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PlagueGoBrr Feb 17, 2024 @ 6:51am
The 2 Survivors Problem
I had a couple of games like that so far where if there are only 2 Survivors left alive they just wouldnt continue playing the game. They refuse to go on gens and just hide on the map, walking so they dont get afk crows on them and just wait until the killer leaves the game. Without certain tracking perks it is impossible to find Survivors who just crouch in corners of the map
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Originally posted by Moderator EQ:
As this discussion was getting more and more out of hand, I am locking it here. Please remember to keep comments civil and respectful towards others. You are always allowed to agree to disagree, but insults and attacks on others or their comments is not ok.

To clarify some things here:

When two (or more) Survivors refuse to participate in normal gameplay (working on gens, getting into chases, etc) for a prolonged or indefinite amount of time in a match, that is considered holding the game hostage, and they can be given consequences for this behavior when reported. Killers that are playing the match normally are not at fault.

Secondly is holding a player hostage in a situation where they are prevented by the Killer or another Survivor from playing the game. If this occurs before End Game Collapse (EGC) and is more than a minute or two in duration, this is absolutely reportable as Griefing as well.

For both of these offenses, an in-game report is REQUIRED, and Support Ticket Optional, as noted in the Game Rules: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/139-game-rules

Lastly, I know "bodyblocking" often gets used to refer to the latter offense, but Bodyblocking, as it is mentioned in the game rules, is preventing another Survivor from being hit by the Killer, the Killer walking in a way to prevent a Survivor from getting past them while taking someone to a hook, etc. This is not a reportable offense, whereas holding a player hostage (as defined above), is.
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Scrambled onions (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 6:54am 
Not entirely true, if you notice they are hiding you can start checking lockers or bushes, think about where you would hide if you were in their shoes
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Crazy muffin Feb 17, 2024 @ 6:56am 
Go afk or do something else because its your fault as the killer if this happen to you. You kill them to fast so now theg fight each other to know wich one of them get hatch.
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Scrambled onions (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by Crazy muffin:
Go afk or do something else because its your fault as the killer if this happen to you. You kill them to fast so now theg fight each other to know wich one of them get hatch.
Don't listen to this guy, it isn't your fault if they are hiding its the survivors choice
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_source.tv_ (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:00am 
For devs problems killer the last thing about which they worry. Therefore just take penalty if you not ready be in hostages 60 minutes. Surely they can easy fix this, but they not have wish really help killers. It shame that such problem not get solution after so many years
Last edited by _source.tv_; Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:04am
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Scrambled onions (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by _source.tv_:
For devs problems killer the last thing about which they worry. Therefore just take penalty if you not ready be in hostages 60 minutes. They can easy fix this, but they not have wish really help killers
Since I see people throw around "taking the game hostage" a lot let me explain what it really means. Prolonging the game by artificial means ie. using cheats or exploiting glitches to make the egc infinite or impossible for survivors to complete generators (impossible gen builds don't count I'm talking about cheats that make it physically impossible to complete generators)
Camping slugging or refusing to do gens is not taking the game hostage
Last edited by Scrambled onions; Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:06am
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xTorvusx.TTV Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:05am 
usually I just go around the map, having a look around everything usually if you're close to a survivor they panic and run revealing themselves, also if you go pass lockers you can hear survivors breathing other option is to go afk for abit until they either do a gen or they go afk aswell in which case they get crows or they just come straight up to you seeing that you havent moved in awhile and now you can start chasing them right away
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_source.tv_ (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:
Originally posted by _source.tv_:
For devs problems killer the last thing about which they worry. Therefore just take penalty if you not ready be in hostages 60 minutes. They can easy fix this, but they not have wish really help killers
Since I see people throw around "taking the game hostage" a lot let me explain what it really means. Prolonging the game by artificial means ie. using cheats or exploiting glitches to make the egc infinite or impossible for survivors to complete generators (impossible gen builds don't count I'm talking about cheats that make it physically impossible to complete generators)
When survivors not try repair generators it taking game hostage
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Scrambled onions (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by _source.tv_:
Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:
Since I see people throw around "taking the game hostage" a lot let me explain what it really means. Prolonging the game by artificial means ie. using cheats or exploiting glitches to make the egc infinite or impossible for survivors to complete generators (impossible gen builds don't count I'm talking about cheats that make it physically impossible to complete generators)
When survivors not try repair generators it taking game hostage
It literally is not, let me say this again. Prolonging the game by artificial means is taking the game hostage, not doing gens does not fall into that category. If there are ways to prevent this using any perks it cannot be taking the game hostage
Last edited by Scrambled onions; Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:09am
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_source.tv_ (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:
Originally posted by _source.tv_:
When survivors not try repair generators it taking game hostage
It literally is not, let me say this again. Prolonging the game by artificial means is taking the game hostage, not doing gens does not fall into that category
Not agree
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Scrambled onions (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:09am 
Originally posted by _source.tv_:
Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:
It literally is not, let me say this again. Prolonging the game by artificial means is taking the game hostage, not doing gens does not fall into that category
Not agree
You can't just refuse to agree with a fact, it doesn't make it any less true
Last edited by Scrambled onions; Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:09am
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xTorvusx.TTV Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:09am 
Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:
Originally posted by _source.tv_:
For devs problems killer the last thing about which they worry. Therefore just take penalty if you not ready be in hostages 60 minutes. They can easy fix this, but they not have wish really help killers
Since I see people throw around "taking the game hostage" a lot let me explain what it really means. Prolonging the game by artificial means ie. using cheats or exploiting glitches to make the egc infinite or impossible for survivors to complete generators (impossible gen builds don't count I'm talking about cheats that make it physically impossible to complete generators)
Camping slugging or refusing to do gens is not taking the game hostage

