Thoughts on "Shoulder the Burden" incoming new survivor ability Edited: I misunderstood perk discription . it should be neat to use it

[Elf On A Hook]

It states "Once per trial , given you're not on death hook , you can activate "Shoulder of Burden " before unhooking a survivor. When they are Unhooked , They lose 1 Hook state and you gain 1 Hook state, scream, and become Exposed for a brief duration." (retyping in case others read and hadnt seen or remembered what the new ability will do). Do you feel though might come in handy, it could be used often enough to be semi toxicly used . Like do you think it will become massively either toxic or annoying to lose hook state and be a 2 hook death or next hook you die just because someone is running it . or that everyone will kinda run it to steal someone else's unhook state so you're not stuck with death on hook and it will be a sort of dumb musical chairs game. (not being toxic or upset at or towards Dbd devs just wondering how others feel about this before hand. to me it seems itll be used in most nasty ways since some survivors already body block and purposely tea bag at hook versus unhook on worst days. though not every dbd game is such mess , fact most often its just typical work together survive together but on bad days can be bit off putting , i just feel this ability can add to more the few survivors that are already being more nasty then the killers ever are, which to me makes dbd less enjoyable on those games. tbh dbd is already a mixed bag of things when we have so many different players new old in-between , toxic , friendly , 2-hook killers and survivors who are worse then killer and then those who'd die to rescue a teammate w/o worrying about thier last hook and then those who hide and those who do as much as can for the team. so wondered what others felt or if maybe to early to thin kon it til its in play in game. hoping im over thinking it but idk .

[Branchu]

I'm kinda torn on it. I think it's only useful if a survivor with 0 hooks uses it on a survivor on 2 hooks. So pretty niche but great against early game tunneling.

In coordinated SWFs it's gonna be a nightmare. In solo it'll be so situational that you'll hardly ever see it. Still, I wanna try it with my healer-build.

[TTV Waldbrand]

Is it me not understanding what is your concern about or it's you not understanding how the perk works? When you run it and you unhook someone with it, YOU will have one less hook state (of two if killer catches you fast enough). The unhooked person will have one more hook states than usual. How on Earth is can be used in a toxic way? You literally gift your hook state to another person.

[TTV Waldbrand]

I think it's an awesome perk and it's gonna change the game. It's the new meta perk, I guarantee it.

[Elf On A Hook]

Branchu původně napsal:

I'm kinda torn on it. I think it's only useful if a survivor with 0 hooks uses it on a survivor on 2 hooks. So pretty niche but great against early game tunneling.

In coordinated SWFs it's gonna be a nightmare. In solo it'll be so situational that you'll hardly ever see it. Still, I wanna try it with my healer-build.

yea im torn as well . it can possibly be used kinda trolly , or as you mentioned as intended , but if not a swf and used we both know the unfornuate other survivor will most often feel they got the wrong end of the stick . so im kinda ugh feeling seeing it, i get it makes total sense with lore of the trained killer in cult ignored and put into survivors but still.

[Elf On A Hook]

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I think it's an awesome perk and it's gonna change the game. It's the new meta perk, I guarantee it.

sadly feels like itll be everyone needs run it or get messed over a hook state which is kinda why i dislike it making it a needed perk slot. totally feel those kind of perks are worst to force survivors to waste what they want to run versus what were told is new perk we kinda need to

[Elf On A Hook]

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Is it me not understanding what is your concern about or it's you not understanding how the perk works? When you run it and you unhook someone with it, YOU will have one less hook state (of two if killer catches you fast enough). The unhooked person will have one more hook states than usual. How on Earth is can be used in a toxic way? You literally gift your hook state to another person.

before unhooking a survivor. When they are Unhooked , They lose 1 Hook state and you gain 1 Hook state, scream, and become Exposed for a brief duration No from my reading this you use the ability then unhook someone you get thier unhook phase they lose one you gain one. unless im wrong with my reading it. if like you say then yes no issues. but if like i read it we gain one of their unhook phases then thats why i mentioned it could be used trolly . idk i do wonder how its ment now. given the new survivor was as lore states trained by a cult to be a killer in the fog but instead fog made them next survivor i thought it read way i read it idk now though . sorry if i read it wrong . thats why i wanted others opinions or thoughts because i was like trolly? or am i wrong on this

