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Absolute illusion (Banned) Mar 3, 2024 @ 8:42am
Are the Pig main players happy about the coming update?
I found from China, the reaction is overwhelmingly negative.

Nearly all people mocking the update because it erased the essence of the Pig. I did not see even one person like it.
They say the revered bear trap is the reason people playing it, not because of her undetectable crouching or ambush dash.
They say that it was very unlikely to kill survivors with the reversed trap already so there is no point to nerf it, to extend its counting timer from 2.5 to 3 minutes and removed the visibility of the Jinsaw Boxes.

On youtube however I saw limited number of reflects on this. Some youtubers favour the change.

Do you like the update for the Pig or dislike it?
Last edited by Absolute illusion; Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:50am
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Tokogawa [GER] Mar 3, 2024 @ 8:59am 
BVHR knows Pig is weak, they even use the Communities inside Jokes at this Point.

So what do they do? hard nerf her iconic Gameplay, justify it with "it was unenjoyable" for free positive Feedback and then buff her Stealth a bit.

The Result is that the Pig Part of Pig is so weak you cant get it to kill someone unless the Survivor is completly imcompetent and the Stealth Part is still not good enough to shine when compared to other Stealth Killers such as Ghostface.

Freddy is the weakest Killer but Pig is the strongest Survivor now
Adeloo Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:03am 
currently you are guaranteed a kill if you a put a reverse bear trap on survivor and it activates. I'm very glad they are removing the Pig ability to see the Jigsaw boxes :whiteward:
Eden Monroe RWR Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:22am 
Lol, another pigsaw nerf and rework???..... i guess even more reasons to not come back to the game
Rage Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:23am 
The pig rework is a nerf for bad pigs, and a buff for good pigs.
Eden Monroe RWR Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Rage:
The pig rework is a nerf for bad pigs, and a buff for good pigs.

not most of the time, all the time there are a rework is a nerf.
Nubbles Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:42am 
I gave up on maining pig a long long time ago, but this is another reason not to try her again.
Absolute illusion (Banned) Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:45am 
Originally posted by Rage:
The pig rework is a nerf for bad pigs, and a buff for good pigs.
She is among the 10 least played killer so I do not see her a lot (1.63% pick rate) (Now Billy is 5.95 times the frequency that the Pig is played). Probably that is why I do not see "bad pig" players who unfairly or excessively exploit the visibility of Jinsaw Box that often.

I played the Pig only like 15-20 matches in total and the thing I want the most to see is a survivor killed by the reversed trap, which never happened.

I do not see the point of shifting her away from the reverse trap and make her a more stealth based killer. They can buff the stealth and ambush less, but at least keep the 2.5 minute timer.
Last edited by Absolute illusion; Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:45am
Absolute illusion (Banned) Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:48am 
Originally posted by Adeloo:
currently you are guaranteed a kill if you a put a reverse bear trap on survivor and it activates. I'm very glad they are removing the Pig ability to see the Jigsaw boxes :whiteward:

How is there a guarantee? Sorry I do not play her much, so could you explain? What I saw is (1) the increase of the length of timer from 2.5 to 3 mins. and (2) the Jinsaw Box becomes invisible. So what is the guarantee?
Absolute illusion (Banned) Mar 3, 2024 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by Alarick Monroe:
Lol, another pigsaw nerf and rework???..... i guess even more reasons to not come back to the game

Haha and they also buffed the Huntress a lot in the update (2 more hatchets in hands, moving faster when holding a hatchets, hatchets travel faster. Throwing faster.) when no one asked about it.
Everyone confused and no one understand why they did this. XD. Youtubers streamers are confused too. XD
Last edited by Absolute illusion; Mar 3, 2024 @ 10:04am
Rage Mar 3, 2024 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Absolute illusion:
Originally posted by Rage:
The pig rework is a nerf for bad pigs, and a buff for good pigs.
She is among the 10 least played killer so I do not see her a lot (1.63% pick rate) (Now Billy is 5.95 times the frequency that the Pig is played). Probably that is why I do not see "bad pig" players who unfairly or excessively exploit the visibility of Jinsaw Box that often.

