Nerf Ghoul in 3 easy steps

[Noodle]

One: Make Kagune leap NOT free damage, have him land it then after becoming enraged can do damage and loses enrage as soon as he downs as survivor.

two: Make Kagune leap a projectile not hit scan

three: Give huge slow down similar to legion when leaving Kagune leap for 3-4 seconds to prevent mid leap cancelling into M1

Option 4 (best option): Get rid of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ killer

Off note: I do a lot of killer most of my 130 hours are killer on xenomorph only doing survivor with friends when they wanna play and killers like this will KILL the game, we don't need more S tier trash in this game to ruin it when the FNAF update drops and kill off EVERY new player, personally I think the top killers should be taken out of play when the FNAF update drops to let new players have fun...

[TERMINETOR_X]

no

[fwhite0782]

BHVR knows what they are doing. Put out an S tier killer that needs no skill to get creators telling people to get in and feel good with some easy mode wins. On the outside is adding anime to the game which draws the weeb dollars in hopes they can get a killer from their favorite anime. Ghoul isn't going to be touched for at least 6 months. He is too easy mode and gets sales for weebs and people wanting to feel powerful with little time investment. The weebs are on Reddit talking about some Orochi guy from Naruto would be cool as a killer.

[Noodle]

Originally posted by fwhite0782:

BHVR knows what they are doing. Put out an S tier killer that needs no skill to get creators telling people to get in and feel good with some easy mode wins. On the outside is adding anime to the game which draws the weeb dollars in hopes they can get a killer from their favorite anime. Ghoul isn't going to be touched for at least 6 months. He is too easy mode and gets sales for weebs and people wanting to feel powerful with little time investment.

Literal facts, so much it is like RPD launch again back when I was on console, time to uninstall till fixed

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[stuck in gold in Jerkmate ranked]

Originally posted by Noodle:

One: Make Kagune leap NOT free damage, have him land it then after becoming enraged can do damage and loses enrage as soon as he downs as survivor.

two: Make Kagune leap a projectile not hit scan

three: Give huge slow down similar to legion when leaving Kagune leap for 3-4 seconds to prevent mid leap cancelling into M1

Option 4 (best option): Get rid of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ killer

Off note: I do a lot of killer most of my 130 hours are killer on xenomorph only doing survivor with friends when they wanna play and killers like this will KILL the game, we don't need more S tier trash in this game to ruin it when the FNAF update drops and kill off EVERY new player, personally I think the top killers should be taken out of play when the FNAF update drops to let new players have fun...

Terrible ideas and heres why:

1.) That would utterly obliterate his mobility since the 3 leaps are what makes him good, 2 leaps doesn't go too far. Just mend and you wont have an issue.

2.) His Kagune isn't a projectile in the anime and manga nor would it make any sense, so that wouldn't work.

3.) He already has a cooldown both when he lands and hits a survivor with his kagune.

4.) No hes goated.

[ThePlayzPaidOff]

Originally posted by Noodle:

Originally posted by fwhite0782:

BHVR knows what they are doing. Put out an S tier killer that needs no skill to get creators telling people to get in and feel good with some easy mode wins. On the outside is adding anime to the game which draws the weeb dollars in hopes they can get a killer from their favorite anime. Ghoul isn't going to be touched for at least 6 months. He is too easy mode and gets sales for weebs and people wanting to feel powerful with little time investment.

Literal facts, so much it is like RPD launch again back when I was on console, time to uninstall till fixed

He isn't S tier. Only Nurse is, get with the program gramps.

[Raineh Daze]

The degree to which idea 3 is terrible is amazing. "Please get rid of any potential skill ceiling in this Killer and remove their ability to use their power for anything except the first hit and crossing distance"? Literally trying to make Legion but more steps, aren't you?

If you want non-insane nerfs: reduce the targeting area (both because it's enormous and it makes it impossible to aim past survivors, so it kind of limits skill in both directions); make the damage-grab a bit shorter range (but not the mobility one).

[ThePlayzPaidOff]

Originally posted by Noodle:

One: Make Kagune leap NOT free damage, have him land it then after becoming enraged can do damage and loses enrage as soon as he downs as survivor.

two: Make Kagune leap a projectile not hit scan

three: Give huge slow down similar to legion when leaving Kagune leap for 3-4 seconds to prevent mid leap cancelling into M1

Option 4 (best option): Get rid of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ killer

Off note: I do a lot of killer most of my 130 hours are killer on xenomorph only doing survivor with friends when they wanna play and killers like this will KILL the game, we don't need more S tier trash in this game to ruin it when the FNAF update drops and kill off EVERY new player, personally I think the top killers should be taken out of play when the FNAF update drops to let new players have fun...

