Worried about the Ghoul

[Anubis, un poderoso enemigo]

It's a shame, Kaneki is really fun to play as, his chase theme is great, probably the best one since Wesker/Knight IMO, he has really good animations, feels so smooth unlike most characters and overall is pretty strong without being the best killer in the game... but I absolutely get why people say he's annoying to go against, I can see it clearly, this isn't in defense of Kaneki, it's more about not wanting BHVR to ruin a killer with a lot of potential since I'm pretty sure they will change some stuff even if it's not soon.

Lately BHVR doesn't know how to rework or change killers. Skull Merchant went from the most annoying thing in this game to literally the worst killer to the point that nobody uses her. Then Chucky went from being annoying, to being okayish to now being maybe average but not in a good way since average in this game isn't a lot. Freddy is at least kinda okay even if he's still weak in general, not the best rework either.

So that's it, it's either be happy with the Ghoul right now or wait for BHVR to completely destroy him. So BHVR, if the guy that thought about the latest Billy rework is still working with you, please let him cook with this, because another SM/Chucky level rework would be devastating

[Gaymerman]

If only the ghoul had originality to him of any sort. Just leaping is mad boring and a broken targeting system with his ability that, takes no skill first of all, secondly guaranteed hit, lastly can still go through almost anything in the map to connect. If you enjoy boring characters like Kaneki, where you just constantly chase everyone and win every game because the only thing he needs is a little aura and no one makes it out thats fine.... just dont be saying how fun it is to faceroll through the game with broken leaps and a buff you can keep on someone while downed or hooked that doesnt go away despite those facts....

[Gaymerman]

I wouldve loved to have seen him actually bite them, not just using his stupid tentacles to bite.... thats not how he works at all in actuality and the animation is a stupid seizure u have for no reason...

[Revenge319]

I feel like Ghoul only needs a slight nerf. If I were to make changes, I'd make Enraged Mode only allow two vaults, but increase the sliding distance for the second leap. I'd also make the window to hit the Survivor with his M2 a lot more strict. Maybe slightly increase the recovery time after he cancels his leap. But that's it, really, I feel like he's fine other than that.

Comparing him to other Killers, I've found Chucky way more frustrating to go against than I have with the Ghoul. With the Ghoul, I can at least figure out a way to make some extra distance based on how he leaps towards me. I still don't know what the counterplay for Chucky is supposed to be with his Slice and Dice attack, other than "hope he misses" or "hope you're next to a wall that you can wrap around 180 degrees".

[Goth Girl Piss]

i'd rather go against 100 skull merchants than this bs killer

[DaSh]

Originally posted by Revenge319:

I feel like Ghoul only needs a slight nerf. If I were to make changes, I'd make Enraged Mode only allow two vaults, but increase the sliding distance for the second leap. I'd also make the window to hit the Survivor with his M2 a lot more strict. Maybe slightly increase the recovery time after he cancels his leap. But that's it, really, I feel like he's fine other than that.

Comparing him to other Killers, I've found Chucky way more frustrating to go against than I have with the Ghoul. With the Ghoul, I can at least figure out a way to make some extra distance based on how he leaps towards me. I still don't know what the counterplay for Chucky is supposed to be with his Slice and Dice attack, other than "hope he misses" or "hope you're next to a wall that you can wrap around 180 degrees".

You're sounding biased towards Ghoul tbh. Him getting a free auto hit on you is worse than Chucky.

[HEX: Ruin me hard]

Originally posted by Gaymerman:

If only the ghoul had originality to him of any sort. Just leaping is mad boring and a broken targeting system with his ability that, takes no skill first of all, secondly guaranteed hit, lastly can still go through almost anything in the map to connect. If you enjoy boring characters like Kaneki, where you just constantly chase everyone and win every game because the only thing he needs is a little aura and no one makes it out thats fine.... just dont be saying how fun it is to faceroll through the game with broken leaps and a buff you can keep on someone while downed or hooked that doesnt go away despite those facts....

He is not broken at all and he still needs a lot of skill to master.

Don’t say this if you don’t know how to play against him.

It’s normal he has been out only for a week.