so you wouldn't count a doctor body blocking the last survivor into a corner and just blasting them with shock therapy taking the game hostage would you? :steamhappy:
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Crazy muffin Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:11am 
Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:
Originally posted by Crazy muffin:
Go afk or do something else because its your fault as the killer if this happen to you. You kill them to fast so now theg fight each other to know wich one of them get hatch.
Don't listen to this guy, it isn't your fault if they are hiding its the survivors choice
Its kinda the killer fault honestly. Its because you kill de survivor so fast they decide to hide for the remaining of the time. The worst thing is nothing can be done about that exept doing something else and waiting for the survivor to emd the match and if you are still alerte you can try to find one of them if a gen get done.
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_source.tv_ (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:11am 
Originally posted by xTorvusx:
Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:
Since I see people throw around "taking the game hostage" a lot let me explain what it really means. Prolonging the game by artificial means ie. using cheats or exploiting glitches to make the egc infinite or impossible for survivors to complete generators (impossible gen builds don't count I'm talking about cheats that make it physically impossible to complete generators)
Camping slugging or refusing to do gens is not taking the game hostage

so you wouldn't count a doctor body blocking the last survivor into a corner and just blasting them with shock therapy taking the game hostage would you? :steamhappy:
Surely he not
Last edited by _source.tv_; Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:24am
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Scrambled onions (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:11am 
Originally posted by xTorvusx:
Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:
Since I see people throw around "taking the game hostage" a lot let me explain what it really means. Prolonging the game by artificial means ie. using cheats or exploiting glitches to make the egc infinite or impossible for survivors to complete generators (impossible gen builds don't count I'm talking about cheats that make it physically impossible to complete generators)
Camping slugging or refusing to do gens is not taking the game hostage

so you wouldn't count a doctor body blocking the last survivor into a corner and just blasting them with shock therapy taking the game hostage would you? :steamhappy:
1. If that happens it's their own fault 2. I'm pretty sure it doesn't count as taking the game hostage but it does count as body blocking which is bannable
Last edited by Scrambled onions; Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:12am
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A Generic Name Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:
Since I see people throw around "taking the game hostage" a lot let me explain what it really means. Prolonging the game by artificial means ie. using cheats or exploiting glitches to make the egc infinite or impossible for survivors to complete generators (impossible gen builds don't count I'm talking about cheats that make it physically impossible to complete generators)

It doesn't mean prolonging the game by artificial means. Taking the game hostage has several meanings in terms of DBD. Physically blocking a survivor in a corner is one example and isn't artificial.

According to the devs, two survivors hiding and refusing to do gens actually does fit the definition of "holding the game hostage" and is reportable. If people are hiding and not progressing the game, that's against the rules, both against the no "holding the game hostage" rule and the "refusing to participate in normal gameplay" rule.

OP. Report them, move on.
Last edited by A Generic Name; Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:13am
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