People ruining games

[venom]

Hello, everyone. I hope you have a great day. I want to ask the community of DBD who plays or understands the situation more than me. I have 400h in this game and I feel pretty confident about my skill. However, when I reach 1st gold I always (1 time in 2 games) see many ruiners. They start to ruin hooks at the beginning of the game, chase maniacs (to ask for mercy), stop and tbag other surfs. And, honestly, this situation in my case is super common.
I also don't understand why people also start to ruin when they see perk "Invocation: Weaving Spiders". I understand that this perk is situational, but usually other surfs start to bring maniacs to circle and ruin the whole game. I just can't understand this. Tell me pls, maybe I do smth wrong? Or this perk is bad?

[GuePè Supa Lova]

is the perk bad? absolutely yes.

the other survivors are looping the killer the whole game? then do generators, i don't get the problem

[asa0199]

I'm no fan of Invoking, but if I see a No Mither trotting off to the basement, I'll follow them to help them just so we can get it over with faster.

[🅸🅲🅴🅸🅲🅴🅱🅰🅱🆈]

"i have 400 hours and am pretty confident in my skill"

well, there's your problem.

[daisyjord | twitch]

the perk itself is a little annoying, its pretty situational as i have yet to see it really help at all in game. more often than not the game usually ends pretty quickly and bad if theres someone using the perk in a match. im not one to tell people they shouldnt run perks that they want to though. with how long it takes tho it turns the game into a 3v1 from the start which ends up making the game start badly. as for survivors that wanna be chased by the killers, i dont see how thats a problem, let them be chased and do gens while they are. some people find that more fun than doing gens. 400 hours might seem like a lot, but even now for me at 1.6k im still learning and figuring out the game even more, you will too :)

[venom]

Originally posted by Oh deer:

"i have 400 hours and am pretty confident in my skill"

well, there's your problem.

Dude, I understand that you've played more than me in this game and that your ego can't accept that a person with 400 hours in the game can feel confident. But when I wrote that, I wasn't trying to compare myself to anyone; I was just pointing out that I'm not ruining games and I clearly understand what and how to do things in the game (and looking at other survivors in the game with over 1k hours, I'm holding up pretty well). But I still don't understand how your comment answers my question: why do people ruin games from the 0 minute after they see that I took a perk, which IS PART OF THE GAME?

[venom]

Originally posted by GuePe Papi Chulo:

is the perk bad? absolutely yes.

the other survivors are looping the killer the whole game? then do generators, i don't get the problem

The problem is that people ruin the game from 0 minute. So I didn't get it.

[venom]

Originally posted by asa0199:

I'm no fan of Invoking, but if I see a No Mither trotting off to the basement, I'll follow them to help them just so we can get it over with faster.

Thank you for sharing. Next time I would try to use it only at party.

[venom]

Originally posted by dumber:

the perk itself is a little annoying, its pretty situational as i have yet to see it really help at all in game. more often than not the game usually ends pretty quickly and bad if theres someone using the perk in a match. im not one to tell people they shouldnt run perks that they want to though. with how long it takes tho it turns the game into a 3v1 from the start which ends up making the game start badly. as for survivors that wanna be chased by the killers, i dont see how thats a problem, let them be chased and do gens while they are. some people find that more fun than doing gens. 400 hours might seem like a lot, but even now for me at 1.6k im still learning and figuring out the game even more, you will too :)

When I said that survivors who ruin the game chase the killer, I meant that they chase the killer just to DIE, not to waste his time. They ruin the first hook and after smb saves them, they immediately start to chase the killer and tbag for mercy. But now I see that this perk isn't good, thank you for sharing :) I will try to avoid this perk when I play solo. I just don't get why the community is so mad about a perk that is in the game. It's just a game, but people want to sweat there. (I am saying this after 6k hours in DOTA 2, btw)

[Narrowmind]

You're going overboard defending yourself.

If the perk is I the game, it's on you to determine its usefulness. If the survivors want to give up, that has nothing at all to do with you. Run with what you want. You've done nothing wrong.

[venom]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

You're going overboard defending yourself.

If the perk is I the game, it's on you to determine its usefulness. If the survivors want to give up, that has nothing at all to do with you. Run with what you want. You've done nothing wrong.

My friend, read carefully what BHVR considers griefing and unsportsmanlike behavior in the game. And look closely at the point that says they should ban for it. In many other online projects, people actually get banned for this, but in the case of BHVR, it's hard to track. And yes, I'm not defending myself, I'm just stating the obvious: you can't ruin the game for others if you chose to search and found random teammates. But if you think it's okay to ruin the game for others, then I'm not surprised it happens every other game.

[venom]

Originally posted by Drok Grud:

Some people massively overplay. Get bored, and ruin the game for others. It increasingly seems like half the community are Ayrun or Otz wannabes, to the point it seems almost mandatory if you buy the game, you have to set up a Twitch account and streams to 1 -10 viiewers.

I'm back for the Anniversary event, but otherwise stay away to build up tolerance to the try hard takeover.

