DC penalty should be removed

[GrantBitman]

As long as cheaters can force DC penalties on legit players, Penalties should not be a thing.

I use to never face these scripted bots that hook everyone at the start of a match, forcing a penalty on everyone.

Now it's 1-3 times in 3 hours of DBD.

[dooteranopia TTV]

Originally posted by NotSam:

As long as cheaters can force DC penalties on legit players, Penalties should not be a thing.

I use to never face these scripted bots that hook everyone at the start of a match, forcing a penalty on everyone.

Now it's 1-3 times in 3 hours of DBD.

Weird, because in 1300 hours, I have never once seen a cheater. At least, not one as egregious as that.

[fitgirl-enjoyer]

Across most of multiplayer games DC penalty is a standard that prevents certain players to queue It's good for security, secondly scripted bots are actual players who cheat in the game no 2v8 scripted killer bot can technically be this op xd

[Stroggs]

Originally posted by NotSam:

You don't know what other players will do.

Oh I know, we all know. DC penalties were disabled once, when there were troubles with something. Every, I mean EVERY game had someone who leave.

[GrantBitman]

Originally posted by Stroggs:

Originally posted by NotSam:

You don't know what other players will do.

Oh I know, we all know. DC penalties were disabled once, when there were troubles with something. Every, I mean EVERY game had someone who leave.

You say players will leave matches if they lift the DC penalty, what do you have to say about DC penalty being forced on innocent players ? It needs a solution.

[Crazy muffin]

You dont want DC penalty to be remove. Every match you will have a survivor that DC making every match boring. A teamate DC why stay in the match nothing stop you from leaving.

[dooteranopia TTV]

Originally posted by NotSam:

Originally posted by Stroggs:

Oh I know, we all know. DC penalties were disabled once, when there were troubles with something. Every, I mean EVERY game had someone who leave.

You say players will leave matches if they lift the DC penalty, what do you have to say about DC penalty being forced on innocent players ? It needs a solution.

So, in your opinion, the fix for something that almost never happens should be to remove something that makes the game better for everyone? If you rarely/never disconnect, then even if you were disconnected by a hacker, you wouldn't get much of a penalty. And if you disconnect often, well then that is the problem, not the rare hacker (which again, I've never seen in 1300 hours) adding to it.

To clarify, hacking is a problem if it happens. But unless you are already disconnecting regularly, it should not be more than a minor inconvenience.

[GrantBitman]

Originally posted by dooteranopia TTV:

So, in your opinion, the fix for something that almost never happens should be to remove something that makes the game better for everyone? If you rarely/never disconnect, then even if you were disconnected by a hacker, you wouldn't get much of a penalty. And if you disconnect often, well then that is the problem, not the rare hacker (which again, I've never seen in 1300 hours) adding to it.

To clarify, hacking is a problem if it happens. But unless you are already disconnecting regularly, it should not be more than a minor inconvenience.

No, the ideal fix would be to stop cheaters from having their killers move before the match even starts and hook everyone in 5 seconds, what's anti cheat for exactly ?

If taking away the DC penalty is not an option, than they should really try hard to stop the more egregious kind of cheats which shouldn't be hard to detect but i don't know anything.

[dooteranopia TTV]

Originally posted by NotSam:

Originally posted by dooteranopia TTV:

So, in your opinion, the fix for something that almost never happens should be to remove something that makes the game better for everyone? If you rarely/never disconnect, then even if you were disconnected by a hacker, you wouldn't get much of a penalty. And if you disconnect often, well then that is the problem, not the rare hacker (which again, I've never seen in 1300 hours) adding to it.

To clarify, hacking is a problem if it happens. But unless you are already disconnecting regularly, it should not be more than a minor inconvenience.

No, the ideal fix would be to stop cheaters from having their killers move before the match even starts and hook everyone in 5 seconds, what's anti cheat for exactly ?

