Remove Killer's Add-ons. (& Offerings?)

[Adoramus]

Reason:
(1)The add-on system was made for SURVIVORS. That works for them nicely, but is NOT for the killers.
(2)Hurts the balance. It is IMPOSIBLE to have real (or even close to it) balance in the game if there are such huge 'random' modifiers in the killer's powers.
(3)Huge difference between powers:
-(Unneded)Trapper is the most played, and strongest killer (by stats) and does NOT need any more power to his traps than he already has. Trapper with almost invisible traps what downs instantly. Or 3 traps in the pocket which takes 2 seconds to install. Compared to the basic, they are NEEDLESLY too strong.
-(Unwanted)In some other cases they are just not even good, like half Nurse add-ons.
-(A Must)Some killer like Wraith depends solely on the add-ons he uses. By default his power is just way too weak.
(4)Survivors MUST be skill based, not luck based. Like they know it is a trapper, but can not PLAN ahead, because they have no idea if the traps are maybe camoflaged or deadly (or even 50% deadly which by itself is a B.F. joke!).

Simply take away the Add-ons to have real balance! Like Wraith could be FINALY buffed a bit. He is weak cuz his add-ons are so strong. This is simply bulls***. There are so many other ways to longern the gaming time. As they may see if they would WANT to see, all the streamers and core players already have their characters at P3 lvl50 (at least the one they uses).
That's why the game is dieing. NO FCKNG proggres is being made, since release. The developers are just AFRAID of their bosses! That's clearly visible in every Twitch stream. The big bosses (all of them) does not even play the game. They do not make game. THEY make money. But they do not LET the true inventors work on the game. To balance it or something. They ruining their own game just because a good idea is NOT their's. So they ignore it and push it aside.
Want proof? Killer's offerings...

Bonus:
Killer's Offerings:
They Are a DISGRACE to the developers! What were they thinking, to give the survivors' offerings to the killers! It is an offense to ignore that the offerings are SO HORRIBLY poorly made.
-You want more darkness?
-Here! Have more points, which you unlocked for poins!
-More fog is what you need, yes?
-Oh you want to play on a map? I offer you a little higher random number to be put on the map from a random pool.
-Oh you are Nurse. I know what map you want to play. You love cornfields, don't you?
-Here.Kill the last survivor, for less points than you would have if you just hook him. He is the last anyway.
-You know this game is all about hooking, and slowly drain hope from the other players, while they try everything they can to outplay you and daredevil help their buddyes? Good, now forget all those and go unstoppably kill everyone, with no counter strategy available.

Killers should have by base a little higher chance to be put on their own map. Making more light is just NO!

I'm killer only by the way. (Not a salty survivor.)

[HerrKomm]

Originally posted by Tomoprof:

Originally posted by HerrKomm:

Fixed.

You are the kind of person who gets asked to leave in a bar.
Can't you at least point out what you DO or DON'T like in my post? Therefore making it better. You just offend the motivation of my post (FALSELY!) not the idea or the post itself. You are considered as a troll with nothing to give to the society.

Fine.

"(1)The add-on system was made for SURVIVORS. That works for them nicely, but is NOT for the killers."
False, addons are made for items, killers use items, therefore they have addons (setting aside the obvious fact that killer addons have been in the game since day 1), that they are "made for survivors" is your opinion which doesn't correspond to the actual history of the game. (all of this while setting aside the fact that SURVIVORS and not killers have the strongest addons in the game (4 brand new parts can end a game almost instantly with little to no effort, a killer has nothing that's even remotely the equivalent of that))

"(2)Hurts the balance. It is IMPOSIBLE to have real (or even close to it) balance in the game if there are such huge 'random' modifiers in the killer's powers."
False, since you can still balance games which have a lot of variables, if not pretty much any big competitive game today has to be massively imbalanced (since in many games you can't tell in game which characters/weapons/abilities or whatever other variables these games have people will use, and they might even switch (when possible) during the game itself)

"(3)Huge difference between powers:
-(Unneded)Trapper is the most played, and strongest killer (by stats) and does NOT need any more power to his traps than he already has. Trapper with almost invisible traps what downs instantly. Or 3 traps in the pocket which takes 2 seconds to install. Compared to the basic, they are NEEDLESLY too strong.
-(Unwanted)In some other cases they are just not even good, like half Nurse add-ons.
-(A Must)Some killer like Wraith depends solely on the add-ons he uses. By default his power is just way too weak."
-We do not currently have the stats of which killer is currently played the most, and you stating that he doesn't need any more power to his traps is just your opinion.
- If the addons are crap you make them better, instead of removing them
- If you have killers that require addons to be good, then it doesn't help your case that we should remove addons.