[Elf On A Hook]

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I think it's an awesome perk and it's gonna change the game. It's the new meta perk, I guarantee it.

if i read it wrong and its how you stated then ok no worries then, but for me since played since 2nd year of release dbd ive always liked how even with metas we could run or own make up of perks and typically do decent enough (less going hardcore either killer or survivor sweaty or 4ks) but as casual player we never had adhere to meta if chose run our own builds so i loved that with dbd. where as other games if didnt run meta or end game raid builds youd be left out and all. so when a game that has open play style makes a meta perk a need need use then were left with 3 open perks kinda leaves me bit sour feeling (that is if perk is how i read it , if its how you read it then no issues because it couldnt be used trolly or negatively like i read it ) hope that sorta makes sense why i worried about it . with my disabilities i very well could have misunderstood it which again is why i waned ask here to see .

[TTV Waldbrand]

Elf On A Hook původně napsal:

F ΐ n a l l у původně napsal:

Is it me not understanding what is your concern about or it's you not understanding how the perk works? When you run it and you unhook someone with it, YOU will have one less hook state (of two if killer catches you fast enough). The unhooked person will have one more hook states than usual. How on Earth is can be used in a toxic way? You literally gift your hook state to another person.

before unhooking a survivor. When they are Unhooked , They lose 1 Hook state and you gain 1 Hook state, scream, and become Exposed for a brief duration No from my reading this you use the ability then unhook someone you get thier unhook phase they lose one you gain one. unless im wrong with my reading it. if like you say then yes no issues. but if like i read it we gain one of their unhook phases then thats why i mentioned it could be used trolly . idk i do wonder how its ment now. given the new survivor was as lore states trained by a cult to be a killer in the fog but instead fog made them next survivor i thought it read way i read it idk now though . sorry if i read it wrong . thats why i wanted others opinions or thoughts because i was like trolly? or am i wrong on this

No worries, it's just the poor description of the perk that is easy to misunderstand tbh.
I played the PTB. So I can confirm that you actually gift your hook state to the person you just unhooked. The perk is super altruistic, just like 'For the People'. You unhook, you get that person's hook state, and you also scream and get exposed for some time. The unhooked person goes away like that hook was just a bad dream haha.

[Elf On A Hook]

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Elf On A Hook původně napsal:

before unhooking a survivor. When they are Unhooked , They lose 1 Hook state and you gain 1 Hook state, scream, and become Exposed for a brief duration No from my reading this you use the ability then unhook someone you get thier unhook phase they lose one you gain one. unless im wrong with my reading it. if like you say then yes no issues. but if like i read it we gain one of their unhook phases then thats why i mentioned it could be used trolly . idk i do wonder how its ment now. given the new survivor was as lore states trained by a cult to be a killer in the fog but instead fog made them next survivor i thought it read way i read it idk now though . sorry if i read it wrong . thats why i wanted others opinions or thoughts because i was like trolly? or am i wrong on this

No worries, it's just the poor description of the perk that is easy to misunderstand tbh.
I played the PTB. So I can confirm that you actually gift your hook state to the person you just unhooked. The perk is super altruistic, just like 'For the People'. You unhook, you get that person's hook state, and you also scream and get exposed for some time. The unhooked person goes away like that hook was just a bad dream haha.

ok then thats awesome and i like it haha, yea i dont play ptb so i miss out at times things. Thank you btw being kind and explaining it and mentioning ptb and knowldge of how its ment to be . way different then from how i read it (im glad ) but yea hard to discern a bit from reading it for me . i was like wow trolly but its nice . sorry if over typing but ty again .

[TTV Waldbrand]

Sure, no problem! Have a nice day <3