pipping up is way too hard as killer

[アウトコールド]

I don't care that you guys say that i just suck and that it's super easy. Too many survivors take 3 hits to down or they rush the generators too hard. Survivors have it so easy and can just camp cabins and pallets. You can max out all the categories and get few kills and not pip up. You can m,ax out kills but not other categories and not pip up. I'm just sick of having awesome matches where I do everything I possibly can in these long matches and get nothing out of it. Survivors get mad at killers for camping hooks but it's the only way to have a slight chance at pipping up because if I play nice I probably wont get any kills and not pip up. You literally have to max out everything or close to it to pip up.

[Hex: Hyperfixation]

Funfact the survival rate is only 39%. Killers have it statistically way easier than survivors each killerkillrate is over 50%. Maybe you need to learn when to drop chase and tunnel a weak link out quickly?
Camping punishes you pip wise... tunneling doesnt. if you camp you dont get good emblems. Maybe read some descriptions before complaining when you are part of your problem?

[アウトコールド]

Originally posted by Oh god not again:

Funfact the survival rate is only 39%. Killers have it statistically way easier than survivors each killerkillrate is over 50%. Maybe you need to learn when to drop chase and tunnel a weak link out quickly?
Camping punishes you pip wise... tunneling doesn't. if you camp you dont get good emblems. Maybe read some descriptions before complaining when you are part of your problem?

Yeah I didn't camp once my first game, hoping to get as many hooks as possible. I swear I did everything right. Went after gens that were being worked on, marking survivors as ghostface. Match took forever, everything maxed chase, stabs, knockdowns, destruction, got a bunch of hooks, but only got 1 kill. Didn't pip up.

Also for those statistics, I'm sure most of those matches were from casual players who are in a much lower bracket where most of them are unskilled. It's a lot more complicated than to cover every match under one blanket because the results will be skewed.

[Hex: Hyperfixation]

Originally posted by アウトコールド:

Originally posted by Oh god not again:

Funfact the survival rate is only 39%. Killers have it statistically way easier than survivors each killerkillrate is over 50%. Maybe you need to learn when to drop chase and tunnel a weak link out quickly?
Camping punishes you pip wise... tunneling doesn't. if you camp you dont get good emblems. Maybe read some descriptions before complaining when you are part of your problem?

Yeah I didn't camp once my first game, hoping to get as many hooks as possible. I swear I did everything right. Went after gens that were being worked on, marking survivors as ghostface. Match took forever, everything maxed chase, stabs, knockdowns, destruction, got a bunch of hooks, but only got 1 kill. Didn't pip up.

Also for those statistics, I'm sure most of those matches were from casual players who are in a much lower bracket where most of them are unskilled. It's a lot more complicated than to cover every match under one blanket because the results will be skewed.

About those statistic even at the top 5% the killers ALL have a higher than 50% kill rate. All of them. Sooo even if you are top 5% which I highly doubt it still holds true.
And in a lot of matches you just wont pip or black pip they already made it too easy in my opinion. You cant really derank anymore so it really shouldnt be that much of an issue. And if you didnt pip up doing that you are already in iridecent and obviously didnt have trouble piping before.

[DMesse]

2 things.

1. Pipping system is rigged against Killers who have 1 hit down capabilities.

It's built under the assumption that you're slapping 2 hits to down a survivor. While I did achieve it, climbing up to Iri 1 was a friggen nightmare as a Ghostface main, just because the game penalizes you for your abilities. If grade climb is your only goal, I suggest that you look into other Killers who 2 hit downs survivors.

2. Iri grade pipping is currently bugged.

Devout category is counting 1 hook sacrifice less, so a 4 kill wipe is counted as 3 kills, making it impossible to get that blood red grade. "Kills" that doesn't involve hooks are known to circumvent this. Instances such as disconnect on hook, execution with Pyramid Head may properly count kills.

[アウトコールド]

Okay so I guess for next season I just need to figure out what I'm doing wrong then. I'll probably drop ghostface because it's just not working

[Xani]

Originally posted by アウトコールド:

Originally posted by Oh god not again:

Funfact the survival rate is only 39%. Killers have it statistically way easier than survivors each killerkillrate is over 50%. Maybe you need to learn when to drop chase and tunnel a weak link out quickly?
Camping punishes you pip wise... tunneling doesn't. if you camp you dont get good emblems. Maybe read some descriptions before complaining when you are part of your problem?

Yeah I didn't camp once my first game, hoping to get as many hooks as possible. I swear I did everything right. Went after gens that were being worked on, marking survivors as ghostface. Match took forever, everything maxed chase, stabs, knockdowns, destruction, got a bunch of hooks, but only got 1 kill. Didn't pip up.

