MMR for individual killer just doesn't exist

[Spyro]

First time Wesker and my opponents all have similar names and outfits, and are like P30s. I definitely dodged that because I don't want to be miserable trying to learn a killer for the first time. If I could have swapped killer then I would have tried something I am better with to play vs the swf team

[Spyro]

https://imgur.com/cyxsh1m And my 2nd game lmao

[Voidlines]

I was actually very curious about this and tested it myself.

My main Onryo (by a LARGE margin) usually gets survivors between extremely skilled and coordinated to survivors who don't know what tapes do. And mostly the latter, despite me winning most of my matches for months now. I checked my stats and decided to try killers like Twins and Hag, who I never play and I get a constant stream of P60-P100 survivors fully kitted out and in SWF groups of 2-4 every match with some exceptions every few matches.

Personally I think MMR in general is bugged right now.

[The Mastermind]

Judging player's skill by prestige is kinda silly, I have met many p100 who played like ♥♥♥♥. Same with skins, doesnt mean they are good just because they have them. If you want to try new killer maybe try one or two rounds with bots to get used to him before going against players.

[Voidlines]

Originally posted by The Mastermind:

Judging player's skill by prestige is kinda silly, I have met many p100 who played like ♥♥♥♥. Same with skins, doesnt mean they are good just because they have them. If you want to try new killer maybe try one or two rounds with bots to get used to him before going against players.

While this can be true, more often than not it still shows they have a good grasp of the game and are clearly higher MMR and more skillful than you with enough knowledge to counterplay the killer perfectly during the match. I even got in the habit of saying "ggs, was this a swf group?" and I'd say about 70-sh% of the time it's at least a 2 stack.

Edit: I should clarify this is in response from those playing on PC/Epic. Kinda hard to gauge console players with it.

[Bing Bong]

Ohhhh yea it does. And its not even a question for me.

My legion who I farmed with stage 2 and let everyone escape for events has only beginners to the game on it. I dont think that things MMR is even a positive integer at this point. Off chance I might see a p4 if I am lucky. And yea, they are VERY much new to the game by their playstyle, (they think hiding in lockers during feral frenzy works)

Plague/Artist/Oni I regularly see p100's. And they have a grasp on what to do.

[Null Winter]

The dev team confirmed that there is a shared "baseline" MMR between Killers so that a super experienced Killer player with 1000 hours on their main can't simply swap to a new Killer to bully people who just installed the game.

Unconfirmed but suspected by a lot of long-term players and people who spend too much time with stats: The "highest tier" cap for MMR is so hilariously low that anyone can reach it within a couple months of casual play, so almost everyone (from scrubs to gods) is lumped into the highest tier.

If both are true, then it's possible that someone has done so well as one Killer that their forced minimum MMR is already close to the cap anyways so they will see the full range of players regardless of who they enter a match as.

[Ackranome]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

The dev team confirmed that there is a shared "baseline" MMR between Killers so that a super experienced Killer player with 1000 hours on their main can't simply swap to a new Killer to bully people who just installed the game.

Unconfirmed but suspected by a lot of long-term players and people who spend too much time with stats: The "highest tier" cap for MMR is so hilariously low that anyone can reach it within a couple months of casual play, so almost everyone (from scrubs to gods) is lumped into the highest tier.

If both are true, then it's possible that someone has done so well as one Killer that their forced minimum MMR is already close to the cap anyways so they will see the full range of players.

Problems with this concept; obviously. Should halve the MMR.

[Bill Waggoner]

Originally posted by Chaos:

I was actually very curious about this and tested it myself.

My main Onryo (by a LARGE margin) usually gets survivors between extremely skilled and coordinated to survivors who don't know what tapes do. And mostly the latter, despite me winning most of my matches for months now. I checked my stats and decided to try killers like Twins and Hag, who I never play and I get a constant stream of P60-P100 survivors fully kitted out and in SWF groups of 2-4 every match with some exceptions every few matches.

Personally I think MMR in general is bugged right now.

I agree with you. Before this update, the range of people I was getting paired with, regardless of playing killer/survivor was within a few levels. Now I am seeing P100s every second match.

I understand that prestige =/= MMR, but still. Wasn't like this before the update, not even close.

[glythe]

Originally posted by Spyro:

First time Wesker and my opponents all have similar names and outfits, and are like P30s. I definitely dodged that because I don't want to be miserable trying to learn a killer for the first time. If I could have swapped killer then I would have tried something I am better with to play vs the swf team

Once you have won "enough" you get locked into something like 1200 MMR after you have had killer at 1600 MMR.

You can't ever go back down from that point because they put in place a system to prevent MMR loss (aka MMR throwing).

[Voidlines]

Originally posted by Bill Waggoner™:

Originally posted by Chaos:

I was actually very curious about this and tested it myself.

My main Onryo (by a LARGE margin) usually gets survivors between extremely skilled and coordinated to survivors who don't know what tapes do. And mostly the latter, despite me winning most of my matches for months now. I checked my stats and decided to try killers like Twins and Hag, who I never play and I get a constant stream of P60-P100 survivors fully kitted out and in SWF groups of 2-4 every match with some exceptions every few matches.

Personally I think MMR in general is bugged right now.

I agree with you. Before this update, the range of people I was getting paired with, regardless of playing killer/survivor was within a few levels. Now I am seeing P100s every second match.

I understand that prestige =/= MMR, but still. Wasn't like this before the update, not even close.

It's just so bizarre that on the killers I main, I get survivors that should definitely be on the killers I rarely play, and it's slowly starting to feel like it's swapped around. I legit sometimes feel bad because I'm getting 4ks at 5 gens because the survivors clearly aren't the same MMR as me.

I swear, I even found survivors on my Sadako who bought the game a week prior. A killer I've played since release and when I joined. Swap to Freddy and it's 3k hour survivors.

[Tokogawa [GER]]

Killers do have different MMR but the differences arent that high

So just because you play a new Killer wont mean you get Noobs (unless your generic MMR is bad of course) but instead Survivors slightly worse then those you get in general

[Tokogawa [GER]]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Originally posted by Bill Waggoner™:

I agree with you. Before this update, the range of people I was getting paired with, regardless of playing killer/survivor was within a few levels. Now I am seeing P100s every second match.

I understand that prestige =/= MMR, but still. Wasn't like this before the update, not even close.

It's just so bizarre that on the killers I main, I get survivors that should definitely be on the killers I rarely play, and it's slowly starting to feel like it's swapped around. I legit sometimes feel bad because I'm getting 4ks at 5 gens because the survivors clearly aren't the same MMR as me.

I swear, I even found survivors on my Sadako who bought the game a week prior. A killer I've played since release and when I joined. Swap to Freddy and it's 3k hour survivors.

yeah MMR works in mysterious ways but usually it does what it should.
Ive also had someone I clearly remember. A very chatty, honestly bad Jake I faced with my Clown (my best Killer). Turned out the dude had 50 Hours and this was his first match vs Clown ever