Maybe it's time to remove the anonymous mode?

[ttv/keykyntak]

Dear developers, why did you even make an anonymous mode in your game?
Why can't I see who I played against?
What kind of selective privacy is this when an anonymous person can view my profile, but I can't view his?
Maybe it was a cheater and I want to file a complaint against him not only inside your game, but also in Steam? Or just block his Steam profile.
A player's profile is PUBLIC information.
Do you even realize that this is used by the most disgusting players to remain completely unpunished and anonymous?
You didn't even think of making it impossible for an anonymous anonymous player to view other players' profiles, it's such a one-sided nonsense.
I haven't seen such nonsense in any game that you can't even see who you're playing against.

[Zero(the number)]

anonymous mode is mainly to stop stream sniping

[ttv/keykyntak]

Originally posted by Zero(the number):

anonymous mode is mainly to stop stream sniping

Streamsnipers use cheats to harass streamers, and it’s no secret that no anonymous mode can save you from this.
But the anonymous mode greatly helps disgusting players to remain absolutely unpunished.
In no normal online game is there such insanity when you cannot see the profile of the player you are playing with, only in DBD such nonsense.

[EkidonaLangley]

Anonymous Mode protects users from the insane psychopaths that play DBD that will stalk your Steam profile and harrass you outside of the game, as well as a minor effort to prevent Stream Sniping. If DBD players all agreed not to do that, then removing Anonymous Mode would be fine.

Unfortunately, most of y'all cannot control yourselves apparently.

[ttv/keykyntak]

Originally posted by EkidonaLangley:

Anonymous Mode protects users from the insane psychopaths that play DBD that will stalk your Steam profile and harrass you outside of the game, as well as a minor effort to prevent Stream Sniping. If DBD players all agreed not to do that, then removing Anonymous Mode would be fine.

Unfortunately, most of y'all cannot control yourselves apparently.

By this logic, then all players should be anonymous, because the chances of persecution of my profile are equal to the chances of persecution of the profile of a player who has made himself anonymous.

How can you stalk a Steam profile?
What's stopping you from applying the settings so that only friends can leave comments or making your profile completely private?

But in practice, everything turns out exactly the opposite.
A killer who has set himself to anonymous mode before the start of a match looks at the players’ profiles and if he doesn’t like someone for some reason, he already makes him a target for camping/tunneling and slugging.
Killer who set himself to anonymous mode, we play as dirty as possible, knowing that no one will even know who is behind such noob gameplay.

It should not be the case that an anonymous player can view the profiles of other players, since they cannot view his profile.
I repeat once again, I have never seen such nonsense with an anonymous mode in any online game as is done in DBD.
In any normal online game you can easily see who you are playing against, this is PUBLIC information.

[EkidonaLangley]

Originally posted by Страпонесса:

How can you stalk a Steam profile?
What's stopping you from applying the settings so that only friends can leave comments or making your profile completely private?

But in practice, everything turns out exactly the opposite.
A killer who has set himself to anonymous mode before the start of a match looks at the players’ profiles and if he doesn’t like someone for some reason, he already makes him a target for camping/tunneling and slugging.
Killer who set himself to anonymous mode, we play as dirty as possible, knowing that no one will even know who is behind such noob gameplay.

It should not be the case that an anonymous player can view the profiles of other players, since they cannot view his profile.
I repeat once again, I have never seen such nonsense with an anonymous mode in any online game as is done in DBD.
In any normal online game you can easily see who you are playing against, this is PUBLIC information.

When I play Battlefield, or Marvel Rivals, or Halo Combat Evolved, or Ready or Not, I don't have to worry about other players going to my Steam profile to leave "+/- rep" or other nasty comments on my profile. I don't have to worry about players looking at my profile to try to see how many hours I have played the game in order to try to use that to invalidate whatever I say about the game in case they disagree and have more hours in the game than I do. I don't have to worry about other players repeatedly sending me friend requests to try to see my profile or get into to my DMs, or anything else.

I don't have to worry about any of that because to the people that play those games, those games are JUST GAMES. Its not that serious to them if they win or lose. They might vent in the in-game chat, but beyond that nothing ever leaves and goes outside of the game. They don't act like their family is being deleted from existence if they lose, they don't act like insufferable snobs when they win. My name, and everyone else's name in the game, is just words on a screen. It never leaves the game. And that is how a normal game should be, and I have no problem with my name being public in those games.