Also for those statistics, I'm sure most of those matches were from casual players who are in a much lower bracket where most of them are unskilled. It's a lot more complicated than to cover every match under one blanket because the results will be skewed.

lemme just put it like this to make it simple some killers make it easier to pip up and some less ghostface (even if you did very well) isint very good at gaining pips you will not rank up fast using him stalking is kind of a waste on good survivors and just staring at him makes him a m1 killer with no power NOW DONT GET ME WRONG you can totally play him and he is very fun and scary BUT dont expect gaining many pips with him i got high rank many times using killers with good mobility and gen slowing perks

[Evilsod]

Are you kidding? Ranking up as killer really isn't that difficult. Outside of cursed games against tryharding SWFs, even if you don't outright 'win' you should easily get enough towards emblems to at least +1 pip or 0 pip at least. The games that go short because of ragequits/suicides are 100% in your hands too. If you're going for ranking, you can easily drag the game out as much as possible and try to get everyone to 3 hooks.

Ranking up survivor is the real pain. There are so many things that can screw you out of even a 0 pip. If you get ragequits or suicides, you've got so little chance at doing the bare minimum in generators/atruism/chasing/surviving. Survivors don't have the luxury of extending the game in that situation.
Even games where you survive, you still might not get a +1 if you didn't do enough of everything. Especially if you were getting chased a lot.

[Shinkie]

Originally posted by Oh god not again:

Funfact the survival rate is only 39%. Killers have it statistically way easier than survivors each killerkillrate is over 50%. Maybe you need to learn when to drop chase and tunnel a weak link out quickly?
Camping punishes you pip wise... tunneling doesnt. if you camp you dont get good emblems. Maybe read some descriptions before complaining when you are part of your problem?

If 3+ kills is a win for the killer while 2 or less is a loss. A 60% kill rate means that killer loses more than they win. You want about a 62.5% to be fully balanced. It was worse before the killer patch that is for sure but it is still technically a survivor sided game.

[Hex: Hyperfixation]

Originally posted by Shinkie:

Originally posted by Oh god not again:

Funfact the survival rate is only 39%. Killers have it statistically way easier than survivors each killerkillrate is over 50%. Maybe you need to learn when to drop chase and tunnel a weak link out quickly?
Camping punishes you pip wise... tunneling doesnt. if you camp you dont get good emblems. Maybe read some descriptions before complaining when you are part of your problem?

If 3+ kills is a win for the killer while 2 or less is a loss. A 60% kill rate means that killer loses more than they win. You want about a 62.5% to be fully balanced. It was worse before the killer patch that is for sure but it is still technically a survivor sided game.

2k is not a loss... and I said the lowest have a kill rate of about 60 percent...
I think you need to rethink your evaluation of a loss..

[Shinkie]

Originally posted by Oh god not again:

Originally posted by Shinkie:

If 3+ kills is a win for the killer while 2 or less is a loss. A 60% kill rate means that killer loses more than they win. You want about a 62.5% to be fully balanced. It was worse before the killer patch that is for sure but it is still technically a survivor sided game.

2k is not a loss... and I said the lowest have a kill rate of about 60 percent...
I think you need to rethink your evaluation of a loss..

I think its the opposite and you need to re-evaluate. The devs have come out and stated they want the rate to be just over 60% for killers. Plus every killer does think that 2k is a loss 3k plus is a win. So your evaluation is what is wrong. If you think only 2k is not a loss for the killer that is just delusional.

[秋]

Originally posted by Shinkie:

Originally posted by Oh god not again:

2k is not a loss... and I said the lowest have a kill rate of about 60 percent...
I think you need to rethink your evaluation of a loss..

I think its the opposite and you need to re-evaluate. The devs have come out and stated they want the rate to be just over 60% for killers. Plus every killer does think that 2k is a loss 3k plus is a win. So your evaluation is what is wrong. If you think only 2k is not a loss for the killer that is just delusional.

I only consider it a win if I hook all 4.

[rusty booi]

My experience is different. I got to iri 1 in first week of killer and I've been there ever since. Not trying to brag or anything, just saying I don't have the same issue. Why our experiences are different I dunno, maybe it's cause I play a high-tier killer (blight).

[Shinkie]

Originally posted by NRG:

Originally posted by Shinkie:

I think its the opposite and you need to re-evaluate. The devs have come out and stated they want the rate to be just over 60% for killers. Plus every killer does think that 2k is a loss 3k plus is a win. So your evaluation is what is wrong. If you think only 2k is not a loss for the killer that is just delusional.

I only consider it a win if I hook all 4.

Lol that is a little bit wishful thinking. If 4 is your belief of a win then you want like a 75% kill rate for killers. That is a little too drastic for my taste.

[アウトコールド]

Originally posted by Shinkie:

Originally posted by NRG:

I only consider it a win if I hook all 4.

Lol that is a little bit wishful thinking. If 4 is your belief of a win then you want like a 75% kill rate for killers. That is a little too drastic for my taste.

i've gotten 4 kills and not pipped up a few times, so i don't consider getting 4 kills a win based on that alone.

[Shinkie]

Originally posted by アウトコールド:

Originally posted by Shinkie:

Lol that is a little bit wishful thinking. If 4 is your belief of a win then you want like a 75% kill rate for killers. That is a little too drastic for my taste.

i've gotten 4 kills and not pipped up a few times, so i don't consider getting 4 kills a win based on that alone.

Oh you only care about the pip got ya.