posted by Shyao:

You're underleveled. Extremely underleveled. I'm only in the second world and I'm level 33, nearly 34. With how I level, I'll be level 50 easily by the time I get to the third world.

Level up, get more abilities, and try again later.

Yeah, he's underleveled by normal means, but the game is possible to beat with everybody in their low teens for a level.

Yes, but that's for people who know what they're doing. That's for people looking for a challenge and know how to abuse the job system to make up for a lack of level using specific abilities to make themselves brokenly powerful.

For the average player, level 46 is extremely underleveled.

[Starlit]

I usually beat ff games around this level and have done advanced and snes at about that level. The key is that the fight will be massively long. Mimic would help alot but the really important abilities are curaga, osmose and phoenix and full raise. If you can keep these spells going then get shell on before the big spells you will be fine. Xfight with drain swords too are really nice if you kill the undead first. There are more reliable levels that let you do the game really easy but I personally dislike how overpowered they feel

[Empress Kaidd]

Originally posted by The Geek Lord:

Wow dude, I'm still stuck on the lobster thing xD

Just spam Thundara and you'll win.

[Starlit]

What's the lobster dude? Only at karnak now and cant remember from old

[Joseph Hazman]

ehh i beat this game at level 50

[Kruxxor]

Originally posted by Shyao:

Originally posted by sirstarbird:

Yeah, he's underleveled by normal means, but the game is possible to beat with everybody in their low teens for a level.

Yes, but that's for people who know what they're doing. That's for people looking for a challenge and know how to abuse the job system to make up for a lack of level using specific abilities to make themselves brokenly powerful.

For the average player, level 46 is extremely underleveled.

Being level 46 at the end game didn't make me feel that I was underlevelled, especially not extremely underlevelled.

It was only EX Death that gave me major trouble.

I did try to grind out a few levels, however the XP gain is excruciating - The amount of XP needed vs the amount of XP gained per battle meant it would probably take a few hours to get from 46-50, plus it would mean backtracking from the dungeon to a different place that gave decent XP within a decent amount of time.

[M'igo Kazan]

The screen just before the boss is the best place to get ABP and master every job, since one of the mobs drop around 30 ABP when killed. What I usually do is train there for an hour or two till I'm packing god-tier freelancers & mimes. Just make sure to grab a stack of Cottage before you set out.

[Fli]

Originally posted by Shyao:

You're underleveled. Extremely underleveled. I'm only in the second world and I'm level 33, nearly 34. With how I level, I'll be level 50 easily by the time I get to the third world.

Level up, get more abilities, and try again later.

That is massive overkill for that point in the game. I've just beaten Atomos and I'm only 26, and I already feel like it's too easy at this point.

I don't get people who grind out extensively this early, it's unnecessary and removes all the challenge from the game.

Grind for the superbosses sure, but for the main story? lol.

[Natzor]

Originally posted by Shyao:

You're underleveled. Extremely underleveled. I'm only in the second world and I'm level 33, nearly 34. With how I level, I'll be level 50 easily by the time I get to the third world.

Level up, get more abilities, and try again later.

Underleveled? i defeated the final boss on lv 42 on the GBA, and the only time i grinded for EXP was on crescent island until i hit lv 33 (i wanted ninja maxed out on bartz along with some jobs leveled up on the other ones).
Also past level 40 grinding for EXP is actually fairly hard since you need 20K exp + for each level, going up to around 30K near 47-48. And most of the enemies pre sealed temple don't offer too much EXP