Hillbilly nerf

[The Shogun]

Hillbilly is too good at two things; Movement (speed of traversal of map) and the instadowns.

Simply remove the instadown on his chainsaw, or make him a reskin of The Cannibal.

[Sir Tontonolous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmVtBctjbUM

[Leafster !!]

absolutely not...

[The Shogun]

Originally posted by Sir Tontonolous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmVtBctjbUM

No argument? Kinda bad from you... no?

[The Shogun]

Originally posted by malhiluvu:

HillWilliam is just fine, I honestly don't even see that many Billys anymore, only a 1 or 2 a day it seems like.

I still see more Weskers than any other killer.

Not seeing him is not an argument. Strong != Played Highly if he is boring to play

[The Shogun]

Originally posted by Leafster !!:

absolutely not...

No arguement

[PankZ]

I agree, it's extremely strong, this needs to be nerfed

[76561199527576832]

Bruh you're looking for an argument while saying " remove the instadown and make him a skin for the cannibal "
amazing

[Sir Tontonolous]

Originally posted by The Shogun:

Originally posted by Sir Tontonolous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmVtBctjbUM

No argument? Kinda bad from you... no?

Alright, the long answer.

Regardless of whether Billy is actually too strong now or not (I do not think so personally), I do not trust BHVR to touch him ever again. They tried tuning him down, and he was turned into a joke. They tried bringing him back, and they introduced an unnecessary mechanic because they refused to let their work go to waste.

I have more faith in BHVR than most people do, I think 8.1.0 is going to be a fantastic midchapter, but if they never touch Billy's kit again, it'll be too soon.

[Leafster !!]

Originally posted by The Shogun:

Originally posted by Leafster !!:

absolutely not...

No arguement

what is there to argue about? sounds like a genuine skill issue on your part for not knowing how to loop the killer.... have you tried playing billy? turning with the chainsaw can be literal hell. I think the hillbilly is fine where he currently is and you just need to learn to play against the killer instead of complain about how "overpowered" he is.... think about this from a non-survivor perspective for a second. it takes skill to use the chainsaw as killer and hours upon hours to let alone master it. if I played against a super good hillbilly, id personally compliment them for their skill rather than argue that he needs his abilities removed. youre looking for an argument yet wont provide more detail on these subjects. you are plainly stating they need removed instead of offering changes that could balance the killer out more. The hillbilly is fine and doesnt need changed or removed, get good.

[The Shogun]

Originally posted by Sir Tontonolous:

Originally posted by The Shogun:

No argument? Kinda bad from you... no?

Alright, the long answer.

Regardless of whether Billy is actually too strong now or not (I do not think so personally), I do not trust BHVR to touch him ever again. They tried tuning him down, and he was turned into a joke. They tried bringing him back, and they introduced an unnecessary mechanic because they refused to let their work go to waste.

I have more faith in BHVR than most people do, I think 8.1.0 is going to be a fantastic midchapter, but if they never touch Billy's kit again, it'll be too soon.

But like that's not an argument though - why do you think he is not too strong right now. Should we not nerf characters that were weak before? That is a bad precident.

[The Shogun]

Originally posted by Leafster !!:

Originally posted by The Shogun:

No arguement

what is there to argue about? sounds like a genuine skill issue on your part for not knowing how to loop the killer.... have you tried playing billy? turning with the chainsaw can be literal hell. I think the hillbilly is fine where he currently is and you just need to learn to play against the killer instead of complain about how "overpowered" he is.... think about this from a non-survivor perspective for a second. it takes skill to use the chainsaw as killer and hours upon hours to let alone master it. if I played against a super good hillbilly, id personally compliment them for their skill rather than argue that he needs his abilities removed. youre looking for an argument yet wont provide more detail on these subjects. you are plainly stating they need removed instead of offering changes that could balance the killer out more. The hillbilly is fine and doesnt need changed or removed, get good.

How do you loop a character going mach ten?

[The Shogun]

Originally posted by PankZ7:

I agree, it's extremely strong, this :evildeer: needs to be nerfed

Glad you agree. Needs toned down

[erandomone]

Originally posted by The Shogun:

Originally posted by Leafster !!:

what is there to argue about? sounds like a genuine skill issue on your part for not knowing how to loop the killer.... have you tried playing billy? turning with the chainsaw can be literal hell. I think the hillbilly is fine where he currently is and you just need to learn to play against the killer instead of complain about how "overpowered" he is.... think about this from a non-survivor perspective for a second. it takes skill to use the chainsaw as killer and hours upon hours to let alone master it. if I played against a super good hillbilly, id personally compliment them for their skill rather than argue that he needs his abilities removed. youre looking for an argument yet wont provide more detail on these subjects. you are plainly stating they need removed instead of offering changes that could balance the killer out more. The hillbilly is fine and doesnt need changed or removed, get good.

How do you loop a character going mach ten?

"No argument? Please provide argument or don't bother comme[n]ting"

[The Shogun]

Originally posted by erandomone:

Originally posted by The Shogun:

How do you loop a character going mach ten?

"No argument? Please provide argument or don't bother comme[n]ting"

"No argument? Please provide argument or don't bother comme[n]ting" [/quote

[Sir Tontonolous]

Originally posted by The Shogun:

Originally posted by Sir Tontonolous:

Alright, the long answer.

Regardless of whether Billy is actually too strong now or not (I do not think so personally), I do not trust BHVR to touch him ever again. They tried tuning him down, and he was turned into a joke. They tried bringing him back, and they introduced an unnecessary mechanic because they refused to let their work go to waste.

I have more faith in BHVR than most people do, I think 8.1.0 is going to be a fantastic midchapter, but if they never touch Billy's kit again, it'll be too soon.

But like that's not an argument though - why do you think he is not too strong right now. Should we not nerf characters that were weak before? That is a bad precident.

Do not stuff words in my mouth. All I said is that I do not trust BHVR to touch Billy again.

I think his original design was a very good example of a killer that was strong and capable, but didn't overstep his boundaries like Nurse and Blight do now. He seemingly has everything a killer could want on paper, but good survivors could throw him for a massive loop unless he too knew what he was doing. Losing to a Billy always felt fair, and even nowadays, I still think this is the case. Sure, he can move at "Mach 10," but he has a hell of a time trying to control that reliably, and even when a Billy does have a handle on that, it still comes down to what a survivor does a large chunk of the time.