Dracula too OP

[Blisstix]

Either I have been spoiled with crappy killers or this new killer is too OP.
There is zero way to outrun it and it's abilities are too powerful.

[Burger]

Originally posted by zukene:

Originally posted by GorillaHump2020:

I mean when you have 3 killer powers in one essentially, its tricky to maneuver

Not really hellfire has a pretty slim hit box (you can side step it next to a pallet for gods sake). Pounce is slow and predictable, if the killer tries to hug tech then either get behind something else or leave the loop depending on the spot. Bat form cant see survivors and while good dracs can find you theres way to sneak by. Yes its 3 seperate powers, all of which are watered down versions of other killers.

even wolf hug tech got removed easily his worst form atm

[KrakenGreywolf]

Originally posted by DollarTom:

Please let's stop right now....The same happened to Vecna. Instead of learning the killer people started crying over and over and over again until the nerf happens.

If you feel like the killer is OP go for a few rounds with said killer first to see if it is really OP or just really good in good hands

I wouldn’t have known they nerfed Vecna, he still feels really OP to me (That being said, I’ve only faced him a handful of times since he seems to have a low pick rate at…whatever the heck MMR is).

It’s also worth noting that Dracula received some significant buffs after release (This coming from someone who will DEFINITELY buy and probably main Dracula when the Castlevania chapter goes on a decent sale)-and I’m usually more than happy to face him in solo queue.

[Space Brick]

Nobody here consistently outplays dracula as survivor I bet despite how much boasting, get guds and skill issues there are

He is tough to adjust from a dev pov I imagine because each power is not only situational but also transformations before or mid-chase allows him to make unexpected complex plays either to catch up or to suddenly use his other power from a new direction and he doesn't lose much distance by switching forms at all which is really the hardest thing to deal with imo

really depends on specifically where you are running him but to get around his power you need to anticipate his next move and bait and dodge it but you also have to watch out for him zoning you or putting you into a lose/lose

General rule of thumb is anticipate him using a fireball on low loops and windows/pallets and using wolf around high walls and jungle gyms, also don't leave the loop unless you have another one right next to it even if you win a mindgame because he can catch up with bat mode if he has a general idea of your direction

Also sometimes they will use bat mode to teleport to a window or pallet in front of you and quickly switch to use power on you from there in this case you can anticipate it like dredge using teleport

Also remember you're safe while he's in bat mode but only if you don't let him know where you are, otherwise if he can keep your location he will not lose you and can transform close to you and go for m1 quickly like spirit or even immediately play for an m2

To me he's very hard but not as annoying as vecna when he places flight of the damned on top of you around a loop but he has stronger catch up than vecna which he can use to make up for mistakes almost every time

[Space Brick]

also with wolf if he switches to it in the open he will catch up to you quicker than normal because he usually is moving at 120 and can use his power to close the distance suddenly and hit you or zone you like demo or wesker

[zukene]

Originally posted by Burger:

Originally posted by zukene:

Not really hellfire has a pretty slim hit box (you can side step it next to a pallet for gods sake). Pounce is slow and predictable, if the killer tries to hug tech then either get behind something else or leave the loop depending on the spot. Bat form cant see survivors and while good dracs can find you theres way to sneak by. Yes its 3 seperate powers, all of which are watered down versions of other killers.

even wolf hug tech got removed easily his worst form atm

I typed that before it was removed

[CorvusCorax]

Originally posted by zukene:

Originally posted by GorillaHump2020:

I mean when you have 3 killer powers in one essentially, its tricky to maneuver

Not really hellfire has a pretty slim hit box (you can side step it next to a pallet for gods sake). Pounce is slow and predictable, if the killer tries to hug tech then either get behind something else or leave the loop depending on the spot. Bat form cant see survivors and while good dracs can find you theres way to sneak by. Yes its 3 seperate powers, all of which are watered down versions of other killers.

The statement on hellfire is definitely not true. I always try to go sideways but it hits me.

