The gen increase base to 90 seconds is not needed

[Little Girl]

This is just making games even easier for killers and it's just more unnecessary time on generators for survivors making it more boring to play. The problem was that most killers didn't know how to spread pressure and keep track of gens, and play like bots and just follow what they see regardless of where they are. And there's endless amounts of gen defence perks in the game already like Corrupt, pop, scourge hooks, tremors, surveillance, discordance ect ect

Noed: hardly touched really, baby killers will still get their one kill with it.
Spine chill: Nerfed unnecessarily
Dead Hard: Gutted because of complaints but it's an important perk to have a chance of avoiding hits from high ping killers since it's server side validation.

BBQ and WGLF: Bloodpoints removed is a good change and i welcome that, often there was killers holding games hostage looking for that last bbq stack and you didnt want to give it to them because the team fed him easy kills, WGLF was bugged half the time and not giving stacks and was way harder than BBQ to get 4 stacks (almost impossible sometimes) BBQ was giving 4 stacks by just playing..

Unhooking enduarnce is way too short at 5 seconds and won't alter a desperate killers playstyle, you can just follow for 5 seconds and down them, most hooks are not close enough to a pallet or window either so 5 seconds should be double to 10 seconds if they wanted to discourage tunneling.

Buffs to perks like thanato which are not needed since long healing and slog matches should be discouraged.


I'm seeing alot more survivor nerfs here and alot that are unwarranted when the game is already very easy on killer side for good players. And i don't see any of the changes shifting a meta. Survivors are going to be bringing alot more tollboxes now and prove thyself for the longer gens implemented for no reason. Poor changes mostly with only a few good ones.

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/kb/articles/337

[BoBr]

Little Girl eredeti hozzászólása:

GIGACHAD GAMER ELITE eredeti hozzászólása:

It's heavily needed to be incrased to 100 seconds since you can't tunnel anymore.

How can you not tunnel? Please explain. You're counting to five after an unhook.

7% haste.

[MrGalactus]

Little Girl eredeti hozzászólása:

Edit: I just read the bloodlust change and my goodness literally just changes for helping baby killers im seeing but which indirectly massively make games even easier for seasoned killers.... It's already a massive crutch mechanic and they made it even better now for W holders...

yeah no, how many time a game does an experienced killer actually needs bloodlust 2 or 3. The change doesn't matter stop crying about everything

[feral]

Little Girl eredeti hozzászólása:

Edit: I just read the bloodlust change and my goodness literally just changes for helping baby killers im seeing but which indirectly massively make games even easier for seasoned killers.... It's already a massive crutch mechanic and they made it even better now for W holders...

at this point, it’s just saddening how much they disregard solo survivors..needless to say still no information about when will we got other than a Kill/Escape counter as MMR..

[Cosmo 🐲]

Little Girl eredeti hozzászólása:

Orion eredeti hozzászólása:

kinda looks like the devs and killer mains knew that the game was survivor sided, now its a bit more fair. have fun :D

And it's always one with low amount of hours saying that.

ᶜᵒˢᵐᵒⁿᵃᵘᵗ eredeti hozzászólása:

But it is...

The state of the game forces a lot of killers to tunnel

The survivors can win the game in 160 secs + travel time. (even faster with perks or toolboxes).

Example : I had a game this week, where they did 5 gens in less than 3 minutes.

In that short time the killer have to :
1. find a survivor.
2. catch up with the survivor.
3. break 3 palles and loops.
4. hit the survivor.
5. break 3 palles and loops (again).
6. down the survivor.
7. hooke the survivor
8. leave the hook to give the survivors a chance.
9. repeat this 3 times, just to get one kill. (more if the killer isnt tunneling)


Sadly i cant see any other solution to this than, tunneling just to secure some kills.
Im most games, kicking gens is pointless.

Generators take ~320 seconds to regress from 99.9... to 0 %. this is 4 times as slow as it takes to repair them. ( https://deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Generators?so=search#Damaging_Generators )

It takes 3secs to kick a gen.
The survivors just need to touch the gen to stop regression, it takes 0,1 sec to stop the regressing.

The survivors can go in 4 directions at the same time (because of 4 players), So they can cover the map 4 times as fast as the killer.

Dying on a hook takes 120 secs. ( https://deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Hooks?so=search#Hook_Stages ). So 3 gens can be done in the time someone is on the hook, and every survivor have 40 secs to spare.