However, in all of my years of playing games on Steam (and just online gaming in general, even prior to when I created my Steam account in 2011), Dead By Daylight is the ONLY game in which other players act in such an unhinged manner that I do actually use Anonymous / Streamer mode in the game. Dead By Daylight players, unfortunately, take everything that happens in the game, even just NORMAL GAMEPLAY, as some kind of personal attack. Winning or losing doesn't matter, these people will make their bad day your bad day. It does not just stay in the game. They take it out of the game. And THAT is a massive problem. So if you have a better system to prevent that than hiding my username from these people, then knock yourself out. But as it is now, the system currently in place works well enough to do its job.

[ttv/keykyntak]

Originally posted by EkidonaLangley:

Originally posted by Страпонесса:

How can you stalk a Steam profile?
What's stopping you from applying the settings so that only friends can leave comments or making your profile completely private?

But in practice, everything turns out exactly the opposite.
A killer who has set himself to anonymous mode before the start of a match looks at the players’ profiles and if he doesn’t like someone for some reason, he already makes him a target for camping/tunneling and slugging.
Killer who set himself to anonymous mode, we play as dirty as possible, knowing that no one will even know who is behind such noob gameplay.

It should not be the case that an anonymous player can view the profiles of other players, since they cannot view his profile.
I repeat once again, I have never seen such nonsense with an anonymous mode in any online game as is done in DBD.
In any normal online game you can easily see who you are playing against, this is PUBLIC information.

When I play Battlefield, or Marvel Rivals, or Halo Combat Evolved, or Ready or Not, I don't have to worry about other players going to my Steam profile to leave "+/- rep" or other nasty comments on my profile. I don't have to worry about players looking at my profile to try to see how many hours I have played the game in order to try to use that to invalidate whatever I say about the game in case they disagree and have more hours in the game than I do. I don't have to worry about other players repeatedly sending me friend requests to try to see my profile or get into to my DMs, or anything else.

I don't have to worry about any of that because to the people that play those games, those games are JUST GAMES. Its not that serious to them if they win or lose. They might vent in the in-game chat, but beyond that nothing ever leaves and goes outside of the game. They don't act like their family is being deleted from existence if they lose, they don't act like insufferable snobs when they win. My name, and everyone else's name in the game, is just words on a screen. It never leaves the game. And that is how a normal game should be, and I have no problem with my name being public in those games.

However, in all of my years of playing games on Steam (and just online gaming in general, even prior to when I created my Steam account in 2011), Dead By Daylight is the ONLY game in which other players act in such an unhinged manner that I do actually use Anonymous / Streamer mode in the game. Dead By Daylight players, unfortunately, take everything that happens in the game, even just NORMAL GAMEPLAY, as some kind of personal attack. Winning or losing doesn't matter, these people will make their bad day your bad day. It does not just stay in the game. They take it out of the game. And THAT is a massive problem. So if you have a better system to prevent that than hiding my username from these people, then knock yourself out. But as it is now, the system currently in place works well enough to do its job.

So what's stopping you from changing your STEAM settings so that only friends can comment?

If you get an offer of friendship, it doesn't mean you have to accept it.

BUT. Seeing who I'm playing against is NORMAL.
An anonymous player can see my profile and I can't see their profile. It shouldn't be like that.
If you are anonymous, all players should be anonymous for you as well.
Otherwise it's too tricky, you hide your profile, but you can see other players' profiles.

[Raft]

If you're not happy with anonymous players seeing your profile, you can also use anonymous mode.

If you don't want randoms to write on your public profile, that's about your profile settings, not anonymous mode. If anonymous mode players can write on your profile, so can non-anonymous players.

Anonymous mode gives me the freedom to play without the risk of harassment.

You can report any toxic/cheating players using the in-game report buttons. You do not need to see their names to do that. When you add evidence on your support ticket, you will give your in-game name/id. BHVR can track the 'anonymous mode' offender by reviewing your in-game reports. Anonymous mode players will be punished if they broke rules.

You have no reason to report someone on Steam when they have done nothing wrong on Steam. You have no need to see an anonymous player's Steam profile name.

There's nothing tricky about it.

[ttv/keykyntak]

Originally posted by Raft:

If you're not happy with anonymous players seeing your profile, you can also use anonymous mode.