If taking away the DC penalty is not an option, than they should really try hard to stop the more egregious kind of cheats which shouldn't be hard to detect but i don't know anything.

So why is the post "DC penalty should be removed" and not "Behaviour, please do something about these hackers" then?

[gun goes pew pew]

no thanks, i like my 1hour timeouts, but yeah, getting a DC penalty because of a cheater ending the game in less than a minute is simply ridiculous, devs should fix that already

[Donut]

While i understand your frustration its also important to remember that when you talk about nerfs/buffs or in this case the addition/removal of certain features, you first have to take into account of how it will effect the community as a whole (not just you), Currently cheating is a pretty rough plague with the devs still not really acknowledging they need a fix, However removing the DC penalty is not the solution for this

As of the past maybe 4-5 months? DCing has become far more prominent as players weigh their experience vs the penalty and often find they'd rather be in a penalty than have to deal with "insert any reason" whether it be petty or justified its still selfish and annoying, However removing said penalty would only encourage players to leave far more often then they already are, as they will no longer need to worry about penalties or any consequence which means you would need to be expecting 1-3 dcs every match if they made your change, That is not fun

Rather than removing a mechanic that obviously needs to be implemented to be far harsher, they should also just add an anti-cheat that actually works, they know it doesn't work, the community knows it doesn't work, So they need to just fix it

Originally posted by dooteranopia TTV:

Weird, because in 1300 hours, I have never once seen a cheater. At least, not one as egregious as that.

Been playing on and off since 2016, i've encountered a total of two cheaters, one back in 2019 and one a couple of weeks ago, Cheating seems is definitely more targeted towards high viewed streamers (Otz, Hens, Ayrun, etc) rather than the average player base/low viewed streamers, They can still appear but between region and time, its pretty rare, To my knowledge it seems Europe has the biggest cheating problem followed by Asia then the US (east)

[KrakenGreywolf]

I said this in another thread-but the system should not count an AFK DC if a match lasted a minute or less and ended with a 4k. There has to be a way to put a system in place that would do that. Clearly, that is not a normal match.

I’ll also say: In addition-those matches should be flagged by the system-and if enough people are reporting the killer in said match for cheating-and at least one person sends in video evidence of said cheating-hardware ban them. Obviously the most dedicated cheaters can get around a hardware ban too-but I’d think it’d take more effort and expense on their part than an account ban.

Maybe eventually, they’d get tired and go do something else with their lives. I can’t imagine deriving joy from cheating in a video game. Exploiting things devs haven’t patched can be fun/funny in single player games-but even in single player games, my “cheating” has never gone beyond that-I simply don’t “get” it.

I miss the cheaters who’d do silly/ridiculous/creepy stuff. Now we just have insta-death-hook Nurse.

[orch82]

So you havent seen the subtle cheaters. See dc penalty needs to stay even if there is cheaters. If you give no dc penalty people will lobby shop. Dont like the map dc. Dont like the killer dc. if peoples map offering get overrided dc.

[Sethiegamer056]

Let's remove DC penalty so everytime i face a blight/nurse/billy/skull merchant i instantly disconnect, but hey, it's because of the cheaters, trust me

[TERRØR♕]

Originally posted by NotSam:

As long as cheaters can force DC penalties on legit players, Penalties should not be a thing.

I use to never face these scripted bots that hook everyone at the start of a match, forcing a penalty on everyone.

Now it's 1-3 times in 3 hours of DBD.

Had the same problem but happened right now and didint get dc pentalty , maybe they fixed it

[Raft]

Originally posted by KrakenGreywolf:

I said this in another thread-but the system should not count an AFK DC if a match lasted a minute or less and ended with a 4k. There has to be a way to put a system in place that would do that. Clearly, that is not a normal match.

Agree. AFK and DC should be automatically penalized but it needed to be fine-tuned to prevent cheaters from using it against innocent players.

I'm still getting report feedback on cheaters regularly. Latest one was just yesterday:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3433985495