Why is everyone giving up?

[StickNardoragon]

I played 10 survivor games and literally every teammate I have had gives up on first hook. Doesn't matter if the chase lasts them 10 or 60 seconds, they get hooked and just suicide. This has been the most boring, frustrating experience I have ever had in DbD. I stopped playing for ONE MONTH and come back to this??? Why tf are you even playing if you're doing this? It's not like it's because someone's playing a certain killer either, it has happened on every single unique killer I have played against. Wtf is going on???

[Hunterelfss]

It's normal.

The only viable survivor games are SWF now.

Killer games are against mostly SWFs, so they are encouraged to tunnel or they lose.

If you are solo it is unplayable because the game is focused around killer vs SWF.

If not SWF, then you will have a miserable time. It's been like that for a long time.

As a solo player, the most fun games is killer. They are the games you have the highest chance of winning on as a solo player. While frustrating against SWFs, you have a higher chance of winning than playing solo queue survivor.

TL;DR, as a solo player, you're better off focusing on playing killer.

[StickNardoragon]

Originally posted by Hunterelfss:

It's normal.

The only viable survivor games are SWF now.

I have literally never seen this behaviour this consistently in all of my years playing this game. This is repeated behaviour now

[Hunterelfss]

Originally posted by Xerikzs:

Originally posted by Hunterelfss:

It's normal.

The only viable survivor games are SWF now.

I have literally never seen this behaviour this consistently in all of my years playing this game. This is repeated behaviour now

I think it's because over the years there's always been a win condition without tunnelling. For example, there was the gen-hitting meta with Call of Brine and Eruption. Then that got nerfed, so killers changed tactic.

I think it's because many of the tactics killers used to use has been nerfed, so they are forced to resort to tunnelling to win now.

DBD haven't added any new strategies to help killers win, like gen slowdown. So it's resorted to the problem we have today.

Devs need to add some kind of generator slowdown mechanic based on who is winning to fix it - which I think they are experimenting with 2v8. So it'll be about 2 years before this gets fixed.

[StickNardoragon]

Originally posted by Hunterelfss:

Originally posted by Xerikzs:

I have literally never seen this behaviour this consistently in all of my years playing this game. This is repeated behaviour now

I think it's because over the years there's always been a win condition without tunnelling. For example, there was the gen-hitting meta with Call of Brine and Eruption. Then that got nerfed, so killers changed tactic.

I think it's because many of the tactics killers used to use has been nerfed, so they are forced to resort to tunnelling to win now.

DBD haven't added any new strategies to help killers win, like gen slowdown. So it's resorted to the problem we have today.

Devs need to add some kind of generator slowdown mechanic based on who is winning to fix it - which I think they are experimenting with 2v8. So it'll be about 2 years before this gets fixed.

What does any of that have to do with people giving up on first hook?

[SoloQ=Autism]

i do it to with almost 2500k hours on xbox and steam.

Sadly my mentality got to 2/10 since all games are not winnable,so why waste time , if you got experience you can tell from the first 5 minutes or 10 maximum if its worth it or not.
BUT only type of competitive survivors do it (at least myself and some friends i got from inside it) cz u know there is no reason to go tryhard,just skip it.

[B.A.R.A]

Not saying it's the reason every time, but its the tryhard mentality. Tryhard survivors not getting things their way. Tryhard killers tunnelling, slugging and just playing in some miserable ways. The majority of this games player base sweat like their life depends on it, and those of us who just want to play for fun get caught up in and it becomes a miserable experience.

I won't DC because my tryhard build didn't go my way. I will DC when a killer goes out of their way to make the game as unfun as possible so they can get a 4k.

[Clock]

Everyone here giving up has been the reason why games are lost, I have stayed in some of the most heinous starts and have gotten at least 2 people out from it, I have stayed in some of the worst games where 1 guy is instantly tunnelled and people are getting slugged and we still got a 4 out, Survivors giving up are the reason why a game is lost if you refuse to give up you will escape and get others out a lot more than you would think, It's almost like utilising strategy and the killers time gives you a lot better of a chance.

