Dead by Daylight

Dead by Daylight

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So are we actually removing hellraiser or is it stranger things all over again?
Be a pain if I buy these damn skins just for fomo for them to be back in a year or two.
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Narrowmind Mar 13 @ 10:30am 
It really is unlikely to ever return. Barker himself never cared for Dead by Daylight and he isn't even the owner of the entire property.

Stanger Things on the other hand is much more major and popular, and isn't pure horror in the way Hellraiser was. Hellraiser won't have the mainstream popularity or the demand for it to come back in the same way.

This is probably it for the cenobite.
Originally posted by Narrowmind:
It really is unlikely to ever return. Barker himself never cared for Dead by Daylight and he isn't even the owner of the entire property.

Stanger Things on the other hand is much more major and popular, and isn't pure horror in the way Hellraiser was. Hellraiser won't have the mainstream popularity or the demand for it to come back in the same way.

This is probably it for the cenobite.
Kai, ima buy the lil boy chatterer before he vanishes
stufff Mar 13 @ 11:55am 
It's not like they were lying about Stranger Things, they lost the license and couldn't keep selling. They were able to negotiate a new license so it came back. I imagine the same is true of the Hellraiser license. Whether or not he comes back is a matter of whether the rights holder and developer can come to an agreement on a reasonable licensing arrangement.
[Spirit] Mar 13 @ 1:07pm 
I knew from the start stranger things was coming back, Netflix didnt renew because they had their hot new games coming out for Netflix. Obviously they were gonna flop, and come running back.

This one tho, idk man. It was a bunch of weird negative licensing stuff that happened, and the fact that he got nothing else after release kinda shows the impact it had from the beginning.
Originally posted by Narrowmind:
Barker himself never cared for Dead by Daylight and he isn't even the owner of the entire property.
Do you have a source or article to this? I love Barker but never even thought he knew anything about video games (or DBD ha) so I'd love to read/hear his thoughts/reactions. Thanks in advance! :whiteward:
Nagant Mar 13 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡 WhyGamingWhy󠀡󠀡:
Be a pain if I buy these damn skins just for fomo for them to be back in a year or two.
probably another stranger things situation , it might come back in a 1 year or 2.
either way i dont like that killer to play or go against soo for me its like MEH.

DEFINETLY A LOST FOR VARIETY BUT TO BE FAIR CENOBITE DESTROYS SOLO Q TEAMS EASILY PRETTY OFTEN.
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unlike stranger things season 5 coming soon hellrasier might not come back the movies are done
Mewsha Mar 13 @ 4:41pm 
Stranger Things was removed because Netflix was developing a Stranger Things game at one time and didn't want competition, but it didn't pan out, the license was renegotiated, and Stranger Things quickly came back.

The issue with Hellraiser is BHVR negotiated with Park Avenue Entertainment, which roped them into that whole NFT scandal, and I'd imagine that would sour any relationship. It was actually the first time they confirmed that no content would ever be coming for a licensed chapter, and it's not like they didn't want to bring us content either.

There was a map planned, and there's concept art for various Pinhead cosmetics. There's a lot of good Hellraiser material to source from with the first two films and the comics. We never got that though.

Now Clive Barker, the original author, has regained rights to the first film and its characters, but only in the US. Park Avenue has international rights and rights to everything after the first Hellraiser.

Obviously Barker wouldn't want to release a project that's only in the US, and Park Avenue isn't going to release anything excluding a major market, so they both must be consulted on any future projects. Therefore this is much more similar to Friday the 13th, not Stranger Things.

That makes it really difficult to get it back due to multiple entities needing to agree to the collaboration. The good news is Barker and Park Avenue are already working together on an HBO project for Hellraiser. The bad news is we don't know how Barker feels about DbD, the current relationship between BHVR and Park Avenue or really how well the relationship between Park Avenue and Barker is going.
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Originally posted by VirtuallyBob™/ttv:
Do you have a source or article to this? I love Barker but never even thought he knew anything about video games (or DBD ha) so I'd love to read/hear his thoughts/reactions. Thanks in advance! :whiteward:
I admit, I could just be spreading misinformation. I apologize.

The source I got it from was main Field Agent Reaper, and his wording was "It doesn't seem like Clive Barker wants anything to do with Dead By Daylight," and I assumed this was the truth.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxECe9UsM03F9qx4BK0nWi-WR-UFAdBSEG?si=47ZvVZnYZ7Snvlsf
Originally posted by Nagant:
Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡 WhyGamingWhy󠀡󠀡:
Be a pain if I buy these damn skins just for fomo for them to be back in a year or two.
probably another stranger things situation , it might come back in a 1 year or 2.
either way i dont like that killer to play or go against soo for me its like MEH.

DEFINETLY A LOST FOR VARIETY BUT TO BE FAIR CENOBITE DESTROYS SOLO Q TEAMS EASILY PRETTY OFTEN.
Tbf any capable player can easily destroy solo q's. Hell it doesnt even take much of a skilled player to destroy the vast majority of group plays either.
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Date Posted: Mar 13 @ 10:27am
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