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Secret 2018년 3월 9일 오후 2시 30분
just to put the nail in the coffin..
again.. lasers are a stupid notion.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/asteroid-bennu-nasa-wants-to-use-nuclear-weapons-to-deflect-1600-ft-space-rock/ar-BBK2V5c

the laser cant actually work, so WHY are you trying to use them in a pseudo-educational game? why not "teach" them to pray or use their super saiyan powers (i mean if the solution is going to be nonsense that wont work anyways)?
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Secret 2018년 3월 12일 오후 2시 34분 
Strilter님이 먼저 게시:
I would like something more... realistic...

like what though?
YENDOR MOSREH 2018년 3월 13일 오전 1시 05분 
it is a game after all, and real dose not matter, games are ment to be fun, and if your not having fun it is a form of torture. so far i have had lot of fun outher than the odd nay sayer and party pooper, if your pissed about the state of the planet, i tell you to act IRL, acting out hear helps no one, but your own need for an ego boost, get a name by changing the real world . look if every person in the world changed only 1 thing then you would not know the planet any more it would be totaly diffrent so far i have changed a few things IRL
QC 2018년 3월 13일 오전 1시 34분 
Strilter님이 먼저 게시:
QC님이 먼저 게시:
Why not have us build a Launch pad for an Expedition to drill a hole in the meteor and blow it like a fire cracker or ICMB the crap out of it. Lasers do seem a bit to technical. Hell why we're at it why not get Bruce to do the expedition.

:D like the movie armagedon? also its ICBM lol but I would like something more... realistic...
Honest mistake you knew what i meant lol
Light-DelaBlue 2018년 3월 13일 오전 2시 26분 
X3 à sterile débat funny too see
Secret 2018년 3월 13일 오전 3시 02분 
YENDOR MOSREH님이 먼저 게시:
it is a game after all, and real dose not matter, games are ment to be fun, and if your not having fun it is a form of torture. so far i have had lot of fun outher than the odd nay sayer and party pooper, if your pissed about the state of the planet, i tell you to act IRL, acting out hear helps no one, but your own need for an ego boost, get a name by changing the real world . look if every person in the world changed only 1 thing then you would not know the planet any more it would be totaly diffrent so far i have changed a few things IRL

seriously, 1 person can only change so much. how far am i really supposed to go? should i move out of my house and into a cave? its NOT going to change the fact that all my neighbors own multiple suvs/trucks instead of cars.

in this game real does indeed matter, or so much of it wouldnt be based on reality. it does a fairly good job of showing that small scale sustainability IS possible and even desirable.. which just makes the stupidity of the ending stand out even more. its like if you were playing one of the grand strategy games based on real world europe in the middle ages, and you sink 140 hours into the game researching cavalry and politics and farming and at the end of the game the world is invaded by phantom lizards from outer space with plasma rifles and massive boners.
YENDOR MOSREH 2018년 3월 13일 오전 4시 33분 
all it takes is the right word at the right time, no work needed, you can change the world by changing the minds around you, the truth is a great way to start and Google Scholar is a great back up
Secret 2018년 3월 13일 오전 5시 09분 
YENDOR MOSREH님이 먼저 게시:
all it takes is the right word at the right time, no work needed, you can change the world by changing the minds around you, the truth is a great way to start and Google Scholar is a great back up

sadly thats not the case, its as big a crock as "beauty is on the inside" and "size doesnt matter". MANY people dont give things that much thought in the first place (i present to you pop music..), and many more arent willing to sacrifice the even the smallest thing for the greater good. in my case the minds around me arent capable of change.. they are for the most part stupid, pitbull owning, giant truck driving, garbage burning rednecks (and i dont even live in the south).

to be honest its just a naive way to see things. i have always pushed those i have been able to influence to act intelligently and strive for roles that would have an impact on society.. as far as i know they all hit puberty and go mental. from getting addicted to drugs and selling their moms vintage guitars, to stealing cars, crashing motorcycles into stop signs, and knocking up under age girls (all different people mind you).. and THOSE were the ones that showed actual potential!

i know when you are young everything seems possible, i know kids think freedom is not only real but important, and i know everyone thinks THEY have a purpose. its all nonsense though. the only solution to any problem is to first accept the rigid limitations that are in place, and yes, alot of them suck. case in point.. its not physically possible to shoot a giant meteor out of the sky with a laser! about the only thing we have really shot out of the sky with a laser are drones.. which are largely made of fecking plastic! its not even like we did this from 100 miles away mind you!

