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Cryptid Apr 18, 2023 @ 10:29pm
How does mmr work
I just played my first game, got a ghostface and was really excited to see how the game plays out, only to find out he was a prestige 20 ghostface with all purple perks (I only have one) and a pink item with a mori. My 3 other survivors were also very new
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Dunkler Messias Apr 18, 2023 @ 10:38pm 
Players can lower their MMR on purpose while being afk or camping at hooks, but not sacrificing them, ...
Also, if there are not enough players, the game will put you in a lobby with higher/lower MMR than you.
Cryptid Apr 18, 2023 @ 10:54pm 
Originally posted by Dunkler Messias:
Players can lower their MMR on purpose while being afk or camping at hooks, but not sacrificing them, ...
Also, if there are not enough players, the game will put you in a lobby with higher/lower MMR than you.
Id rather just wait the extra time to find someone, not fun getting tbagged until I bleed out
miketheratguy (Banned) Apr 18, 2023 @ 10:56pm 
One thing to keep in mind is that prestige numbers and perk tiers don't necessarily indicate skill, they only indicate that the person has been playing for a while. For example I could lose 100 matches straight yet still take the bloodpoints I earned and be the person who raises his Ghostface to level 20, even if I've never used him before. I could even have gotten all those bloodpoints as survivor without ever having touched a single killer. It's similar with perks: once you've prestiged a character three times their full tier 3 (purple) perks become available for all other killers, meaning that someone who's never touched a killer before and might totally suck with them can still go into a match with fully maxed-out perks.

Bottom line: while the numbers may look intimidating they actually don't directly mean that the player who's got them is actually good / high MMR. Indirectly it's a possibility, since they HAVE been playing for a while, but again, players prestige with bloodpoints and bloodpoints are earned even when losing.
Maverick (Banned) Apr 18, 2023 @ 11:02pm 
Originally posted by Rosalinee ❥:
I just played my first game, got a ghostface and was really excited to see how the game plays out, only to find out he was a prestige 20 ghostface with all purple perks (I only have one) and a pink item with a mori. My 3 other survivors were also very new
Not saying this is the case with this ghostface, but ignore prestige numbers. They mean nothing and are easily hacked. The day after the prestige system overhaul, you were seeing all sorts of impossibly high P numbers, including P100. And yeah, you can also pour bloodpoints into killers you never play as and raise their prestige. Depending on what time of day you played, there may have also been a shortage of killers. The matchmaking is notorious for being janky.
Last edited by Maverick; Apr 18, 2023 @ 11:03pm
Cryptid Apr 18, 2023 @ 11:10pm 
Originally posted by miketheratguy:
One thing to keep in mind is that prestige numbers and perk tiers don't necessarily indicate skill, they only indicate that the person has been playing for a while. For example I could lose 100 matches straight yet still take the bloodpoints I earned and be the person who raises his Ghostface to level 20, even if I've never used him before. I could even have gotten all those bloodpoints as survivor without ever having touched a single killer. It's similar with perks: once you've prestiged a character three times their full tier 3 (purple) perks become available for all other killers, meaning that someone who's never touched a killer before and might totally suck with them can still go into a match with fully maxed-out perks.

Bottom line: while the numbers may look intimidating they actually don't directly mean that the player who's got them is actually good / high MMR. Indirectly it's a possibility, since they HAVE been playing for a while, but again, players prestige with bloodpoints and bloodpoints are earned even when losing.
I see, well whoever the ghostface was clearly knew what he was doing has us all dead before we could get 2 generators done
Spud the Spud Apr 18, 2023 @ 11:49pm 
Originally posted by Rosalinee ❥:
I see, well whoever the ghostface was clearly knew what he was doing has us all dead before we could get 2 generators done

This will happen sometimes, and it's not always because the killer is good. Sometimes your team is just awful. I had one team the other day who, all 3 of them, just kept swarming him whenever he got one, so he ended up hooking one with the other two injured...then hooking another...then the third. I tried to get in there and help unhook and break things up...which helped for a moment (but nobody was doing gens at the time). Then my team immediately threw themselves onto the killer again as soon as they were healed up. Not like they were suiciding, they were just awful.

