Why doesn't the anti camp bar slow down hook progress instead???? (from a killer main)

[Femboy Christmas]

The anti camp is known to be a huge failure. It doesn't stop the killer in any way form just tunneling you off the hook the moment you unhook. So why not just make it slow down the hook progress more and more? This will do multiple things to deter camping even further: No amount of gen regression perks (deadlock and such) will be able to stop all 5 gens from being completed if you decide to right off first hook of the game facecamp, this part I'm not sure if it's a good idea but you could also make it so a full bar completely stops the hook (while still keeping the chance to give up so the killer can't hold hostage) but while the killer can't hold hostage it could give the survivor the chance to hold hostage further detering maliciously camping, and as hook progress slows it can give survs a lot longer to plan for getting the unhook in the most efficient way possible, leading to many more games where the killer that feels like maliciously camping gets 4 outed (obviously not in end game). I've seen other people suggesting this and I wanna see arguments from the other side of this please!

[Null Winter]

They tested hook progress slowdown; Killers who BM would use it to prolong how long someone has to stay stuck in the match.

With your version, SWF Survivors would just co-ordinate to not actually start chases or make unhook attempts and instead get the bar to stop so the Killer can't safely leave the hook to defend objectives but also can't stay because the hook has stopped progressing entirely.

When making any kind of suggestion, immediately follow up with "How would SWF mis-use and abuse this just to be as petty as possible?"

[Just Memein]

The problem is everyone considers it as a failure and refers to it as a anti camping mechanic.

But it just isn't a anti camping mechanic nor labled as one, it's a anti face camping mechanic so actually it does it's job perfectly fine and how it's suppose to work.

It's like saying totems aren't working because you cleanse them but it doesn't progress the gens because they are different mechanics.

[Femboy Christmas]

Originally posted by Nodl:

The problem is everyone considers it as a failure and refers to it as a anti camping mechanic.

But it just isn't a anti camping mechanic nor labled as one, it's a anti face camping mechanic so actually it does it's job perfectly fine and how it's suppose to work.

It's like saying totems aren't working because you cleanse them but it doesn't progress the gens because they are different mechanics.

the issue with the anti face camping part of it is that it does nothing but speed up how fast you die when the killer is face camping. They can easily just wait out bt or 2 hit you. The only time it can work is proxy camping so if it's supposed to be anti face camping it's even more of a failure

[Bloodwyrm Wildheart]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

They tested hook progress slowdown; Killers who BM would use it to prolong how long someone has to stay stuck in the match.

That logic doesn't really fly when when you can suicide on hook.

[MechaBear]

For as long as the killer knows where the hooked survivor is and can see his aura, he gonna camp if he wants to, and there is nothing you can do about it. The only good anticamp messure we have so far is on the Pyramid head with his cage which teleport survivor away and doesn't show his aura. Just implement the same mechanic to hooks, and you've got yourself a healthy game.

[orch82]

It is not anti camp it is anti face camp. The counter to camping is doing gens so why complain

[Gabriel Lover]

Originally posted by Nodl:

The problem is everyone considers it as a failure and refers to it as a anti camping mechanic.

But it just isn't a anti camping mechanic nor labled as one, it's a anti face camping mechanic so actually it does it's job perfectly fine and how it's suppose to work.

It's like saying totems aren't working because you cleanse them but it doesn't progress the gens because they are different mechanics.

I just got facecamped during a game and my unhook timer still didnt go off

[Elikir]

Originally posted by KurapikaKurta:

I just got facecamped during a game and my unhook timer still didnt go off

i can imagine two reasons
1) it was endgame/exit gates powered
2) at least one other survivors were near you

[LittleEtherKitty]

The mechanic isn't there to make camping useless, it's meant to make it easier for survs to deal with, so making it completely stop progress is going further than they even want to think about.

[Scarsick]

Originally posted by Femboy Christmas:

The anti camp is known to be a huge failure. It doesn't stop the killer in any way form just tunneling you off the hook the moment you unhook. So why not just make it slow down the hook progress more and more?

Because it's a mechanic, not a cheat.