Zerkuron 2018년 3월 13일 오후 7시 06분 
What I find quite comical about the laser solution is something else. Even if we could build a laser powerfull enough to prevent the catastrophy, the amount of energy dispersed into the atmosphere would heat up the air quite substantially, because power requirements grow exponentially over distance in air. So by "nudging" the object outside the atmosphere "out of the way" you would bake everything inside it.
Secret 2018년 3월 13일 오후 8시 42분 
Zerkuron님이 먼저 게시:
What I find quite comical about the laser solution is something else. Even if we could build a laser powerfull enough to prevent the catastrophy, the amount of energy dispersed into the atmosphere would heat up the air quite substantially, because power requirements grow exponentially over distance in air. So by "nudging" the object outside the atmosphere "out of the way" you would bake everything inside it.

yea, its a plan brimming with impossibilities. the laser moving through the water particles in the atmosphere would create steam which would reduce the power of the laser too.

long story short: game needs a new/better solution.
straykaiya 2018년 3월 13일 오후 9시 42분 
Space magic...nuff said
YENDOR MOSREH 2018년 3월 14일 오전 1시 53분 
im not so shore any more that you cant make a laser that also has a resonance that vibrates the target, since they only just found out that dimonds can combine diffrent beams into one beam. strange realy that dimonds hold this proptery, they have been known for combining uses in marriges, to combine two lovers, strange. knowlage hiden inside old rituals, so what else can be piggy backed onto a beam of light , do you also know that a laser can be used to cool down a target, so then think about this, what happens when you heat and cool rock fast, it shatters right . that just might get used in a mining laser drill, remembering we dont know what alse can be combined into a laser, who is to say they dont invent a laser beam that also has electrons and or magnetics combined, now that would be so handy, on so many levels, ie beamed energy, a directed electron laser beam, you not only get cooked and frozen you also get electruted lol. nothing is imposable becouse, some smart person will make that mistake and invent it, who knows we might send matter in a laser, i wont say it is imposable becouse every time i do i get proven wrong, lol. think beam me up scotie, but send me your atoms 1 at a time and i will build an empire.
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Secret 2018년 3월 14일 오전 3시 39분 
YENDOR MOSREH님이 먼저 게시:
im not so shore any more that you cant make a laser that also has a resonance that vibrates the target, since they only just found out that dimonds can combine diffrent beams into one beam. strange realy that dimonds hold this proptery, they have been known for combining uses in marriges, to combine two lovers, strange. knowlage hiden inside old rituals, so what else can be piggy backed onto a beam of light , do you also know that a laser can be used to cool down a target, so then think about this, what happens when you heat and cool rock fast, it shatters right . that just might get used in a mining laser drill, remembering we dont know what alse can be combined into a laser, who is to say they dont invent a laser beam that also has electrons and or magnetics combined, now that would be so handy, on so many levels, ie beamed energy, a directed electron laser beam, you not only get cooked and frozen you also get electruted lol. nothing is imposable becouse, some smart person will make that mistake and invent it, who knows we might send matter in a laser, i wont say it is imposable becouse every time i do i get proven wrong, lol. think beam me up scotie, but send me your atoms 1 at a time and i will build an empire.

diamonds still heat up.. theres no way it wouldnt vaporize if you tried to push enough energy through it TO DESTROY A FRIGGIN METEOR. i dont think its surprising at all though that it can combine beans since prisms are known quite famously to split light.

