New to Nemesis

[RogueRooster]

Hey guys, just got Nemesis and....idk what im doing wrong with him? most of my matches are unfortunately 3 to all survivors escaping, the whip is tricky to get used to since u gotta hit them in total of 3 times, and the zombies....can be op sometimes, but most of the time they just get in the way. Any nemesis tips that could help would be appreciated XD. The RE killers are my favorite, but wesker feels alot easier to play imo.

[Solo4Life]

i would prob not reccomend using the whip in the open as its quite easy to dodge so normally i hit them when they go to a pallet or window you can also sorta slid the tentacles hit box its weird to explain otz has a video on that i think but yea also discordance attracts zombies prob dont rely on zombies to bully ppl of gens as the ai pathing is not the best you can kill them with ur tenticle to help you reach tier 2 you can also hit survivors over some obstacles like a desk or anything with similer height i think the biggest tip tho is prob learn when and when not to use the tentacle

[Cat Night]

I don't play killer that much, but Nemesis is my favourite killer. I usually start with trying to get all 4 survivors infected (maybe with some help of lethal pursuer) so you get to tier 2 and can use the whip to break pallets fast. Holding out the whip slows you down and if survivors play well around that you can't catch up, so I think it's practice to see when it's viable. Also like to use the fast zombies + bigger range detection addon.

[CorvusCorax]

I recommend that you use the mutation rate add-ons so that you can have that level up as fast as possible. They are very useful since your zombies can assist with the mutation when killed.

[Jah'Raksha]

Nemesis tech or nemi tech
If u want to win as nemi u must know how to abuse this
Check some vids, don't rely much on zombies, AI is stupid
Play more for the feels of whip, u miss - u lose
Don't be afraid to m1, sometimes its better to m1 then whip

[erandomone]

I play a pretty "brain dead chase 'em down" nemesis, and it works pretty well. Surge, Bamboozle, and maybe some aura perks or stbfl.
Tentacle whip folk that are in choke points or going to vault, get good at dragging the whip left or right to catch folk that dodge a little too late, and otherwise just smack folk around.
Just remember that stbfl now loses stacks on obsession tentacle hits as well, so don't treat them any different :D

[Crazy muffin]

I used to main nemesis.
Tips
1- use corrupt intervention and dont go for down early and only go for some infection the goal is to infect all of them early or make them use vaccine early.

2- many say his addon are trash the thing is only the zombie addon and the iri addon are bad the rest of the addon are all usefull.

3- get use to use the whip when survivor vault or drop pallet and when you are use to the speed you can go for open field whip just be carefull in some map you cant see well cause of the tall grass like the dwamp map or the cornfield.

4- you can slide the whip it that really usefull around some loop like any car loop.

5- discordance and CoB can activate the zombie to go to the gen were those perk activate.

6- dont use save the best for last its not good on him unless you want to tunnel of hook.

If i have any other tip i can think about i will comment again.

[Solo4Life]

Originally posted by Crazy muffin:

I used to main nemesis.
Tips
1- use corrupt intervention and dont go for down early and only go for some infection the goal is to infect all of them early or make them use vaccine early.

2- many say his addon are trash the thing is only the zombie addon and the iri addon are bad the rest of the addon are all usefull.

3- get use to use the whip when survivor vault or drop pallet and when you are use to the speed you can go for open field whip just be carefull in some map you cant see well cause of the tall grass like the dwamp map or the cornfield.

4- you can slide the whip it that really usefull around some loop like any car loop.

5- discordance and CoB can activate the zombie to go to the gen were those perk activate.

6- dont use save the best for last its not good on him unless you want to tunnel of hook.

If i have any other tip i can think about i will comment again.

does cob actually trigger the zombies?

[Ren Stoker]

Nemesis's add-ons are not "the best" per se, but zombies are your best friends, so equip zombie speed add-ons such as Mikael'e eye and "Someone's" intestines. And when you're chasing, if a zombie is nearby, try to zone in the survivor towards the zombie.

Don't always try to whip them. Sometimes, it's best to M1 them, especially if the survivors are smart and know how to outplay you. But they can't outplay your punches.

As for perks, I don't know what to recommend really. Most games I only use like two of my perks, one of them being Lightborn.

