It's BaSIcAllY fOrTnITE At This PoiNt!!!!!!!!!

[Eggsy]

So let me get this straight. Everyone is okay with wannabe pop star characters, cutesy cosmetics, Nicolas Cage, a derivation of a character that was purely made up for this game, random goth chicks, teddy bear skins, but ya'll draw the line at... Lara Croft.

Lara Croft... the hot tomb raider and archaeologist from video games that features paranormal phenomenons and murder...

"It'S NoT HorROr, IT'S NoT hOrRor!" My Feng Min is wearing a bunny backpack, lion slippers, and a sleep mask. God forbid they add a video game character from a franchise where she's literally known to go into old abandoned buildings and find messed up stuff.

Ya'll are just looking for something to whine about at this point, because that's insane. ThEy TurNed My FavOuRite RagE InDUCing GaMe IntO kIdDie ForTniTe!!!!

[Powerfull]

Автор сообщения: EkidonaLangley

Doesn't instill fear, not a horror game. It's such a sweat fest competitive game it's not scary. Own it already.

[Sluzzy]

Just another Fortnite skin? A reasonable take. There is zero reason to buy Lara, it is simply an expensive skin that has zero effects on gameplay.

[Locomotion]

But she ain't horror, she is really not fit in dbd :(

[Chris!!]

The problem is that the game doesn't have a freezer for you to lock the butler inside.

Oh wait, yes it does. My bad.

[Etchasketch]

It's just a skin and new perks.

[アウトコールド]

Are you glad it's like Fortnite? i don't think Lara Croft is particularly tied to Fortnite. I don't play games on the Epic Store.

[Queen HawlSera]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/4417549985247938591/ - I posted an open letter about this, from what I understand, people are just pitching a fit because it wasn't Tommy Jarvis, Crayton Duke, Sam & Dean, Velma, Daphne, Shaggy, Peter Venkman, or whoever the hell they wanted.. and from people who don't understand that this Lara takes a lot of inspiration from the reboot, which was basically a jungle survival game... and jungle survival is kind of how a lot of horror movies go (Cannibal Holocaust, Predator)

Plus I could totally see Hag and Plague being villains in a Tomb Raider game.

That said, it is obvious they are either running out of viable horror licenses (note: Popular =/= Viable, the license holder has to say yes and many of them are stingy) or are trying hard to expand the game beyond Horror fans since.. Dungeons & Dragons isn't exactly a movie I put in during my Halloween Horror Movie Marathons.... and Castlevania while has spooky monsters, isn't really played for Horror as much as the power fantasy....

But hey, didn't we get Xenomorph and Chucky recently? I'm sure there will be plenty of Horror Characters in 2025, could be the year we finally get Springtrap or Jason.

But if this game does go the full fortnite, eh... well I just hope when they add Rick Sanchez they also add a Scary Terry skin for Freddy

[EkidonaLangley]

Автор сообщения: Powerfull

Doesn't instill fear, not a horror game. It's such a sweat fest competitive game it's not scary. Own it already.

This is a terrible and highly subjective metric to use to classify the objective genre of media.

Nosferatu (1922), Dracula (1931), and King Kong (1933) are all considered some of the biggest and best horror films ever created. They remain highly influential and important to the horror genre. Nosferatu is even getting a new version coming out soon. But are these films, again some of the biggest and most influential horror films of all time, not considered horror films anymore because what society found scary in the 1920s and 1930s is considered almost laughable by today's standards? Are these highly influential horror films now suddenly considered comedy films?

Dead By Daylight is a horror game. It is one of the game's biggest tags on Steam, Wikipedia calls it an asymmetrical horror game, the game's website calls it "The only game where horror’s greatest franchises collide." In their press release announcing The Casting of Frank Stone, BHVR stated: "Behaviour Interactive has unveiled The Casting of Frank Stone, a heart-pounding narrative game set in the world of the hit horror multiplayer [game], Dead by Daylight."

The only thing I am owning here is you, my guy. You might classify the game as a comedy game, but it is objectively and undeniably well within the horror genre.

[Queen HawlSera]

Автор сообщения: EkidonaLangley

Автор сообщения: Powerfull

Doesn't instill fear, not a horror game. It's such a sweat fest competitive game it's not scary. Own it already.

This is a terrible and highly subjective metric to use to classify the objective genre of media.

Nosferatu (1922), Dracula (1931), and King Kong (1933) are all considered some of the biggest and best horror films ever created. They remain highly influential and important to the horror genre. Nosferatu is even getting a new version coming out soon. But are these films, again some of the biggest and most influential horror films of all time, not considered horror films anymore because what society found scary in the 1920s and 1930s is considered almost laughable by today's standards? Are these highly influential horror films now suddenly considered comedy films?

Dead By Daylight is a horror game. It is one of the game's biggest tags on Steam, Wikipedia calls it an asymmetrical horror game, the game's website calls it "The only game where horror’s greatest franchises collide." In their press release announcing The Casting of Frank Stone, BHVR stated: "Behaviour Interactive has unveiled The Casting of Frank Stone, a heart-pounding narrative game set in the world of the hit horror multiplayer [game], Dead by Daylight."

The only thing I am owning here is you, my guy. You might classify the game as a comedy game, but it is objectively and undeniably well within the horror genre.

Hell, I'd argue that even more recent films aren't considered "scary" anymore, some of whom ARE in DBD. One of them is Evil Dead which is now thought of as a comedy more than a horror flick, but we still salivate over Ash Williams blessing us with his presence, and while Texas Chainsaw Massacre made Wes Craven a vegetarian, it just makes me want hot dogs.