"(4)Survivors MUST be skill based, not luck based. Like they know it is a trapper, but can not PLAN ahead, because they have no idea if the traps are maybe camoflaged or deadly (or even 50% deadly which by itself is a B.F. joke!)."
Again you just merely stated your own opinion, since I think both should be a factor. Not to mention there is little to nothing that's "skill based" about playing survivor right now, unless you adopt the same position as many survivor mains that it takes "skill" to continuously run around in a circle, whereas I on the other hand have much higher standards than that.

And everything else was just ranting where you as pretty much everywhere else just stated your "opinion" and didn't give any solid "facts" (super LOL at the statement that the wraith's addons are "so strong"). This is why my initial response was simply stating how it is, since opinions do not need a rebuttal.

[Adoramus]

Thank you, kindly.
Now I agree with you in theoricaly. But in reality my point is the correct one.

[Wolf]

Originally posted by Tomoprof:

But in reality my point is the correct one.

No.
Just let this very bad suggestions drop into the nirvana called page 3, never to be seen again.*rolleyes*

[Avenamen]

alright...let's now make a hex totems for survivors which killer can destroy now :D

[Nemeswaos]

Looked up a bug and came across this and this aged like milk

[limierr]

Good idea let delete all killers addons to put them per default on the killer ! That way all survivors main will verse insta down huntress with 4 hatchet each game they see a huntress.
I give you my vote for becoming a développée .

[Adoramus]

What are you talking about? I was pure Genius, Jesus here. I called all changed 2 years ahead. I'm amaizing. Check out my killer ideas too, they made 2 of the 3 killers I've wrote about, years before they made them.

(1)+(2) <-- Still true to this day. Even devs accept, there is no balance in the game.
(3) <-- Devs did rework, Trapper, Wraith, add-ons completely. Also generaly addons are weaker and basic powers a stronger since than.
(4) <-- They implemented a lof of skill based stuff for Survivors since than. Like deadhard and others.
(+) -They buffed Wraith a lot.
-They were really held back why their bosses, and since than they paid 16mill$ to buy their own rights to the game.
-They did rework the proggression system.
-They did even out the add-ons strenght (mostly).
-They did remove the darkness and fog Offereings.
-They did fix the yellow Mori giving way less points than hooking the last surv.

You can not compare DbD today, to the version I was writing about.

[Nemeswaos]

I know you can't compare the two, that's why I'm saying it aged like milk. One is milk and one is cheese.

Edit: Reading back over it, you say that you're a genius but a lot of the addons in the game provide more random modifications to the killers powers then they used to. You're an idiot, not a genius. A lot of the addons didn't even get touched when they reworked addons in 2018, not a complete change. On the balance side, the devs have said that the majority of balance comes from perks, not from addons.

[Muriel]

kill killers.

[Lord Tony]

I bet BHVR would actually listen to this and nerf killers this bad.

If they do I hope all killers quit the game, we can't keep up against SWF as it is.

[Adoramus]

Originally posted by BUZZKILL1157:

I know you can't compare the two, that's why I'm saying it aged like milk. One is milk and one is cheese.

Edit: Reading back over it, you say that you're a genius but a lot of the addons in the game provide more random modifications to the killers powers then they used to. You're an idiot, not a genius. A lot of the addons didn't even get touched when they reworked addons in 2018, not a complete change. On the balance side, the devs have said that the majority of balance comes from perks, not from addons.

For Wraith and Trapper, which I mention in the post, do have a lot less randomness and almost all of the addons for Wraith and Trapper has been touched / reworked, so..yeah.

