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Alex Eu Feb 11 @ 2:13am
why is spirit war hammer skin not avaiable in 2v8?
does it affect the gameplay? is this the reason
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Ruvik [GER] Feb 11 @ 4:25am 
License
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Alex Eu Feb 11 @ 4:35am 
Originally posted by Ruvik GER:
License
what does this mean?
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Shakes Feb 11 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by Alex Eu:
Originally posted by Ruvik GER:
License
what does this mean?
The AoT license-holder needs to agree to have the skins available for use with other killers, which was almost certainly not in their original contract with BHVR because 2v8 wasn't even in development at the time they were released. Basically, BHVR has to hire a lawyer to negotiate the terms of use with the owners of AoT or risk being sued.
Last edited by Shakes; Feb 11 @ 4:43am
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Alex Eu Feb 11 @ 6:36am 
Originally posted by Shakes:
Originally posted by Alex Eu:
what does this mean?
The AoT license-holder needs to agree to have the skins available for use with other killers, which was almost certainly not in their original contract with BHVR because 2v8 wasn't even in development at the time they were released. Basically, BHVR has to hire a lawyer to negotiate the terms of use with the owners of AoT or risk being sued.
why only killers? and not affecting survivors?
and is this an official statement?
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Elf On A Hook (Banned) Feb 11 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Alex Eu:
Originally posted by Shakes:
The AoT license-holder needs to agree to have the skins available for use with other killers, which was almost certainly not in their original contract with BHVR because 2v8 wasn't even in development at the time they were released. Basically, BHVR has to hire a lawyer to negotiate the terms of use with the owners of AoT or risk being sued.
why only killers? and not affecting survivors?
and is this an official statement?
yes what they posted is truth , survivors ie work as teams but killers in movies most liscence killers dont hence they would need permission for ever liscenced killers which non will agree to o least non have atm dbd posted this on your videos/website before yes
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Alex Eu Feb 11 @ 7:30am 
where can i see the statement?
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KolyaSmirno. Feb 11 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by Shakes:
Originally posted by Alex Eu:
what does this mean?
The AoT license-holder needs to agree to have the skins available for use with other killers, which was almost certainly not in their original contract with BHVR because 2v8 wasn't even in development at the time they were released. Basically, BHVR has to hire a lawyer to negotiate the terms of use with the owners of AoT or risk being sued.
Does that mean its also isnt a possibility to play with AOT skin as survivor? or it affect only Killer side(oni,spirit)
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Alex Eu Feb 11 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by KolyaSmirno.:
Originally posted by Shakes:
The AoT license-holder needs to agree to have the skins available for use with other killers, which was almost certainly not in their original contract with BHVR because 2v8 wasn't even in development at the time they were released. Basically, BHVR has to hire a lawyer to negotiate the terms of use with the owners of AoT or risk being sued.
Does that mean its also isnt a possibility to play with AOT skin as survivor? or it affect only Killer side(oni,spirit)
no problem with survivors but problem with killers
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Voodewcat Feb 11 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by Alex Eu:
where can i see the statement?

I'd like to see this confirmed as well.
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Wezqu Feb 11 @ 11:09am 
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/429733/some-licensed-killers-may-be-off-the-table-for-2v8

Here for those who needs to see the statement.
Last edited by Wezqu; Feb 11 @ 11:11am
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Mimimimi Feb 11 @ 11:10am 
I guess the agreement with license holders is (or maybe now was) that BHVR tells them what KIllers and Survivors can/will do in the Game.

Something like "Your Character will be on an Alien Planet, Castle etc. Map and do XYZ, fixing Gens and run away from the Killer. And the Killer is there, just to kill your Character and the other Survivors. And if a licenced Character now gets put in a very different Scenario that wasn't part of the agreement, i guess they could run into trouble cuz it wasn't part of the agreement.

Take the "My Little Oni Game" Mode for example, in which we coudn't even play licenced Survivors. Survivors there got shrunken down to like 1 inch. That's a very different Scenario compared to the normal game.

BUT speaking of My Little Oni...i have high hopes that we'll get a My Little Oni Game Mode with the AoT Skins in the Future that also let you try out the Skins and that they come back to the store.
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Wezqu Feb 11 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by Mimimimi:
Take the "My Little Oni Game" Mode for example, in which we coudn't even play licenced Survivors. Survivors there got shrunken down to like 1 inch. That's a very different Scenario compared to the normal game.

In that mode they changed the survivor models anyway as the heads were different from the original to make them more like bobbleheads.
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Mimimimi Feb 11 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Wezqu:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/429733/some-licensed-killers-may-be-off-the-table-for-2v8

Here for those who want confirmation.

Mathieu Cote is a cool Guy and a Master of Trolling. He basically said that we won't get Nemesis. And here we are. So we can expect Chucky in the Future as well and Myers with Haddonfield as a Map.

The only Killers we probably won't get anytime soon in 2v8 are Demogorgon and Pinhead. Netflix isn't doing anything with Crossovers, not even with Fortnite etc. and the Stranger Things Chapter never gets a Discount. And Hellraiser switched the Licence Holders. But who knows?
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Shakes Feb 11 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Voodewcat:
I'd like to see this confirmed as well.
I don't have a direct statement other than the link that has already been posted, this is just how copyright law works. The AoT skins are owned by some business/legal entity (I'm unsure of who exactly) and only they can dictate what others can do with it. BHVR has to agree to their terms, which are laid out in very complicated and specifically-worded contracts. If BHVR were to use the AoT skins in a manner not consistent with their contract, they leave themselves open to lawsuits. This means that both parties need to re-negotiate terms whenever BHVR wants to do something with it that wasn't in the original contract. This all includes a survival clause, which explains both parties' rights should one or both sides decide to terminate the agreement.

This is all on top of the laws that both parties must adhere to when creating said contracts to avoid issues with their respective governments and governments of countries that they are selling things in. Things get complicated quick, which is why the majority of businesses just hire a lawyer (or lawyers, for agreements between jurisdictions) that knows the law well.

I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice, just a shallow attempt to bring to light how complicated things can get.
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