[Synth]

Originally posted by HEX: Ruin me hard:

Originally posted by Gaymerman:

If only the ghoul had originality to him of any sort. Just leaping is mad boring and a broken targeting system with his ability that, takes no skill first of all, secondly guaranteed hit, lastly can still go through almost anything in the map to connect. If you enjoy boring characters like Kaneki, where you just constantly chase everyone and win every game because the only thing he needs is a little aura and no one makes it out thats fine.... just dont be saying how fun it is to faceroll through the game with broken leaps and a buff you can keep on someone while downed or hooked that doesnt go away despite those facts....

He is not broken at all and he still needs a lot of skill to master.

Don’t say this if you don’t know how to play against him.

It’s normal he has been out only for a week.

lmao right. you keep that same energy when he gets hit with the nerfs as deserved. your skill level is clearly showing to not even admit he is broken upon release. biggest bozo the clown u are

[Revenge319]

Originally posted by DaSh:

You're sounding biased towards Ghoul tbh. Him getting a free auto hit on you is worse than Chucky.

No, I'm not being biased towards Ghoul. I even said that his ability to hit the Survivor with his M2 should be a lot more strict than it is, so that it wouldn't be a free hit. I just don't think he's super overpowered, only a little bit.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Skull Merchant him. Get him outta here.

[Three Eyed Willy]

Originally posted by HEX: Ruin me hard:

Originally posted by Gaymerman:

If only the ghoul had originality to him of any sort. Just leaping is mad boring and a broken targeting system with his ability that, takes no skill first of all, secondly guaranteed hit, lastly can still go through almost anything in the map to connect. If you enjoy boring characters like Kaneki, where you just constantly chase everyone and win every game because the only thing he needs is a little aura and no one makes it out thats fine.... just dont be saying how fun it is to faceroll through the game with broken leaps and a buff you can keep on someone while downed or hooked that doesnt go away despite those facts....

He is not broken at all and he still needs a lot of skill to master.

Don’t say this if you don’t know how to play against him.

It’s normal he has been out only for a week.

you are just trolling, gtfo

[Scarlet]

honestly i say lessen his auto aim box and thats it cuz hitting people through walls and on 2nd stories is crazy even as a killer player

i fear tho they gonna gut him which is crazy

[Crazy muffin]

The only way for the ghoul to become terrible is if they remove the ability to cancel your power if they do that the ghoul will be dead any other nerf will still make the killer usable.

[Tokogawa [GER]]

He is in need of Nerfs especially his Autoaim but I also hope they dont sledgehammer him

Originally posted by Anubis, un poderoso enemigo:

Lately BHVR doesn't know how to rework or change killers. Skull Merchant went from the most annoying thing in this game to literally the worst killer to the point that nobody uses her.

That was intended. They went with a Riot Classic and nerfed her into being useless so the Community shuts up about her until they are done with a Rework. Riot did that to Yorick and Poppy
It wasnt accidently to much or that they didnt know what they are doing. They nerfed her useless on purpose

[Anubis, un poderoso enemigo]

Originally posted by Scarlet:

honestly i say lessen his auto aim box and thats it cuz hitting people through walls and on 2nd stories is crazy even as a killer player

i fear tho they gonna gut him which is crazy

I was thinking about that too, or maybe don't allow him to get that first hit if there's something between him and the survivor. And if they want to be more strict, they could make it so the Ghoul only damages the survivor if he's physically close to them, so that would prevent him damaging survivors from the different floors like it happens right now. So he would need to be close to the survivor to actually bit them and also not have anything between them like a wall.

Edit. The problem with that is... of course ping now that I think of it. I don't know how they could make that work.

[Anubis, un poderoso enemigo]

Originally posted by Tokogawa GER:

He is in need of Nerfs especially his Autoaim but I also hope they dont sledgehammer him

Originally posted by Anubis, un poderoso enemigo:

Lately BHVR doesn't know how to rework or change killers. Skull Merchant went from the most annoying thing in this game to literally the worst killer to the point that nobody uses her.

That was intended. They went with a Riot Classic and nerfed her into being useless so the Community shuts up about her until they are done with a Rework. Riot did that to Yorick and Poppy
It wasnt accidently to much or that they didnt know what they are doing. They nerfed her useless on purpose

Yeah, I guess that's true. Still it's a bit sad that they couldn't think of anything to make her at least decent considering they take months and sometimes years to fix something.