for it to cool a meteor is also asinine, aside from the even more colossal amount of power needed you would need lasers from 6 directions (or 3 using mirrors.. meaning you would have to position mirrors around a moving meteor. at which point you may as well just fire rockets into the side of it to push it off course) to do it and its most likely going to have no impact on something the size of a meteor. they way you are saying it makes it sound like we have freeze beams, we dont.

there will be no beaming of people ever either.. the amount of data present in a human is profound. here ill just give you this link:

http://discovermagazine.com/2014/julyaug/20-the-ups-and-downs-of-teleportation

suffice to say "not going to happen".

as for smart people doing things.. generation tide pod aint gonna get us there and since we just lost stephen hawking you can officially consider the entire planet atleast 1% stupider.

7 billion people on earth less than 1 million are physicists. so look at a clock, the minute hand represents all the physicists on earth while the face of the clock represents all of humanity. until we solve that problem we can pretty much forget any meaningful progress. but by all means lets pump up those military spending budgets..
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YENDOR MOSREH 2018년 3월 14일 오전 4시 25분 
LOL dident all the great minds of today said elon musk was not going to build a space empire i remember them condeming him for it and saying it wont happen so far so good , i my self dont think humans deserve to leave the planet just yet . lets not forget the cars that cant exist battery just arnt that good lol, what. it is true, every thing is imposable. untill you learn how, its like that saying, its allways in the last place you look , thats true too, only becouse you stop looking after finding it, lol. nothing is imposable just becouse we can not do it now. next week things might change. and by the way when i mentioned the laser cooling and heating it is in referance to smashing rock not pushing it away and before condeming the power consumption use google scholer to look up how it works
YENDOR MOSREH 2018년 3월 14일 오전 4시 29분 
i am having a lot of fun playing this game and i look forward to seeing it finished
Secret 2018년 3월 14일 오전 6시 24분 
YENDOR MOSREH님이 먼저 게시:
LOL dident all the great minds of today said elon musk was not going to build a space empire i remember them condeming him for it and saying it wont happen so far so good , i my self dont think humans deserve to leave the planet just yet . lets not forget the cars that cant exist battery just arnt that good lol, what. it is true, every thing is imposable. untill you learn how, its like that saying, its allways in the last place you look , thats true too, only becouse you stop looking after finding it, lol. nothing is imposable just becouse we can not do it now. next week things might change. and by the way when i mentioned the laser cooling and heating it is in referance to smashing rock not pushing it away and before condeming the power consumption use google scholer to look up how it works

i already know how it works.. its not viable on a meteor. at all. again, the point was that you would have to position 3+ mirrors around the meteor (assuming you had 3 lasers instead of 6) opposite from the >>3<< angles you had the >>>3<<< lasers coming from, since you cant simply fire 3 lasers at it head on, they have to be at roughly 90 degree angles from one another. soo.. 1 from earth, 1 from the side, and one from the top. NOW assuming you went through the trouble of putting 2 lasers (in addition to the one on earth) in space and 3+ mirrors also in space.. why the hell wouldnt you just use the rockets themselves to >>>>PUSH the meteor off course?

again, lasers are just stupid for this. i cant even use the proper word because steam will censor it and people will cry about how "insensitive" i am, but this is orders of magnitude past stupid.

also, elon musk has a reputation as a charlatan, always has. nobody doubted his aspirations (or richard bransons) but what has he really done as far as building a "space empire"? its not like we didnt already have the space shuttles which went to space and returned to earth multiple times (or that he personally did anything but spend money..), hes done NOTHING new as far as space aside from being a civilian who won a government contract from nasa (which i may remind you was open to ANY takers as long as they could launch and land 3 times in a row). meanwhile virgin galactic has already built spaceport america and it sits empty in the middle of the desert.

https://www.virgingalactic.com/spaceport/

do you even comprehend what "impossible" means? do you know what physics are? there are LOADS of things that are infact impossible!! no amount of sunny disposition or youthful naivety is going to change that.
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