If you don't want randoms to write on your public profile, that's about your profile settings, not anonymous mode. If anonymous mode players can write on your profile, so can non-anonymous players.

Anonymous mode gives me the freedom to play without the risk of harassment.

You can report any toxic/cheating players using the in-game report buttons. You do not need to see their names to do that. When you add evidence on your support ticket, you will give your in-game name/id. BHVR can track the 'anonymous mode' offender by reviewing your in-game reports. Anonymous mode players will be punished if they broke rules.

You have no reason to report someone on Steam when they have done nothing wrong on Steam. You have no need to see an anonymous player's Steam profile name.

There's nothing tricky about it.

Originally posted by Raft:

If you're not happy with anonymous players seeing your profile, you can also use anonymous mode.

If you don't want randoms to write on your public profile, that's about your profile settings, not anonymous mode. If anonymous mode players can write on your profile, so can non-anonymous players.

Anonymous mode gives me the freedom to play without the risk of harassment.

You can report any toxic/cheating players using the in-game report buttons. You do not need to see their names to do that. When you add evidence on your support ticket, you will give your in-game name/id. BHVR can track the 'anonymous mode' offender by reviewing your in-game reports. Anonymous mode players will be punished if they broke rules.

You have no reason to report someone on Steam when they have done nothing wrong on Steam. You have no need to see an anonymous player's Steam profile name.

There's nothing tricky about it.

I don't like the fact that anonymous players can do whatever they want while remaining anonymous.
I don't like that anonymous players can view my profile while I can't view theirs.
I am a decent honest player and I have no reason to hide behind the mask of anonymity.

What you write about “harassment” is a very big exaggeration.
It's enough to restrict the ability to write comments on your STEAM page only for friends and that's it, no harassment you are not afraid of.
If you are afraid of friend requests - you can simply not accept them, there is nothing scary or difficult.

BUT. Players should have the right to see who they were playing against.
Players should have the right to file a report not only within the game, but also on the STEAM page.
Players should have the right to add the STEAM page of a player they don't like to a blacklist.
Anonymous mode takes away these basic rights.
Moreover, anonymous players use the mask of anonymity so that their atrocities in the game remain absolutely unpunished.
A trivial example for you personally, a friend - an anonymous player on killer looks through the profiles of survivors before the match, sees that I am LGBT and because of that makes me a target for camping/tunneling or slag. And after the match he also writes “haha people like you should suffer” or something like that.
Do you think I feel unfair when I can't even add the STEAM profile of such a player to the blacklist and I don't even know who it was? Maybe I have mutual friends with this person who I would like to remove from my friends after such a situation?
And this is only 1 of MULTIPLE scenarios where anonymous players use the mask of anonymity to harass and atrocities within the game with impunity.

Anonymous mode is not about security, it can be achieved by trivializing STEAM privacy settings.
Anonymous mode is about impunity behind the anonymity mask and something needs to be done about it.

[chasing for hugs]

Originally posted by Страпонесса:

Maybe it's time to remove the anonymous mode?

Your post is about being mad at someone in a video game and trying to get back at them, while using a false narrative to justify it.

[ttv/keykyntak]

Originally posted by chasing for hugs:

Originally posted by Страпонесса:

Maybe it's time to remove the anonymous mode?

Your post is about being mad at someone in a video game and trying to get back at them, while using a false narrative to justify it.

No. What my post is about can be read in my post, as well as my answers to why anonymous mode should be removed from the game.
There is no reason for a decent player to hide behind the mask of anonymity.

[LethalTaco]

I would say an easy method is just to remove the ability for the player to view another's profile in game, cuts out the middle man as it were. Would this solve all the issues? no, will it solve your issue of being unable to see another players name? Not at all. However it would slow down people trying to harass others on this game by a large amount.

Also I don't see the issue of playing anonymously at all, I find it cuts down on stream snipping, harassment, hateful speech you name it.

[ttv/keykyntak]

Originally posted by LethalTaco:

I would say an easy method is just to remove the ability for the player to view another's profile in game, cuts out the middle man as it were. Would this solve all the issues? no, will it solve your issue of being unable to see another players name? Not at all. However it would slow down people trying to harass others on this game by a large amount.

Also I don't see the issue of playing anonymously at all, I find it cuts down on stream snipping, harassment, hateful speech you name it.

