Why do most killers bring Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance and Pop Goes the Weasel as their perks?

[味味Aパイコーチキン麺]

Does this widespread use suggest that these two abilities are very powerful? Is it necessary to revise them again?

[Lyzer]

No. On the contrary, since generators are repaired very quickly, it is imperative to take these perks. Play a match without any generator perk and see what I mean. Matches end in 3-4 minutes. Even though I want to use different perks, survivors never allow it.

[MarbleThrone]

Because they are two of the strongest gen regression perks at the moment. Especially now with the recently implemented mechanic that allows you to only damage each generator max 8 times. This means that every regression has to count, you want to inflict the most damage, and these perks do that very well.

[Itchy.Tasty.]

Those perks can be awfully powerful and in the case of Pain Resonance it encourages tunnelling so you don't waste all your tokens on gens without progress. Like alot of Perks both Survivor and Killer some perks are just over the top strong and needs a hard nerf whilst other perks are so incredibly bad that your probs better running no perk in that slot.
Some Perks that come to mind are, Background Player, Ultimate Weapon ( People don't realise how broken this perk is at the moment its just as bad as before ), Adrenaline, Buckle Up + FTP, Grim Embrace, NOED.
Problem is there is too many Perks, their running out of ideas for perks and so many perks just feel samey and a handful of perks on both side just stand head n shoulders above rest in terms of being usable or completely overpowered.

[Itchy.Tasty.]

Originally posted by Lyzer:

No. On the contrary, since generators are repaired very quickly, it is imperative to take these perks. Play a match without any generator perk and see what I mean. Matches end in 3-4 minutes. Even though I want to use different perks, survivors never allow it.

Gen Defense perks are not a necessity. You can easily 3 or 4k matches without the need to stack every gen regression perk, this is where most killers make same mistake, they all stack gen regression, and bring very few other perks to help with chases then wonder why they never get kills.

[Viper401]

Originally posted by Lyzer:

No. On the contrary, since generators are repaired very quickly, it is imperative to take these perks. Play a match without any generator perk and see what I mean. Matches end in 3-4 minutes. Even though I want to use different perks, survivors never allow it.

Tme to repair a gen had never change...

[Sluzzy]

The game was hodgepodge balanced for finishing 5 gens. Pain Resonance alone requires survivors to finish 6 gens. I think it is self explanatory why they are overused.

[Facu]

I mean taking into account that some killers need more "help" from perks than others and that there are no real competition in the gen regression category well yeah, those gonna be used a lot cause you have 8 times to made the regression count. Why bother with CoB or Distressing or Surge, etc if you cant count on them cause A) You need to go and kick the gen and it gets slowly regressed and B) You dont want to waste time going from gen to gen all the time to get less value that with PoP.

[Pixie Stix ★]

Revising them is not needed, Nerfing perks is not needed. We need to play better. I'm survivor main, who can not loop for more than 10 seconds. I rarely play killer. But it is my job to get better not demand killer be made harder to play.

[Raft]

If they're going to make the killer use other perks, other unpopular killer perks need to be buffed and/or the popular killer perk needs to be nerfed.

It's more of an adjustment to account for the 8x max damage per gen rule, which indirectly nerfed certain perks. Unless they decide to revise that rule instead.

[Zelph]

Originally posted by Killedcupid:

Revising them is not needed, Nerfing perks is not needed. We need to play better. I'm survivor main, who can not loop for more than 10 seconds. I rarely play killer. But it is my job to get better not demand killer be made harder to play.

Nerfs are needed sometimes. Not in this case, but sometimes.

[Tokogawa [GER]]

No you dont nerf anything thats good. How about we buff a few of the 95% of Perks nobody brings because they are borderline useless?

And Pain Resonance and Pop are so widely used because they are good Anti-Gen Perks (honestly the only ones left tbh)

[Shinkiro]

Originally posted by Tokogawa GER:

And Pain Resonance and Pop are so widely used because they are good Anti-Gen Perks (honestly the only ones left tbh)

This, theres not much reason to take anything else anymore. Everything else was nerfed and its either too niche, too conditional, or has potential to waste your limited gen regressions which is something you cant really do.

If they want build diversity then stop nerfing things every time survivors complain

[ObsidianButterfly]

I'm not a particular fan of Pain Res, despite how strong it clearly is. I don't really like Scourge Hook perks in general, honestly. I prefer Grim Embrace over it since it isn't dependent on specific hooks that might not be close enough to get to (and god forbid it gets sabotaged on the way there). If I use any scourge hooks, I use Floods of Rage since it is permanent and doesn't turn off after hooking everyone once.

[Zelgadis]

I tried to run other builds but every time I do I get people who have Distortion, finds my hex at the start of the match, or a survivor who just predrops pallets. So all killers have at this point is good old reliable gen regression perks.

[Azelinuu]

Originally posted by Itchy.Tasty.:

Those perks can be awfully powerful and in the case of Pain Resonance it encourages tunnelling.

you only get the gen damage effect if the Survivor hasn't been hooked on a Scourge before, so how?