The above calculations dosnt take account for the Toolboxes (that adds +50% / +75% / +100% to gen repair speed) Perks and Great skill checks that are boosing repair speed even more. And they can get further 20% and 30% speed with addons.

I am truly sorry survivors, but unless something is done about the gen repair time, and the regression, then i dont see this change.

And the more you fight this, the more tunneling and camping you will see.

You're going to be seeing more toolboxes now with this change and you can't blame them for that, it's the devs mistake.

How so, as far as im aware there can only be 4 in a game?
I often see 4.

- Anyway, with the Overzealous. I clearly see the advantage for the survivors.
With that change :

Gens will take 12,5% longer to do.

While gen repair speed with Overzealous x4 will be given a 32% faster to repair

Thats 19,5 % faster gen repair in the end.

On tops of that : Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance nerf, combined with the buffed Saboteur, pretty much ruins a lot of use for that perk.

Also the Lucky Break buff is insane. This WILL be the new meta.

[Jah'Raksha]

Someone eredeti hozzászólása:

Baby killers got everything what they wanted, what a surprise.

Its not for baby killers or survs. This changes for high mmr games
If u can't beat baby killer with incoming changes - u are baby survivor, so don't worry

[Vinnie Huxhold]

I think its safe to say that this is the most killer sided patch ever. I have never seen a patch that was this based on only one side.

This patch just proved my concern that they make changes by what baby killer mains say. Im afraid they will keep making everything easier for killer until the survivor community collapses.

[Orion]

Mr Campalot eredeti hozzászólása:

Orion eredeti hozzászólása:

yea i may have low hours but ive been playing dbd on and off since it was released, while keeping myself informed on a regular basis and im always at top rank for killer and survivor when i do play, doesn't take that long to get their tbh, all in all i know what im talking about.

So you play casually and have low hours but you keep up to date on everything and don't need experience. You have streamers or youtubers tell you their narrative of balance ect and therefore you're well informed? Ok

i dont watch youtubers on dbd updates and devblogs XD

[Cosmo 🐲]

Borisky eredeti hozzászólása:

I think its safe to say that this is the most killer sided patch ever. I have never seen a patch that was this based on only one side.

This patch just proved my concern that they make changes by what baby killer mains say. Im afraid they will keep making everything easier for killer until the survivor community collapses.

I disagree, did you try to do math on some of the new numbers?

[Doodbros]

I play way more surv than killer, but get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bro it doesnt even take that long to gens anyway lmao

[Vinnie Huxhold]

Doodbros eredeti hozzászólása:

I play way more surv than killer, but get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bro it doesnt even take that long to gens anyway lmao

90 seconds to finish a gen is absurdly long.

[60mph gorilla]

GIGACHAD GAMER ELITE eredeti hozzászólása:

Little Girl eredeti hozzászólása:

How can you not tunnel? Please explain. You're counting to five after an unhook.

7% haste.

Not to mention if the unhooker runs the BT perk then that gives the unhooked a 15 second bout of haste. No killer is going to waste their time with that unless that survivor really rubbed them the wrong way.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Borisky eredeti hozzászólása:

Doodbros eredeti hozzászólása:

I play way more surv than killer, but get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bro it doesnt even take that long to gens anyway lmao

90 seconds to finish a gen is absurdly long.

- Anyway, with the Overzealous. I clearly see the advantage for the survivors.
With that change :

Gens will take 12,5% longer to do.

While gen repair speed with Overzealous x4 will be given a 32% faster to repair

Thats 19,5 % faster gen repair in the end.

[60mph gorilla]

ᶜᵒˢᵐᵒⁿᵃᵘᵗ eredeti hozzászólása:

Borisky eredeti hozzászólása:

90 seconds to finish a gen is absurdly long.

- Anyway, with the Overzealous. I clearly see the advantage for the survivors.
With that change :

Gens will take 12,5% longer to do.

While gen repair speed with Overzealous x4 will be given a 32% faster to repair

Thats 19,5 % faster gen repair in the end.

Overzealous stacks? If so then ho boy

[Himechu]

ᶜᵒˢᵐᵒⁿᵃᵘᵗ eredeti hozzászólása:

But it is...

The state of the game forces a lot of killers to tunnel

killers already tunnel at 5 gens this isn't going to change anything but make the game hell for solo survivors lol

[glythe]

Little Girl eredeti hozzászólása:

Completely empty words

Your presence on the forum is not needed. You are a troll and only post incredibly one sided views about the game.

The devs literally said : kill rates are too low.