[Crazy muffin]

Originally posted by Sentient Shadow:

Originally posted by Crazy muffin:

I used to main nemesis.
Tips
1- use corrupt intervention and dont go for down early and only go for some infection the goal is to infect all of them early or make them use vaccine early.

2- many say his addon are trash the thing is only the zombie addon and the iri addon are bad the rest of the addon are all usefull.

3- get use to use the whip when survivor vault or drop pallet and when you are use to the speed you can go for open field whip just be carefull in some map you cant see well cause of the tall grass like the dwamp map or the cornfield.

4- you can slide the whip it that really usefull around some loop like any car loop.

5- discordance and CoB can activate the zombie to go to the gen were those perk activate.

6- dont use save the best for last its not good on him unless you want to tunnel of hook.

If i have any other tip i can think about i will comment again.

does cob actually trigger the zombies?

Yes it does i used to run that perk a lot before the nerf and it always trigger the zombie

[RogueRooster]

ty for the info guys :D im starting to get the hang of nemesis. i've even watched some youtube vids saying the exact same thing as some are mentioning here. At the beginning dont commit to chases untill your whip is atleast tier 2, and infect all.

[RogueRooster]

The other thing im struggling with is a decent perk build, im not sure what im supposed to be going for.

[State Line Crosser]

Originally posted by RogueRooster:

The other thing im struggling with is a decent perk build, im not sure what im supposed to be going for.

Corrupt intervention and as much slowdown as you feel you need. I wouldn't recommend trying to synergize perks with the zombies. It can work but it can also do absolutely nothing and you have no way of influencing this.

[Nubbles]

Tips... Use the whip a lot, you need to get better with it. You can hit over some objects but not others and some only when the survivor doesn't crouch. You just have to practice it a lot. You'll miss a lot at first, but every miss is an opportunity to learn. Also, you can drag the whip with the a and d buttons. If you aim a little to the left and drag to the right, or vice versa, you will hit much more.

As far as the macro aspect, getting to tier 2 asap is your number 1 objective. Hitting 2 different uncontaminated survivors gets you there. Basically you need 6 "pips" to level up to level 2. Hitting a survivor that hasn't been contaminated gives 3/6th progression, hitting a zombie or contaminated survivor gives 1/6th progression, without add ons. Marvins blood allows you to hit 1 survivor 3 times and level up the whip, otherwise, leave your first chase after you hit them. When you get to tier 2, tunnel. Nemesis is not a very strong killer, it's hard to hold a 3 gen, spreading pressure is difficult with him, but the thing he does well is chase someone right away after unhook. You probably need 2 fewer whip hits on that survivor and a lot of loops are unsafe against him.

The zombies are atracted to loud noise notifications, so perks like discordance and pain resonance can make the zombies useful. They'll start annoying survivors on gens, slowing gen progression, which is usually the best use of a zombie.

[TTV/ShadowlessCynic]

There are multiple perks on each side, killer and survivor, that help with a zombies detection. Might be missing a few but here they are.

Survivor perks:
Deception, Diversion, and Red Herring

Killer perks:
Discordance, Eruption, Hoarder, No Way Out, Scourge Hook: Hangman's Trick, Spies from the Shadows, Tinkerer, and also any perk that makes the survivor scream which creates a Loud Noise.

I recommend Discordance as it has always helped me with Nemesis and most other killers. I dont recommend just using these perks of course but having a few helps your zombies find survivors. As others have said, corrupt intervention is always a solid choice for Nemesis.

[Lobsterkuln]

Nemesis is my main.

I like using the two Zombie Speed add-ons over the others along with Sloppy Butcher. Makes it to where Zombies can find survivors fast and can stop heals and generally be annoying. Most people do not like the Zombie Add-ons but I like using the speed ones so the zombies can be more of a nuisance. You can experiment and see what perks you like but I always keep Sloppy on since it can reset their healing if a zombie rolls up on them.

Learn how to drag the whip and hit someone. When you whip can you move left or right and the whip will STILL hit them if you time it right. You should be aiming to whip even when out in the open so dragging the whip and hitting someone helps when they're in the open. Direct hit is harder to do when they're watching you in the open.

Watch videos and learn how to hit people with your whip around corners too. It may not look like you can but sometimes you can literally whip someone's ass as they're running around the corner.

I used to run Marvin's Blood until they nerfed it but my first chases always go quick enough that I can down the first survivor and then find the second one to reach stage 2.