Dark arrogance, idea/change

[LORDDEREX (Beta)]

I would have it this way

After a survivor does a fast action in chase this perk activates for 60 sec
When active
Vault speed +10%
Immune to blind/stun for 10 sec
after a vault this perk goes on cooldown for 60 sec

[Broccoli & Cheese]

A simple way is to remove the downside completely and remains the vault speed.

I don't understand why such perk requires downside - "Increases the duration you are blinded and the duration of pallet stuns by 25%.", considering it is not even a strong perk. Although I don't play killer myself, why would killer use this perk instead of bamboozle (except they want to make a super fast vault build).

[Zelph]

Originally posted by Broccoli & Cheese:

A simple way is to remove the downside completely and remains the vault speed.

I don't understand why such perk requires downside - "Increases the duration you are blinded and the duration of pallet stuns by 25%.", considering it is not even a strong perk. Although I don't play killer myself, why would killer use this perk instead of bamboozle (except they want to make a super fast vault build).

Bam is 10% slower, which is pretty substantial. Its like bam vs no bam, except its bam vs something almost double the speed boost. You COULD also run both and have 40% faster vault speed, which means survivors would get no where on vaults.

[State Line Crosser]

Originally posted by Zelph:

You COULD also run both and have 40% faster vault speed, which means survivors would get no where on vaults.

Vault speed bonuses are not amazing together. SA is all you ever need if going through a window fast is what you want.

One idea I've seen around is to make it like fire up where all actions are 25% faster. That might make the absurd downside to the perk make sense.

[Revenge319]

Originally posted by Broccoli & Cheese:

A simple way is to remove the downside completely and remains the vault speed.

I don't understand why such perk requires downside - "Increases the duration you are blinded and the duration of pallet stuns by 25%.", considering it is not even a strong perk. Although I don't play killer myself, why would killer use this perk instead of bamboozle (except they want to make a super fast vault build).

Honestly, I think they should increase the downside. I like the idea of having 25% vault speed, but when I tried Dark Arrogance in the PTB, I couldn't really tell that the stuns and blinds were any longer than normal. 33% or even 50% increased stun/blind would be more suitable for this perk (anything over 50% would probably be overkill, though). If they removed the downside, then there'd be not much reason to use Bamboozle, Fire Up, or Superior Anatomy as a vault speed perk unless you're going for a maximum vault speed build and including all four anyway.