Blue Magic

[Nezkeys]

I havent used blue mages at all yet and just about to warp to karnak. Is any of this missable or can I just come back to learn everything late game? I really don't like the idea of sitting there for hours hoping an enemy uses a certain spell/ability on me. sounds like a nuisance to learn them all as will be constantly referring to a guide to know which enemies i can learn things from.

Maybe you can recommend a few that are must haves to get along the way as I pass them?

[Nezkeys]

Publicado originalmente por Airen:

It's true, I just did it yesterday.

not on my game. every attack does zero damage or misses whilst in hand form...so I just ended up using defend and waiting for it to change back...which seems like forever. at least 5 mins maybe 10

[Tanaka Taikikku]

The physical attacks can't be spellblade enchanted.

My fight went like this.

Turn 1. human form, hit with blizzarra
Turn 2. hand form, hit with physical attack (moonring from a thief)
Turn 3. tornado form, just waited until he had expelled all his mana on healing himself while casting fira on himself, then hit him with shiva.

From that point on, I hit him with blizarra spellblade in human form, with moonring attack in hand form and it was over.

Think I missed... once maybe?

[Tanaka Taikikku]

Not sure if I have a savefile from before the fight, I'll check tomorrow and redo the battle while screencapturing if I have a conventient location to start from.

[Nezkeys]

he changes instantly from human and tornado, and stays in hand for ages. just tried again on an earlier save and used only physical attacks as you said

[Tanaka Taikikku]

Did you use spellblade attacks on hand form?

[Nezkeys]

nope

[MechaTC]

Well... I won't lie, I don't know for sure if there's any missable spells. I'm pretty sure you can learn anything even at the last 1/5th of the game. Althrough this might be insanely difficult due to rare encounters. Hm... In theory you won't be able to learn lvl spells if you level up to 99, but other than that... Aero might be troublesome at endgame...

Anyway I recommend you learn EVERY blue magic spell whenever you can. Blue magic is awesome) Aqua breath completely trashes some bosses,White Wind for insane healing, Lvl 5 Death allow you to farm AP from Objet de Art with no effort nor requirments, Big Guard gives everyone Protect+Shell+Float and more) ???? is good for 100% accuracy fixed damage, Aeroga, Level 3 Flare, 1000 Needles... Learning everything asap will make your life easier, trust me)

P.S. Death Claw!

[Nezkeys]

Publicado originalmente por MechaTC:

Well... I won't lie, I don't know for sure if there's any missable spells. I'm pretty sure you can learn anything even at the last 1/5th of the game. Althrough this might be insanely difficult due to rare encounters. Hm... In theory you won't be able to learn lvl spells if you level up to 99, but other than that... Aero might be troublesome at endgame...

Anyway I recommend you learn EVERY blue magic spell whenever you can. Blue magic is awesome) Aqua breath completely trashes some bosses,White Wind for insane healing, Lvl 5 Death allow you to farm AP from Objet de Art with no effort nor requirments, Big Guard gives everyone Protect+Shell+Float and more) ???? is good for 100% accuracy fixed damage, Aeroga, Level 3 Flare, 1000 Needles... Learning everything asap will make your life easier, trust me)

P.S. Death Claw!

yeah its just a boring way to play the game spamming control on everything or having everyone with learning and waiting for them to use every attack you think they have, to avoid that all you can do is use a guide 24/7...like I wanna play the game with classes and abilities I actually like lol. also I heard the level spells can be found later by using dark spark?

[yaypuff]

Blue Spells are not really missable yet may become "unavailable" for good portion of the game. Its usefulness comes from being in your arsenal sooner rather than later. Though late in the game there is a location where you can learn almost every Blue Spell from monsters.

Dark Spark is just a shortcut to so you do not have to grind levels as much. Instead of having to reach Lv-27 to learn Level-3 Flare. For example you can learn it while being Lv-25 and use Dark Spark to become Lv-12 (multiple of 3).

Try to learn the four types of Level-spells before you reach Lv-99. Since Dark Spark would only reduce it to Lv-49 which won't help you learn the spells.

[Nezkeys]

I heard the rapid fire dual wield was the best strat anyway so why would I wanna learn blue magic really

[Natzor]

Publicado originalmente por Nezkeys:

I heard the rapid fire dual wield was the best strat anyway so why would I wanna learn blue magic really

Mighty Guard and white wind for the most part. Keep in mind White wind ignores reflect if you plan on multi casting spells on your party.

[Tanaka Taikikku]

There's no point arguing. If you don't like blue magic, don't use a blue mage. The great thing about this particular version of the job system is, you can get away with (almost) anything. If you like to rapidfire stuff, just do it that way.

You need to keep in mind however, Lvl5. Death that is really nice for grinding AP about midway into the game, but for that you only really need to learn 1 spell and never touch blue magic again.

Death Claw is awesome is if you like to use the beastmaster class, it makes it really easy to catch monsters. It can be replaced with time magic though for similar results in that particular regard.

Big guard gives you all the relevant buffs to deal with some of the boss fights, but you can compensate with levelgrinding and still do it.

White Wind is one of the few ways to heal while under undead status (necormancer job or bone mail).

[Nezkeys]

ok ill look out for those spells in a guide but yeah I just don't like being on blue all the time just standing around waiting for random moves to be used on me without a guide, when its not a class I really want to use. In random battles phys classes are always better anyway and I don't really wanna run around with everyone equipped with learning for the whole game (which would be the most efficient way I'm assuming for getting blue magic)

[yaypuff]

Blue magic are mostly learned from random battles. If you see it and miss it then next battle equip learning and try for it. You could print out a list.

RapidFire is more for single-target in a freelancer setup. Each swing randomly targets an enemy. It needs good weapons and that costs plenty of Gil. To master both RapidFire and DualWield on a single character is a big ap grind in itself. If you want to grind for it then sure.

Physical and magic are good. It just depends on the area.

[Nezkeys]

Publicado originalmente por Dreampuff:

Blue magic are mostly learned from random battles. If you see it and miss it then next battle equip learning and try for it. You could print out a list.

RapidFire is more for single-target in a freelancer setup. Each swing randomly targets an enemy. It needs good weapons and that costs plenty of Gil. To master both RapidFire and DualWield on a single character is a big ap grind in itself. If you want to grind for it then sure.

Physical and magic are good. It just depends on the area.

1) "If you see it" (how are you supposed to know its blue magic without looking at a guide 24/7?)
2) "if you miss it then next battle equip learning and try for it".

to me both of these are just an annoying way to play the game if you are "maining" other classes. it means you have to consult a guide at every moment, and in every dungeon you have to stop and stand around with a skill on you don't wanna use until an enemy uses a move from the guide. Just isn't fun to me.