I don't think they should change him really. He is good where he is. He does get a quick hit, however after this he is a M1 killer if the survivor has proper movement and understands tile sets resulting in potentially long chases.

There is a slowdown after leaving Kagune leap, it is just dangerous enough to actually be something to consider when in chase by both sides. By Him because it can easily make him miss loop timing, and by surviviors as it can decide if the survivior is hit. It is in a great place in my opinion. Any more slowdown and it will feel awkward, and any less and it will result in it feeling too versatile.

Lastly, getting rid of the killer is a terrible suggestion. Whut was the point in doing the work to put him in the game just to get rid of him... and again he is in a good place.

[Noodle]

Originally posted by stuck in gold in Jerkmate ranked:

Originally posted by Noodle:

One: Make Kagune leap NOT free damage, have him land it then after becoming enraged can do damage and loses enrage as soon as he downs as survivor.

two: Make Kagune leap a projectile not hit scan

three: Give huge slow down similar to legion when leaving Kagune leap for 3-4 seconds to prevent mid leap cancelling into M1

Option 4 (best option): Get rid of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ killer

Off note: I do a lot of killer most of my 130 hours are killer on xenomorph only doing survivor with friends when they wanna play and killers like this will KILL the game, we don't need more S tier trash in this game to ruin it when the FNAF update drops and kill off EVERY new player, personally I think the top killers should be taken out of play when the FNAF update drops to let new players have fun...

Terrible ideas and heres why:

1.) That would utterly obliterate his mobility since the 3 leaps are what makes him good, 2 leaps doesn't go too far. Just mend and you wont have an issue.

2.) His Kagune isn't a projectile in the anime and manga nor would it make any sense, so that wouldn't work.

3.) He already has a cooldown both when he lands and hits a survivor with his kagune.

4.) No hes goated.

bro doesn't understand what I am saying at all thanks for useless input

[Noodle]

Originally posted by ThePlayzPaidOff:

Originally posted by Noodle:

One: Make Kagune leap NOT free damage, have him land it then after becoming enraged can do damage and loses enrage as soon as he downs as survivor.

two: Make Kagune leap a projectile not hit scan

three: Give huge slow down similar to legion when leaving Kagune leap for 3-4 seconds to prevent mid leap cancelling into M1

Option 4 (best option): Get rid of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ killer

Off note: I do a lot of killer most of my 130 hours are killer on xenomorph only doing survivor with friends when they wanna play and killers like this will KILL the game, we don't need more S tier trash in this game to ruin it when the FNAF update drops and kill off EVERY new player, personally I think the top killers should be taken out of play when the FNAF update drops to let new players have fun...

I don't think they should change him really. He is good where he is. He does get a quick hit, however after this he is a M1 killer if the survivor has proper movement and understands tile sets resulting in potentially long chases.

There is a slowdown after leaving Kagune leap, it is just dangerous enough to actually be something to consider when in chase by both sides. By Him because it can easily make him miss loop timing, and by surviviors as it can decide if the survivior is hit. It is in a great place in my opinion. Any more slowdown and it will feel awkward, and any less and it will result in it feeling too versatile.

Lastly, getting rid of the killer is a terrible suggestion. Whut was the point in doing the work to put him in the game just to get rid of him... and again he is in a good place.

You can literally cancel Kagune leap mid air which completely removes the entire slow down, but I can tell you're new to the game so I forgive you.

[HeHateMe]

This killer is severely overpowered

[ThePlayzPaidOff]

Originally posted by Noodle:

You can literally cancel Kagune leap mid air which completely removes the entire slow down, but I can tell you're new to the game so I forgive you.

Hm, if only people could do a simple look up. Nothing says new like thousands of hours.
(And what you are talking about still slows him, enough to make a major difference. Lol.)

[Calhoun]

I agree with OP, this killer is, without exaggerating, the lowest skill cap to a killer I've ever seen. There's nothing that can justify the distance that he can cover without a significant drawback (Which, there is not). I would prefer to feel basement bubba, the plague, or even pre-nerfed nurse over this sorry excuse of a weeb killer. It's crazy that this is what left public beta.

[Noodle]

Originally posted by Calhoun:

I agree with OP, this killer is, without exaggerating, the lowest skill cap to a killer I've ever seen. There's nothing that can justify the distance that he can cover without a significant drawback (Which, there is not). I would prefer to feel basement bubba, the plague, or even pre-nerfed nurse over this sorry excuse of a weeb killer. It's crazy that this is what left public beta.

legit and all these people saying "the skill ceiling" for the killer like there is ANY at all when the killer gives free damage for 0 effort and mobility that kills you if they decide to insta break a pallet

[NiueCA]

i think they should just make it so you dont get enrage/refill until you hit 2-3 kagunes and fine tune the hitbox a little. or maybe make enrage run down a bit faster with each leap