impossible to play against new hillbilly

[Bio Virus]

how u loop this ?

[Iefy]

I haven't had an issue looping the new hillbilly. It's very much not impossible.

[Onichan]

same as you loop a hugteching Wesker or Blight, when he is about to close onto you in a tight loop, just suddenly turn outta loop and booyah, he misses

[Azelinuu]

Originally posted by erandomone:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ owl:

good ol dbd there will always be crybabies

It's not just folk whining about things, it the "Something is new and I'm not going to change how *I* play because of it, so it's impossible to play against" mentality

at least OP was asking how to deal with it

they got 1 helpful response

[erandomone]

Originally posted by Azelinuu:

Originally posted by erandomone:

It's not just folk whining about things, it the "Something is new and I'm not going to change how *I* play because of it, so it's impossible to play against" mentality

at least OP was asking how to deal with it

they got 1 helpful response

from the topic "impossible to play against new hillbilly", I think it makes their question seem pretty rhetorical

[Bing Bong]

Originally posted by Danzan:

Don't listen to killer mains here, they only say skill issue here or stop crying survivor main, u can't loop him only predrop, even windows won't help against his speedhacking overtrash mode

Yea its just a next match with him honestly. Theres no reason outside of a coordinated swf to play with anyone using him.

You are going to lose. Unless the billy is brand new to the game.

People defend him like the people defending last patch sadako. No one reasonable thinks he is balanced currently.

Overtuned and unenjoyable. No idea how some people who play killers can login and think this is okay.

[Onichan]

Originally posted by Jak:

Yea its just a next match with him honestly. Theres no reason outside of a coordinated swf to play with anyone using him.

You are going to lose. Unless the billy is brand new to the game.

People defend him like the people defending last patch sadako. No one reasonable thinks he is balanced currently.

Overtuned and unenjoyable. No idea how some people who play killers can login and think this is okay.

and you are acting as if his skill floor was lowered so much with the rework that suddenly all the average Billy players people were getting in their matches are suddenly curving gods, manage to use their chainsaw perfectly and that he is an easy 4k machine now.
So just be honest at this point, you never enjoyed Billy, you enjoyed the fact that he was a terrible killer usually played by terrible players.
He's a bit easier to hang of now, but still requires insane amount of skill to be played properly and definitely isn't the "easy 4k machine" you are trying to make him be.

[Server Jester]

so far the only person to help OP is Onichan
DBD community aint sendin their best

[Bing Bong]

Originally posted by Onichan:

Originally posted by Jak:

Yea its just a next match with him honestly. Theres no reason outside of a coordinated swf to play with anyone using him.

You are going to lose. Unless the billy is brand new to the game.

People defend him like the people defending last patch sadako. No one reasonable thinks he is balanced currently.

Overtuned and unenjoyable. No idea how some people who play killers can login and think this is okay.

and you are acting as if his skill floor was lowered so much with the rework that suddenly all the average Billy players people were getting in their matches are suddenly curving gods, manage to use their chainsaw perfectly and that he is an easy 4k machine now.
So just be honest at this point, you never enjoyed Billy, you enjoyed the fact that he was a terrible killer usually played by terrible players.
He's a bit easier to hang of now, but still requires insane amount of skill to be played properly and definitely isn't the "easy 4k machine" you are trying to make him be.

In terms of being 'honest' I am not the one legitimately lying about how oni compares to him. You are absolutely delusional to think oni is anywhere near as good as current billy,.

You literally made another post saying oni is more agile than him, like you have no idea what you are even talking about.

Which he is not by the way, slower, less accessible to power, less turning radius, less map pressure.

He is currently an easy 4k machine for the majority of matches. Hes better than blight without a doubt now.

The only thing blight has going for him, which ironically is broken as well, is infinite bouncing using blight tag.

For everyones reference heres what Onichan actually belives and its insane

Originally posted by Onichan:

???????? You have one of the best tracking powers in game as Oni, you don't suffer from eternity lasting cooldown after colliding with an object

What
Are
You
Talking
About
?

There are 4 killers that really have tracking. Legion, Doctor, SM, Spirit. I wouldnt even say Oni has tracking as you can follow blood to a heal spot an not survivors, or if the map becomes filled with blood and you cant distinguish any trail at all. He also cannot use this in power. His tracking, if you were to classfy it as tracking, is the worst of ALL options listed here.