[mldb88]

Originally posted by Dr Tomo:

Originally posted by BUZZKILL1157:

I know you can't compare the two, that's why I'm saying it aged like milk. One is milk and one is cheese.

Edit: Reading back over it, you say that you're a genius but a lot of the addons in the game provide more random modifications to the killers powers then they used to. You're an idiot, not a genius. A lot of the addons didn't even get touched when they reworked addons in 2018, not a complete change. On the balance side, the devs have said that the majority of balance comes from perks, not from addons.

For Wraith and Trapper, which I mention in the post, do have a lot less randomness and almost all of the addons for Wraith and Trapper has been touched / reworked, so..yeah.

Thats what, 2 out of 20 killers? Removing all addons for killers just because of 2 of them is an awful reason. Most addons provide some versatility in playstyle and allow killers to mildly adapt to certain situations (for example Had using body bock fakes if she sees a team of megs with flashlights and knows they're just going to loop nonstop to block off chokepionts). Instead just make addons that vary those 2 killer's playstyles more. Removing addons would basically make killer so uninteresting as they'd all have one playstyle and thats it. Addons help keep the individual killers engaging by allowing slight variances in strategy outside of perks.

[Nemeswaos]

I dug up a post from 4 years ago and made it active again, what the ♥♥♥♥

[Adoramus]

Originally posted by mldb88:

Originally posted by Dr Tomo:

For Wraith and Trapper, which I mention in the post, do have a lot less randomness and almost all of the addons for Wraith and Trapper has been touched / reworked, so..yeah.

Thats what, 2 out of 20 killers? Removing all addons for killers just because of 2 of them is an awful reason. Most addons provide some versatility in playstyle and allow killers to mildly adapt to certain situations (for example Had using body bock fakes if she sees a team of megs with flashlights and knows they're just going to loop nonstop to block off chokepionts). Instead just make addons that vary those 2 killer's playstyles more. Removing addons would basically make killer so uninteresting as they'd all have one playstyle and thats it. Addons help keep the individual killers engaging by allowing slight variances in strategy outside of perks.

-When I made the post, the HAG add-ons were terrible and all got reworked since than. And we had about 6 killers, not 20. All got their addons completely reworked, cuz THE WERE BAD. (except the licensed Shape, cuz the legally not able to change him.)
-Also there is litteraly no variety that the addons should give in a balanced game. My post is about balance, not how fun or intresting the addons are. Point is, there addons back than were utter garbage or full-op.
-Furhermore, I would rather play a game where there is no 1 hit traps, no 1 hit hatchets, no damage for disabling a trap, no infinite EV3 Myers, no Wraith with 0 sound bell, and the list goes on. Also I would rather play a game where, there is no autolose if I don't have certain add-ons equiped. Like trapper's extra trap, or Wraith's decloack speed, etc. More fun in my opinion.

[Adoramus]

Originally posted by mldb88:

Originally posted by Dr Tomo:

For Wraith and Trapper, which I mention in the post, do have a lot less randomness and almost all of the addons for Wraith and Trapper has been touched / reworked, so..yeah.

Thats what, 2 out of 20 killers? Removing all addons for killers just because of 2 of them is an awful reason. Most addons provide some versatility in playstyle and allow killers to mildly adapt to certain situations (for example Had using body bock fakes if she sees a team of megs with flashlights and knows they're just going to loop nonstop to block off chokepionts). Instead just make addons that vary those 2 killer's playstyles more. Removing addons would basically make killer so uninteresting as they'd all have one playstyle and thats it. Addons help keep the individual killers engaging by allowing slight variances in strategy outside of perks.

There is litteraly no chance to adapt to perks as you don't see them, you can only see items, but even than, what add-on you gonna pick with the other 18killer, who just don't have anything to do with Flashlight, or ANY other items. As far as I know only Wraith and Hag has any surv item related add-on. What a garbage reason.
Just open your eyes and admit it, that the add-ons are in the game just to make you be able to spend bloodpoints other than litteraly throwing it out the window. Devs just simply did not come up with a better proggression system yet.