So don't let it get to you, sometimes it happens, move on to the next match. It happens to everyone, and has no single clear cause.
Ethereal Haunting Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:24am 
When first playing, the game just throws you against whoever to help benchmark and manage your starting MMR - so yeah your first few games will definitely be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
After that it should get a bit more balanced, but the matchmaking favours speed over accuracy so.. yeah, for a while you'll probably still get stomped unless also some brand new killers readying up at the exact time you are.
Last edited by Ethereal Haunting; Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:25am
Sewerbat Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:44am 
if you want my most honest and professional opinion about MMR, i can summerize and say that to you in 1-3 words, it's a "fantasy"

like miketheratguy said, people can lower it. so you'll go back to my little word there.
Mors_Indecepta Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:52am 
Originally posted by Rosalinee ❥:
Originally posted by Dunkler Messias:
Players can lower their MMR on purpose while being afk or camping at hooks, but not sacrificing them, ...
Also, if there are not enough players, the game will put you in a lobby with higher/lower MMR than you.
Id rather just wait the extra time to find someone, not fun getting tbagged until I bleed out
Unfortunately, and I say this as someone who really likes this game, that's more of a "this game" issue than an MMR one. Some players, on both sides, are only able to fully enjoy this game when they're doing things like what you describe.
Vèrò Apr 19, 2023 @ 1:03am 
Originally posted by Rosalinee ❥:
I just played my first game, got a ghostface and was really excited to see how the game plays out, only to find out he was a prestige 20 ghostface with all purple perks (I only have one) and a pink item with a mori. My 3 other survivors were also very new
MMR in this game is non existent. And after this latest update, you might as well uninstall the game.
M@TRIX™ Apr 19, 2023 @ 1:05am 
I can roughly tell you how dbd's MMR system works. it is not real MMR. The numbers I'm saying now are fictitious as I don't know the real numbers, but it works something like this, so newbie you start with an mmr value of 800, and play with mates with 800-1000 mmr, after a few wins you have over 1000 mmr, then u play with rest of the world with mmr 1000-1800 max, there is nothing in between. This isn't an MMR, it's just a beginner's shield.
Mors_Indecepta Apr 19, 2023 @ 1:53am 
Originally posted by M@TRIX™:
I can roughly tell you how dbd's MMR system works. it is not real MMR. The numbers I'm saying now are fictitious as I don't know the real numbers, but it works something like this, so newbie you start with an mmr value of 800, and play with mates with 800-1000 mmr, after a few wins you have over 1000 mmr, then u play with rest of the world with mmr 1000-1800 max, there is nothing in between. This isn't an MMR, it's just a beginner's shield.
"Beginner's Shield" is actually a really good way to put it.
Although, when you're starting out on survivor, your odds of playing with other people who don't know the game well is pretty high. Since survivor is a team-based mode, the team won't win if there are too many weak links on it. Because of this, low-MMR killers have an easier time at first...it's easy to get kills when the people you're playing don't know even the basics of looping.
The moral of the story is: keep playing, and it gets better.
Gianpi Apr 19, 2023 @ 6:02am 
It doesn't work
Gianpi Apr 19, 2023 @ 6:05am 
I have 2k hours in this game and as my main killer (wraith kekw) sometimes i still get people who have less than 100 hours and of course they die, it feels like the mmr system just assign you a number out of nowhere.
Fierce1 Apr 19, 2023 @ 6:11am 
It's a pretty flawed system, but they insist on using it in order to alleviate queue times.
Essentially the way they intended for it to work would be there would be ranges calculated for killers and survivors to be matched up using their MMRs, but what often tends to happen is matches are unbalanced with sending whoever is available against whoever since those with proper MMR match-ups tend to be matched and taken quickly meanwhile the majority it's basically a mess. It gets even worse once you actually hit high rank, and you'll know when you do. Do yourself a favor, play casually.
Don't run meta builds, and don't get too hung up on winning or losing. The MMR system basically punishes you for your successes.
Last edited by Fierce1; Apr 19, 2023 @ 6:12am
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