We could throw in addons but we aren't talking about that. In which case you would put something like Black insense plague here. Oni's tracking even with addons, like the meme family crest, or his other terrible iri addon, would be at the bottom of any tracking killer list.

If we were to throw in addons for tracking on Oni you can forget ever moving as fast as billy even without billy taking speed addons. And youll have to sit there and miss a bunch of attacks to even get family crest to work, and hope survivors are even in range.

So for tracking Oni is one of, if not, the worst killer for tracking. Id trust a perk more than oni's blood trails.

Originally posted by Onichan:

you don't suffer from eternity lasting cooldown after colliding with an object

I dont think you have played/watched currently updated billy then.
Your cooldown between a missed slam collision and another is way longer than billy colliding with an object and reving up another chain attack currently.

Also faking with an Oni charge is horrificly slow and almost impossible with oni slam. Once you are committed you are committed and have to hope the survivor screws up FOR YOU

Originally posted by Onichan:

you are way more agile than Billy during traversal by not pressing W during dashing and using A and D with mouse exclusively.

No.
Your turn radius is lower, your speed is lower on Oni. And your reapplication and frequency of your power is lower.

Originally posted by Onichan:

One-hit down that is way more reliable than Billy's, extended one-hit down lunge while not dashing, literal possibility to one-hit down while not even dashing.

No.
This is if you have the survivor zoned. Which would be the same situation with billy. Only now you can do it faster with billy.

Originally posted by Onichan:

On top of everything, Oni has far better map traversal capability than Billy, especially when you know how to "surf" with him well.

This is just straight up lying no. Even without the update this is false.

He is slower, cannot turn as quickly, and is restricted to even HAVING his power.

Originally posted by Onichan:

Also, Oni is the best snowballing machine in the game and one of the killers that are the best at applying map pressure.

Just straight up lying again. What are you even saying here. Best snowballer? Map pressure?
Okay down one survivor with oni hook. Ohhhhh darn my power meter is now empty gee my map pressure is amazing.

Down one survivor with billy hook. Here I go cross the map.

Originally posted by Onichan:

So yes, Billy is just a budget version of Oni that excells in 1v1s, but is far worse in other aspects.

So no its not.

Look up how fast overdrive is and tell me Oni can ever move at that speed even with addons. Oni doesnt even hit billys base charge speed as it is.

Edit: Clarify for tracking

[Onichan]

Originally posted by Jak:

In terms of being 'honest' I am not the one legitimately lying about how oni compares to him. You are absolutely delusional to think oni is anywhere near as good as current billy,.

You literally made another post saying oni is more agile than him, like you have no idea what you are even talking about.

Which he is not by the way, slower, less accessible to power, less turning radius, less map pressure.

He is currently an easy 4k machine for the majority of matches. Hes better than blight without a doubt now.

The only thing blight has going for him, which ironically is broken as well, is infinite bouncing using blight tag.

after comparing him to Blight, i am truly aware that you are most likely engagement and award farming with this.
Man, you are def not the person you used to be before here.

[Johann Hölletaucher]

He may not be a win button for crap players, but he's sure as hell a win button for competent ones.

[Eviltoy]

So boring the game since yesterday i played. yesterday from 8 games 6 time hilly billy. today 2 /2 Hilly Billyis Zero fun he super fast and Oneshooot. But the most bad thing is it to much only vs him. That ectremly bad.

[Jadedsoul420]

if he is bearing down on you at a distance, sure you have time to dodge, but most are getting as close as they can before chainsawing, leaving you less than a second to dodge and usually getting downed anyways. new hillbilly is best to not be found, do your best to keep him at a distance and dont give him time to chainsaw.

[glythe]

You need to know the timings for Billy in order to be able to play against him. This is a problem for most people because they don't ever play killer.

[Hugi]

Originally posted by glythe:

You need to know the timings for Billy in order to be able to play against him. This is a problem for most people because they don't ever play killer.

New player here. Is killer so unpopular to play?

[Bill]

It can be very difficult to fight against a good billy, but not impossible. I really like him, as he has alot of counterplay and his ability is relatively simple.