Bubba shouldn't get to use Bamboozle

[Hex: Hemorrhoids]

Just like Spirit shouldn't get to use Stridor. They completely counter the only counter to these killers; Window vaulting away to safer tiles and Iron Will and/or being quiet.

It's so dumb that they can win trades so easily with 0 effort involved. Bubba already eats pallets quicker than I eat a whole cheesecake, so wtf.

Edit: Meant to say 'shouldn't', not should. He's just a frustrating killer to play against when he uses Bamboozle. Not every map has perfect tiles to play with and he can steamroll for no reason.

[Myu]

Okay, but only if we can remove survivor items such as medkits, keys, toolboxes, and maps because they're a counter to many abilities the killers use on survivors.

[Thrax]

You need to up your cheesecake game.

[Seth]

Stridor cannot be easily countered but requires No Mither (With Iron Will) which is only negative for the survivor to run for one specific killer in the entire game, as Stridor is mostly used for her.

Bamboozle can be run on other killers too, like Myers... Trickster maybe more, on Bubba it just synergize with his power but can still be easily countered just by playing safe.

[RamboRusina]

Bamboozle removes lockers? Pallets no longer eat chainsaw charges and bubba can't be stunned with them? And bamboozle only works on single vaulting spot btw. Chainsaw has plenty of counterplay to it

Originally posted by Seth:

Stridor cannot be easily countered but requires No Mither (With Iron Will) which is only negative for the survivor to run for one specific killer in the entire game, as Stridor is mostly used for her.

It won't require No Mither once PTB goes live. They are buffing iron will to be absolute in the voice cancellation so Stridor no longer soft counters it. After all there were couple people in high ranks that weren't running Iron Will still so it just had to get buffed all while indirectly nerfing Stridor that had niche only with spirit.

[limierr]

Originally posted by TunnelingMeansUrBad:

Just like Spirit shouldn't get to use Stridor. They completely counter the only counter to these killers; Window vaulting away to safer tiles and Iron Will and/or being quiet.

It's so dumb that they can win trades so easily with 0 effort involved. Bubba already eats pallets quicker than I eat a whole cheesecake, so wtf.

Originally posted by TunnelingMeansUrBad:

Just like Spirit shouldn't get to use Stridor. They completely counter the only counter to these killers; Window vaulting away to safer tiles and Iron Will and/or being quiet.

It's so dumb that they can win trades so easily with 0 effort involved. Bubba already eats pallets quicker than I eat a whole cheesecake, so wtf.

Window is not the only counter to leatherface.
If you want to know more feel free to make a research on steam forum.

[Hex: Hemorrhoids]

Originally posted by RamboRusina:

Bamboozle removes lockers? Pallets no longer eat chainsaw charges and bubba can't be stunned with them? And bamboozle only works on single vaulting spot btw. Chainsaw has plenty of counterplay to it

It really doesn't. New maps have tiles that spawn so far apart and you can't get away from him without pallets or window vaults. He's gonna hit you with his ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hitbox regardless.

[AguilaDeAcero]

You mean easy wins and counters with no effort involved like most SWF have? No? Okay.

[Zeek]

No.

How to counter bubba with bamboozle: go to a t and L wall. He is now forced to be a m1 killer.

[Sciroccu]

True, it's dumb.
Like Spirit shouldn't be able to use stridor.

[BILLIE EILISH]

Lmao every bubba has it because they get looped so easily.

[Skittletits]

Some horrible bait.

[13CHAG]

Oh no! You can't use the same banal tactics to counter a Killer who has multiple other counters! I hope they add another perk so that you can completely obviate this issue without having to put in any effort yourself. (Wait. Haven't they?)


Jesus. Can't the same logic apply to theoretically every other Killer? Spirit Fury and Enduring with -- god forbid -- Bamboozle; or maybe Bamboozle with Brutal Strength; or maybe they can just teleport or completely prevent you from putting down pallets!

[Sciroccu]

Originally posted by TrapperEnjoyer151:

Oh no! You can't use the same banal tactics to counter a Killer who has multiple other counters! I hope they add another perk so that you can completely obviate this issue without having to put in any effort yourself. (Wait. Haven't they?)


Jesus. Can't the same logic apply to theoretically every other Killer? Spirit Fury and Enduring with -- god forbid -- Bamboozle; or maybe Bamboozle with Brutal Strength; or maybe they can just teleport or completely prevent you from putting down pallets!

Bamboozle is dumb on one shot killers such has LF or Billy.
It's ppl that use it that want it ez not the other way around.
You already have a oneshot ability and need to deny half of the counter (pallets + windows) that survivor have in chase.

Those seem to be the ones that want to put 0 effort themselves tbh...

[13CHAG]

Originally posted by Skittletits:

Some horrible bait.

>OP w/ 1.5k hrs. who has the name TunnelingMeansUrBad, has yet to reach rank 5 as Killer (https://prnt.sc/1bnzlae), and just recently reached rank 1 as Survivor
>horrible bait

[13CHAG]

Originally posted by Sciroccu:

Bamboozle is dumb on one shot killers such has LF or Billy.
It's ppl that use iot that want it ez not the other way around.
You already have a oneshot ability and need to deny half of the counter (pallets + windows that survivor have in chase.

Those seem to be the ones that want to put 0 effort themselves tbh...

Originally posted by Sciroccu:

Bamboozle is dumb on one shot killers such has LF or Billy.

Why? You do know that you can run multiple loops at once (16 second cool-down on Bamboozle level-3), dodge their abilities, avoid them in the first place, situate yourself closer to pallet loops, mind-game, shift + w while they're vaulting, move to an unoptimal location for their abilities, jump into a locker, use exhaustion perks, use items like flashbangs, stun them with pallets, etc.

It's obvious that they're running a very strong build, but you're very much able to counter them. Also, not that you even made this argument, but I don't think that this is too different from the perks that are capable of being ran on Survivor which are fairly hard to immediately counter.

Originally posted by Sciroccu:

You already have a oneshot ability and need to deny half of the counter (pallets + windows that survivor have in chase.

Okay.

Originally posted by Sciroccu:

Those seem to be the ones that want to put 0 effort themselves tbh...

Isn't that the point? You're trying to attenuate the effort necessitated in certain situations by using perks that assist you.