[Zelph]

Originally posted by Space Brick:

Nobody here consistently outplays dracula as survivor I bet despite how much boasting, get guds and skill issues there are

He is tough to adjust from a dev pov I imagine because each power is not only situational but also transformations before or mid-chase allows him to make unexpected complex plays either to catch up or to suddenly use his other power from a new direction and he doesn't lose much distance by switching forms at all which is really the hardest thing to deal with imo

really depends on specifically where you are running him but to get around his power you need to anticipate his next move and bait and dodge it but you also have to watch out for him zoning you or putting you into a lose/lose

General rule of thumb is anticipate him using a fireball on low loops and windows/pallets and using wolf around high walls and jungle gyms, also don't leave the loop unless you have another one right next to it even if you win a mindgame because he can catch up with bat mode if he has a general idea of your direction

Also sometimes they will use bat mode to teleport to a window or pallet in front of you and quickly switch to use power on you from there in this case you can anticipate it like dredge using teleport

Also remember you're safe while he's in bat mode but only if you don't let him know where you are, otherwise if he can keep your location he will not lose you and can transform close to you and go for m1 quickly like spirit or even immediately play for an m2

To me he's very hard but not as annoying as vecna when he places flight of the damned on top of you around a loop but he has stronger catch up than vecna which he can use to make up for mistakes almost every time

Knowing HOW to do things doesn't mean you can, true. But you CAN still know. I'm not that good at the game, but generally have a much better knowledge base then a number of players. Just a note.

[Cade Rainier]

"He has so many powers! He can do it ALL "

Yes, that's typically how shapeshifter classes work. The player is intended to be rewarded for using the right form at the right time and punished for misplaying.

Having access to 3 forms and their abilities doesn't mean you have access to everything all at once all the time without any consideration of opportunity cost or time management.

[Disco Wieszcz]

I pet the doggo and he let me go. Not op normally

But OP IN CUTENESS!

[CorvusCorax]

Originally posted by Disco Wieszcz:

I pet the doggo and he let me go. Not op normally

But OP IN CUTENESS!

Hah! I wonder if this will turn out a new boop the snoot.

[DollarTom]

Originally posted by CorvusCorax:

Originally posted by Disco Wieszcz:

I pet the doggo and he let me go. Not op normally

But OP IN CUTENESS!

Hah! I wonder if this will turn out a new boop the snoot.

Well when I play Dracula and someone pets me in wolf form I automatically leave them alone X) People who pet the dog should be protected!

[Gpuna]

Most Dracs I've seen just hover hooks with their right hand out. It's fun to go against one in normal chases. Good, but they aren't busted

[CorvusCorax]

Originally posted by DollarTom:

Originally posted by CorvusCorax:

Hah! I wonder if this will turn out a new boop the snoot.

Well when I play Dracula and someone pets me in wolf form I automatically leave them alone X) People who pet the dog should be protected!

Little bit off but how do you guys react when a survivor starts playing music?

[redshirt_49]

He's definitely oppressive, but he's not on the level of Nurse or Blight.
This is more an issue of learning counterplay. Don't camp pallets, loop tightly, don't run mindlessly to the next loop.

Keep in mind, if he's in vamp form treat him like you would Nemesis.
If he's in Wolf Form, treat him like you would Wesker.
And if he's in Bat Form, well keep in mind he can't see you. He tracks like Spirit in that mode.
Most good drac's only use that form to catch up between loops anyway or to fly over god pallets.

[CorvusCorax]

Originally posted by redshirt_49:

He's definitely oppressive, but he's not on the level of Nurse or Blight.
This is more an issue of learning counterplay. Don't camp pallets, loop tightly, don't run mindlessly to the next loop.

Keep in mind, if he's in vamp form treat him like you would Nemesis.
If he's in Wolf Form, treat him like you would Wesker.
And if he's in Bat Form, well keep in mind he can't see you. He tracks like Spirit in that mode.
Most good drac's only use that form to catch up between loops anyway or to fly over god pallets.

"tracks like Spirit" - seeing scratch marks only? Or having killer instinct, too?