I completely agree with you. After playing for 400 hours, I've really noticed that the more I play, the less fun it becomes. DBD has a truly unique community: either you have the complete tryhards who ruin the game, complain, and sweat ridiculously (in a game that doesn't even have proper ranks), or you have super positive players who just play for fun because the game is genuinely unique in its own way. Unfortunately, the majority are the former type.

[Onichan]

Originally posted by Drok Grud:

Some people massively overplay. Get bored, and ruin the game for others. It increasingly seems like half the community are Ayrun or Otz wannabes, to the point it seems almost mandatory if you buy the game, you have to set up a Twitch account and streams to 1 -10 viiewers.

I'm back for the Anniversary event, but otherwise stay away to build up tolerance to the try hard takeover.

except for the fact that people are considering players who play to win and improve as the ones "ruining the game" just as a some way to cope with their skill never improving and them wanting easy wins

Originally posted by ferrari peek:

I completely agree with you. After playing for 400 hours, I've really noticed that the more I play, the less fun it becomes. DBD has a truly unique community: either you have the complete tryhards who ruin the game, complain, and sweat ridiculously (in a game that doesn't even have proper ranks), or you have super positive players who just play for fun because the game is genuinely unique in its own way. Unfortunately, the majority are the former type.

so, by your logic, people who play for fun don't want to win in a PvP game where nature of basically 99% of 0layers is to go for a win?.
Have you ever thought that people are just burnt out from the game and are looking for the way to project their burnout onto other players by trying to blame their opponents for playing sweaty and similar things?
Symptoms of burnout:
-starting to feel like your opponents are playing sweaty so often and thinking game is unfun because of that
-expecting others to abide by your gameplay style more and more often
-expecting opponents to hand you the wins in order for you to think they are "fun" opponents
-complaining at every sign of meta in opponents' build while being completely neutral about you/your team going meta
-refusal to further improve and just bpame opponents and devs for the state of the game

[venom]

[/quote]
so, by your logic, people who play for fun don't want to win in a PvP game where nature of basically 99% of 0layers is to go for a win?.
Have you ever thought that people are just burnt out from the game and are looking for the way to project their burnout onto other players by trying to blame their opponents for playing sweaty and similar things?
Symptoms of burnout:
-starting to feel like your opponents are playing sweaty so often and thinking game is unfun because of that
-expecting others to abide by your gameplay style more and more often
-expecting opponents to hand you the wins in order for you to think they are "fun" opponents
-complaining at every sign of meta in opponents' build while being completely neutral about you/your team going meta
-refusal to further improve and just bpame opponents and devs for the state of the game [/quote]

First of all, it's a computer game, and believe me, many people have much bigger concerns in life than just logging in every day to sweat for a rating. Secondly, DBD is not an e-sport and is far from the most difficult game (I've played plenty of challenging games: DOTA, CS, LOL (if we're talking about online), DS1-3, ELDEN RING, SEKIRO), and trust me, I've never encountered a community as whiny and dissatisfied as in DBD. Again, based on my observations, there are enough positive and pleasant players in the game, but as soon as my rank goes above Gold 3, I encounter a ruiner in every game who, after being hooked first, immediately starts ruining hooks and gets themselves killed by the killer. It's like if I started breaking items in DOTA and standing AFK at the base waiting for the game to end. Or if I just went AFK in CS while my teammates play 4 vs 5. My friend, I'm not burnt out or complaining about the state of the game (I didn't say a word that BHVR is bad, they just can't track such players), but because the game doesn't punish griefing and ruining. The concepts of GRIEFING and RUINING have become very blurred for the players (judging by all these comments). As a result, 90% of the comments under this post are justifications from those people who not only ruin everyone's mood in the game but also decrease the chance of winning to almost zero. That's why, after reading these justifying comments, I realized that people in DBD just don't know how to play as a team. Any game can be won, or at least you can try, even if you're the most skilled player in the game and have 3 noobs with you.

[Raft]

If you're playing solo queue, u need to understand that a lot of players are allergic to being the 1st one on hook. If you're invoking, they'll pass the killer to you.

I'm also not a fan of this invocation perk because whoever invokes will be broken for the rest of the match. Majority of players who invoke either can't run the killer, and/or can't do risky unhooks, and/or play too stealthy for the rest of the match.

In a lot of solo queue matches, the match is considered lost if any of the survivors brought no mither.

Solo queue is already difficult. Don't make it harder.

You should play in swf if you want to play risky builds. Some don't mind it. Others will stop playing with you.

[venom]

Originally posted by Raft:

If you're playing solo queue, u need to understand that a lot of players are allergic to being the 1st one on hook. If you're invoking, they'll pass the killer to you.

I'm also not a fan of this invocation perk because whoever invokes will be broken for the rest of the match. Majority of players who invoke either can't run the killer, and/or can't do risky unhooks, and/or play too stealthy for the rest of the match.

In a lot of solo queue matches, the match is considered lost if any of the survivors brought no mither.

Solo queue is already difficult. Don't make it harder.

You should play in swf if you want to play risky builds. Some don't mind it. Others will stop playing with you.

Thank you for the clear response on the situation. Really. I just wondered why people so mad that I want to use different builds. 90% of the games I play meta build, but anyway there are a lot of players who ruin hooks for no reason, in my opinion.