I played the Pig only like 15-20 matches in total and the thing I want the most to see is a survivor killed by the reversed trap, which never happened.

I do not see the point of shifting her away from the reverse trap and make her a more stealth based killer. They can buff the stealth and ambush less, but at least keep the 2.5 minute timer.
The point of the buff is not to increase her stealth. The point is to increase her chase. Her ambush was already somewhat viable to counter looping in chase, now it is extremely viable.
Originally posted by Adeloo:
currently you are guaranteed a kill if you a put a reverse bear trap on survivor and it activates. I'm very glad they are removing the Pig ability to see the Jigsaw boxes :whiteward:
No difference after the change. You can still just follow the unhooked survivor until the game ends. The buffs to crouching ms and stand up time arguably make it better for pigs not running those addons (ie gears or timer).

In order to fix pig they need a bigger rework. Just marginally buffing ambush dash and nerfing rbts isn't gonna do it. Rbts need to be fundamentally rebalanced to avoid the short term usage while preserving the theme, fun, and utility of them. Ambush needs to have some reason to actually use it.

People probably forget but amush dash used to be considered useful at loops. The game left it behind. Survivors learned to counter that before. A lot people testing the ptb were just using the addons for ambush dash which is effectively just the same pig as we have on live. Only difference is you get the (significant) crouch cancelling speed as well.
gun goes pew pew Mar 3, 2024 @ 10:19am 
She was already perfect for me, but yeah, this update made her better in the way she was meant to be played. Kinda sucks about the traps/boxes though, now those head pops will be even rarer and you wont be able to check up on your boxes to wish the survivors goodluck :(
Absolute illusion (Banned) Mar 3, 2024 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by boop the snoot:
She was already perfect for me, but yeah, this update made her better in the way she was meant to be played. Kinda sucks about the traps/boxes though, now those head pops will be even rarer and you wont be able to check up on your boxes to wish the survivors goodluck :(

Aaaa! yes it would be so nice to be able to observe players killed by the reverse trap beside the Jinsaw Box.
Last edited by Absolute illusion; Mar 3, 2024 @ 10:23am
ReZisT Lust Mar 3, 2024 @ 10:35am 
I joined the game when I hear Amanda was in it despite not watching over 3 Saw movies I still loved the idea of having the survivors play a game of chance while having Amanda do he best to rig the system as she did on the movies. Despite her being complete ass overall since shes just an m1 killer and having everyone escape I still had fun cause playing around the traps was just my way of giving suvivors the feel of gotta hurry as gens been popping too fast for me to do anything and feeling like they've got a timer till its game over And its I who teabag at them instead of vice versa. Years later they removed end game traps which made the rolling even harder but I still had fun cause traps and I use Tampered timer and Annotated Plan to reduce the clock per gen and even though I couldnt make sure 1 kill was secured bar hatch anymore she was still fun. With these latest nerfs I cant use my 2 brain cells & predict which boxs the survivor will go to once I hear they failed the last box. Now a bunch of dudes who like spinning in place while roaring like a fool calling AMBUSH a mind game power and ruining her trap playstyle instead of a damn ambush you use when you cut off where a person is supposed to head to and charge at them from said hiding spot. They also didnt touch Annotated plans to compensate which is only good if you get a trap on at least 3 gens or more. I have switched to bleeding out people and blinding them as a secondary objective for the hatters in public to compensate the extra 30 seconds of gen time they are gonna be doing. Cause theres literally no reason not to just do gens now since you can either 99 like usual or just check the 4 of 5 boxs which guarantees you wont be box camped by some noob pig.
ReZisT Lust Mar 3, 2024 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Adeloo:
currently you are guaranteed a kill if you a put a reverse bear trap on survivor and it activates. I'm very glad they are removing the Pig ability to see the Jigsaw boxes :whiteward:
If you got bad teammates who dont wanna body block just say so bro, nothing is guaranteed with Pig.
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Date Posted: Mar 3, 2024 @ 8:42am
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