Victor is Broken/Busted in ptb (Twins OP)

[Cyvanix]

The Twins can down a survivor in less than 5 seconds after the first hit. lol
I'd rather get slugged any day over this broken mess.
At least slugging takes a certain amount of skill in comparison to this nonsense.
Pretty good job so far

[Nude by Nightlight]

ghostface can down with his power too, and billy, AND leatherface... AND alien, huntress, trapper, wraith, chucky, trickster, unknown, nurse, blight, knight, hag... and others. this isnt any different the twins are finally getting reworked to be interesting.

[Rank21]

Twins are very known to be the best sluggers on DbD...

[ttv/xarenth]

Originally posted by Nude by Nightlight:

ghostface can down with his power too, and billy, AND leatherface... AND alien, huntress, trapper, wraith, chucky, trickster, unknown, nurse, blight, knight, hag... and others. this isnt any different the twins are finally getting reworked to be interesting.

why are you intentionally being obtuse? the op's complaint is about the insane speed at which you can get two tapped. most killers rely on you making a mistake to two tap you quickly, or instadowns/quick downs are rewards for skill or zoning. landing hits with victor is pretty easy

and, to the op, i will miss the slugging identity+focus of OG twins. yeah, it can feel kinda miserable sometimes, but it was a pretty unique playstyle compared to just about every other killer

[Chaos_JpgTTV]

Originally posted by Nude by Nightlight:

ghostface can down with his power too, and billy, AND leatherface... AND alien, huntress, trapper, wraith, chucky, trickster, unknown, nurse, blight, knight, hag... and others. this isnt any different the twins are finally getting reworked to be interesting.

Normally even I'd agree with this, but Victor can get a down VERY quickly by himself and almost guaranteed to do so unless survivors are at a loop. And even then, against a good Twins, windows and pallets are just a suggestion.

[Nude by Nightlight]

Originally posted by X:

Originally posted by Nude by Nightlight:

ghostface can down with his power too, and billy, AND leatherface... AND alien, huntress, trapper, wraith, chucky, trickster, unknown, nurse, blight, knight, hag... and others. this isnt any different the twins are finally getting reworked to be interesting.

why are you intentionally being obtuse? the op's complaint is about the insane speed at which you can get two tapped. most killers rely on you making a mistake to two tap you quickly, or instadowns/quick downs are rewards for skill or zoning. landing hits with victor is pretty easy

and, to the op, i will miss the slugging identity+focus of OG twins. yeah, it can feel kinda miserable sometimes, but it was a pretty unique playstyle compared to just about every other killer

because this happens every single time. new killer comes out=OP. killer gets a rework=OP. its happened with every killer and rework thus far... and what happens after? people get used to it and it isnt a big deal anymore.

[StopItStepBro]

the entire PTB seems to be lacking any sort of quality control, it seems like they made multiple major changes with zero testing beforehand.

[Grandpa Crack Pipe]

Twins can't go live as-is.

I choose to believe that you'll wise up and do.. something about them before they hit live servers, but the fact that they got this far to begin with is damning.

Did you not learn from old legion? Did you think everyone forgot about that? Except this time we don't even have the courtesy of being able to DC against them without a penalty.

If they somehow do go live like this, that's.. actually going to be devastating to the game, I think. That's impressive. I literally couldn't think of a bigger blunder over the past half a decade.

[Nude by Nightlight]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Originally posted by Nude by Nightlight:

ghostface can down with his power too, and billy, AND leatherface... AND alien, huntress, trapper, wraith, chucky, trickster, unknown, nurse, blight, knight, hag... and others. this isnt any different the twins are finally getting reworked to be interesting.

Normally even I'd agree with this, but Victor can get a down VERY quickly by himself and almost guaranteed to do so unless survivors are at a loop. And even then, against a good Twins, windows and pallets are just a suggestion.

know who else windows and palets are a suggestion for? trapper, alien, huntress, nurse, nemesis, chucky, unknown, pyramid head, plague... a lot of killers, including victor, can be dodged with moving out of the way. victor misses a jump. kick him. all you have to do.

[Nude by Nightlight]

Originally posted by StopItStepBro:

the entire PTB seems to be lacking any sort of quality control, it seems like they made multiple major changes with zero testing beforehand.

thats what the player test build is for... to test before the full release.

[State Line Crosser]

Originally posted by Nude by Nightlight:

because this happens every single time. new killer comes out=OP. killer gets a rework=OP. its happened with every killer and rework thus far... and what happens after? people get used to it and it isnt a big deal anymore.

If this goes live bhvr is gonna slap a 120 s cd on victor. It's just a bad rework.

Originally posted by Nude by Nightlight:

thats what the player test build is for... to test before the full release.

You've been around long enough to know this isn't what happens.

[Chaos_JpgTTV]

Originally posted by Nude by Nightlight:

Originally posted by Chaos:

Normally even I'd agree with this, but Victor can get a down VERY quickly by himself and almost guaranteed to do so unless survivors are at a loop. And even then, against a good Twins, windows and pallets are just a suggestion.

know who else windows and palets are a suggestion for? trapper, alien, huntress, nurse, nemesis, chucky, unknown, pyramid head, plague... a lot of killers, including victor, can be dodged with moving out of the way. victor misses a jump. kick him. all you have to do.

At least with those killers you need planning or good enough aim to bypass them. With Victor and his speed, you can keep pressure far more than even Xenomorph.

I am not one to nerf a killer because of it being a challenge, but Victor's changes is more than a challenge, it's basically rapid fire compared to the killers you listed.

[Intrusive♡Thots]

Luckily the ptb is to test it out, so they might be able to change this, I still hope for a buff tho!

[Nude by Nightlight]

Originally posted by State Line Crosser:

You've been around long enough to know this isn't what happens.

to be fair! i never said it was effective

[The Toblin]

Yes, and none of this is going to make it to live. Can we stop hyperboling already?

[dragonoftime27]

Originally posted by Nude by Nightlight:

Originally posted by X:

why are you intentionally being obtuse? the op's complaint is about the insane speed at which you can get two tapped. most killers rely on you making a mistake to two tap you quickly, or instadowns/quick downs are rewards for skill or zoning. landing hits with victor is pretty easy

and, to the op, i will miss the slugging identity+focus of OG twins. yeah, it can feel kinda miserable sometimes, but it was a pretty unique playstyle compared to just about every other killer

because this happens every single time. new killer comes out=OP. killer gets a rework=OP. its happened with every killer and rework thus far... and what happens after? people get used to it and it isnt a big deal anymore.

i have also noticed this