[アウトコールド]

Автор сообщения: EkidonaLangley

Автор сообщения: Powerfull

Doesn't instill fear, not a horror game. It's such a sweat fest competitive game it's not scary. Own it already.

This is a terrible and highly subjective metric to use to classify the objective genre of media.

Nosferatu (1922), Dracula (1931), and King Kong (1933) are all considered some of the biggest and best horror films ever created. They remain highly influential and important to the horror genre. Nosferatu is even getting a new version coming out soon. But are these films, again some of the biggest and most influential horror films of all time, not considered horror films anymore because what society found scary in the 1920s and 1930s is considered almost laughable by today's standards? Are these highly influential horror films now suddenly considered comedy films?

Dead By Daylight is a horror game. It is one of the game's biggest tags on Steam, Wikipedia calls it an asymmetrical horror game, the game's website calls it "The only game where horror’s greatest franchises collide." In their press release announcing The Casting of Frank Stone, BHVR stated: "Behaviour Interactive has unveiled The Casting of Frank Stone, a heart-pounding narrative game set in the world of the hit horror multiplayer [game], Dead by Daylight."

The only thing I am owning here is you, my guy. You might classify the game as a comedy game, but it is objectively and undeniably well within the horror genre.

I don't see how sweat fest and horror are exclusive.

[Mors_Indecepta]

Автор сообщения: アウトコールド

Автор сообщения: EkidonaLangley

This is a terrible and highly subjective metric to use to classify the objective genre of media.

Nosferatu (1922), Dracula (1931), and King Kong (1933) are all considered some of the biggest and best horror films ever created. They remain highly influential and important to the horror genre. Nosferatu is even getting a new version coming out soon. But are these films, again some of the biggest and most influential horror films of all time, not considered horror films anymore because what society found scary in the 1920s and 1930s is considered almost laughable by today's standards? Are these highly influential horror films now suddenly considered comedy films?

Dead By Daylight is a horror game. It is one of the game's biggest tags on Steam, Wikipedia calls it an asymmetrical horror game, the game's website calls it "The only game where horror’s greatest franchises collide." In their press release announcing The Casting of Frank Stone, BHVR stated: "Behaviour Interactive has unveiled The Casting of Frank Stone, a heart-pounding narrative game set in the world of the hit horror multiplayer [game], Dead by Daylight."

The only thing I am owning here is you, my guy. You might classify the game as a comedy game, but it is objectively and undeniably well within the horror genre.

I don't see how sweat fest and horror are exclusive.

Agreed. An incompetent opponent does not make for good horror.

[i don't belong]

As long as its not dei lara croft im down.

[Queen HawlSera]

Автор сообщения: Voice of Terror

As long as its not dei lara croft im down.

What's "Dei Lara Croft" ?

[The Lost]

I mean it was basically Fortnite even 2 years before Lara came to the game. No need to pretend like DbD is a serious Horror Game.

[Queen HawlSera]

Автор сообщения: Red Lotus

I don't think the majority of people moaning about Lara know the games or films or books. Her main enemy is basically "The Plague". Indeed they could easily apply a DLC skin for Himiko. The places she goes, and the monsters she faces, and supernatural forces, are frankly more in line with a true horror game (or film), than most of the made up lore for home made characters. Another key villain is the "Monstrum", and she has regularly fought Mummies, Zombies and a lot of Demon Samurai, as it goes too. Also, her clothing is fairly average looking, She can easily be mixed up with Kate, Nea, Meg, or Zarina in game.

We left the damsel in distress trope behind, a long time ago in DBD. The major ones were nearly all in the game already. So the game moved on to characters from SAW, Stranger Things, Silent Hill and Resident Evil. And Ash Williams from Evil Dead is not a far cry from Ms Croft. How is Lara that different to Ada or Sheeva, or Lisa the cop? Or Jill Valentine? And Rebecca, (who has a cowgirl outfit!) And what about Ripley?? And lets not forget we have an odd elf woman now from D&D? (And that I agree is a questionable choice).

I agree more horror film characters are needed to keep it mostly horror. I'd still like to see Sidney Prescott, Kirsty from Hellraiser, and Mia from Evil Dead. And personally, i'd love to see a giant spider thing, (that perhaps talks like the one in that Adam Sandler film).. Or something bio-lumenescent dragon like thing, on a darker map, or two (see for example the film Outlander) Certainly the home made characters, should be helping to take it back to its roots, not further away from them.

People have asked for years for a Werewolf. I think that could be a simple and effective addition. Maybe have them walk around in human form with no terror radius or m1 or m2 power. So they have to change. Things like that...

A shopping mall would be a cool map, since they have been in so many horror films, and games (world war z, left for dead, last of us). And maybe one as a semi collapsed tower block, or sub-way station. Also, it might be interesting to have some water to wade through. Or a bridge to cross somehow. Not talking major structures or big spans. A fairground is also common in horror films. (Also was in Left4Dead)

Any who, I really liked the idea of lights out. Perhaps they could make a "Classic Slasher" mode, using the classic slasher characters. Maybe do that when they get Jason, and add my three pack of key missing slasher chicks for Xmas 2024.

This. To be honest, only the first Evil Dead is a Horror film, the are largely Action Movies with Dark Comedy... Heck Army of Darkness is basically a Swords & Sorcery movie that happens to have some characters that were in a Horror movie

I'd even go as far as to say Chucky's movies are mostly Dark Comedy movies after the first one, and that Alien is only "A slasher movie in space!" in the first entry and is largely action focused after that (with Alien: Isolation being the only thing to really try to pivot it back to horror)

So we obviously left "True Horror" ages ago if Lara Croft doesn't qualify.