The second you make the choice into turning a perfectly winnable/tie-able game to a 1v3 is when you have unironically failed as a teammate anyone justifying going next is one of the biggest problems in soloq and as long as people keep justifying it we will keep getting teams that are doomed to fail not because someone is playing bad/poorly but because someone is too selfish to even try.

[76561199338588322]

the system don't reward the player enough, take like league of legends as example even if the mmr there is hidden you can flex your elo to everyone also if you get to gold or higher you gain a super rare skin that will never be back. in dbd the mmr is hidden your rank servers for nothing bloodpoints are useless for vast majority of the playerbase. basically people have no thrill to play a even or a hard match, so they dc and go for easy ones.

[Nude by Nightlight]

i dont want to sweat as survivor if the killer is sweating/tunneling/slugging at 5 gens. so i'll just die and go next. bonus if they waste a bp offering. i wont give them the satisfaction of getting more bp from me if i can help it.

[𝓫𝓸𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓰.]

Originally posted by Nude by Nightlight:

i dont want to sweat as survivor if the killer is sweating/tunneling/slugging at 5 gens. so i'll just die and go next. bonus if they waste a bp offering. i wont give them the satisfaction of getting more bp from me if i can help it.

All fun and games until it happens to you, right?

[Hunterelfss]

Originally posted by ClockworkReaper:

Everyone here giving up has been the reason why games are lost, I have stayed in some of the most heinous starts and have gotten at least 2 people out from it, I have stayed in some of the worst games where 1 guy is instantly tunnelled and people are getting slugged and we still got a 4 out, Survivors giving up are the reason why a game is lost if you refuse to give up you will escape and get others out a lot more than you would think, It's almost like utilising strategy and the killers time gives you a lot better of a chance.

The second you make the choice into turning a perfectly winnable/tie-able game to a 1v3 is when you have unironically failed as a teammate anyone justifying going next is one of the biggest problems in soloq and as long as people keep justifying it we will keep getting teams that are doomed to fail not because someone is playing bad/poorly but because someone is too selfish to even try.

The problem is, these survivors might have hundreds of games and only 5% of those games are winnable if they keep going. So based on their previous experience of the other 95% of games, they give up, because on average, the result is in a loss.

Why would you play to have a 5% chance of winning? That's not fun. The game design needs to change so that there is a comeback system. This is why the devs need to implement a gen speedup/slowdown based on gens and hooks.

To answer the OP's question earlier, this is relevant to people giving up on hook because if people feel they have no chance of winning based on their experience on playing hundreds of games in this situation, they give up. If the game introduced a system that allowed survivors or killers to come back from a normally unwinnable situation, then instead of winning 5% of those games, you might win 30% of those games. That improvement is what is needed to disincentivise dying on hook.

[CornChippy]

The developers hate solo survivors.

Don't play solo survivor.

[Reyxco]

It's gotten worse than usual. It's always been a thing yes but you are right that there's been a noticeable uptick, nearly every match.

[CorvusCorax]

Originally posted by Hunterelfss:

It's normal.

The only viable survivor games are SWF now.

Killer games are against mostly SWFs, so they are encouraged to tunnel or they lose.

If you are solo it is unplayable because the game is focused around killer vs SWF.

If not SWF, then you will have a miserable time. It's been like that for a long time.

As a solo player, the most fun games is killer. They are the games you have the highest chance of winning on as a solo player. While frustrating against SWFs, you have a higher chance of winning than playing solo queue survivor.

TL;DR, as a solo player, you're better off focusing on playing killer.

This is completely new to me. Something I started seeing during "Lights Out" and then now. DCs or give ups always happened but not with this frequency.

[orch82]

The problem dbd faces is a problem of their own making. The game cannot be balanced for solo swf and killer. If they gave survivors voice comms across the board they would not have to care about swfs because the end result would stay similiar. Killers would need buffs. Gen slowdown would need buffs. The nerfs that made perks useless would have to be walked back. The dc penalty should be staying around. I would much prefer a person get a dc penalty and i play with a bot than just some random doh cuz they are having a tantrum. There are solutions and we know from 2v8 that killers having voice comms mean survivors can too. So its on BHVR to make it happen. Survivor voice comms is a good idea.