Friend, would you be kind enough to answer one simple question?
HOW can one pursue the STEAM profile of a person who has restricted the ability to leave comments to friends only and who does not accept friend requests from strangers?
What will they do to you or your STEAM profile if no one but your friends can leave comments and you don't accept friend requests from strangers?

Once again, anonymous mode players do not use it for security, for that there are STEAM privacy settings.
Anonymous mode is used by players who prefer that their misdeeds in the game would remain completely anonymous and unpunished.

It should not be that an anonymous player can view the profiles of other players, this is complete nonsense.
Since you have decided to be anonymous and are so worried about your own “safety” - why don't you respect the safety of other players and view their profiles?
Double standards?

[LethalTaco]

Originally posted by Страпонесса:

Originally posted by LethalTaco:

I would say an easy method is just to remove the ability for the player to view another's profile in game, cuts out the middle man as it were. Would this solve all the issues? no, will it solve your issue of being unable to see another players name? Not at all. However it would slow down people trying to harass others on this game by a large amount.

Also I don't see the issue of playing anonymously at all, I find it cuts down on stream snipping, harassment, hateful speech you name it.

Friend, would you be kind enough to answer one simple question?
HOW can one pursue the STEAM profile of a person who has restricted the ability to leave comments to friends only and who does not accept friend requests from strangers?
What will they do to you or your STEAM profile if no one but your friends can leave comments and you don't accept friend requests from strangers?

Once again, anonymous mode players do not use it for security, for that there are STEAM privacy settings.
Anonymous mode is used by players who prefer that their misdeeds in the game would remain completely anonymous and unpunished.

It should not be that an anonymous player can view the profiles of other players, this is complete nonsense.
Since you have decided to be anonymous and are so worried about your own “safety” - why don't you respect the safety of other players and view their profiles?
Double standards?

I can answer it, on a steam profile that's privated you may not be able to leave messages but you will still be able to use the report feature there it should be located on the far right of there name with a little arrow head, it leads to a sub menu that has a report function.

There are plenty of people who use it for security such as not wanting to be harassed or Dm'd by random players, not all players use it for nefarious deeds. Nothing wrong with wanting to play a game after a long day without being messaged by another player.

[ttv/keykyntak]

Originally posted by LethalTaco:

Originally posted by Страпонесса:

Friend, would you be kind enough to answer one simple question?
HOW can one pursue the STEAM profile of a person who has restricted the ability to leave comments to friends only and who does not accept friend requests from strangers?
What will they do to you or your STEAM profile if no one but your friends can leave comments and you don't accept friend requests from strangers?

Once again, anonymous mode players do not use it for security, for that there are STEAM privacy settings.
Anonymous mode is used by players who prefer that their misdeeds in the game would remain completely anonymous and unpunished.

It should not be that an anonymous player can view the profiles of other players, this is complete nonsense.
Since you have decided to be anonymous and are so worried about your own “safety” - why don't you respect the safety of other players and view their profiles?
Double standards?

I can answer it, on a steam profile that's privated you may not be able to leave messages but you will still be able to use the report feature there it should be located on the far right of there name with a little arrow head, it leads to a sub menu that has a report function.

There are plenty of people who use it for security such as not wanting to be harassed or Dm'd by random players, not all players use it for nefarious deeds. Nothing wrong with wanting to play a game after a long day without being messaged by another player.

For example, streamers use cheats to stalk them, and cheats don't care if the profile is anonymous or not.
Normal decent players without cheats will not be able to chase you in the game, because there is an in-game delay when searching for a match, in addition, the time to search for a match for a survivor and a killer is strikingly different, which makes it impossible to specifically track down and chase the same player.

If an anonymous player is so concerned about his safety - why does he look at the profiles of players who don't use anonymous mode?
Why would an anonymous player who is so concerned about his safety think that his safety is more important than others and look at their profiles?
This is a real double standard that says that anonymous mode is used not for security, but for absolute impunity for dishonest behavior in the game.

[Bloody Moon]

Originally posted by EkidonaLangley:

Anonymous Mode protects users from the insane psychopaths that play DBD that will stalk your Steam profile and harrass you outside of the game, as well as a minor effort to prevent Stream Sniping. If DBD players all agreed not to do that, then removing Anonymous Mode would be fine.

Unfortunately, most of y'all cannot control yourselves apparently.

This is correct, removing anonymity would mean harassing and shaming users outside the game and even on other social platforms.