Power Struggle, Flip Flop, Plot Twist

[[EPTF] Dexorf]

A very interesting interaction is possible where survivors purposefully enter dying state under a pallet, heal themselves, and then are able to stun you the moment you go to pick them up.

While this is funny to see, I am seeing more and more survivors running around with this combination, doing basically nothing, and just trying to get a crumb of killer's attention so they can troll them.

Even if the combo isn't crazy OP due to the survivor giving up 3 perks just to be able to do this, I really don't think it's a healthy thing for the game.

[Roan]

I mean call me crazy but that just looks like a free match to me. They're not doing gens and I can just look at them, know what they're up to, and go find someone else? Sign me up.

[[EPTF] Dexorf]

Originally posted by Valimure:

I mean call me crazy but that just looks like a free match to me. They're not doing gens and I can just look at them, know what they're up to, and go find someone else? Sign me up.

Yeah, but I really don't think builds that "encourage" you to just run around and do nothing are healthy. Same with Elite 69 420 xXx chasemasters that are in killer's face the entire game and end it with 11k BP. It's just super frustrating to have someone like that on your team.

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by Dexorf:

Originally posted by Valimure:

I mean call me crazy but that just looks like a free match to me. They're not doing gens and I can just look at them, know what they're up to, and go find someone else? Sign me up.

Yeah, but I really don't think builds that "encourage" you to just run around and do nothing are healthy. Same with Elite 69 420 xXx chasemasters that are in killer's face the entire game and end it with 11k BP. It's just super frustrating to have someone like that on your team.

Once holding a gen all match gets boring, Survivors go on the hunt for trolling opportunities; their own entertainment at the cost of everyone else's!

[DoT]

Let people have fun

[Rabbit]

I did it a few times, it's definitely just for the fun of it, and fun is good

[SarahJade69_ IG]

Originally posted by Dexorf:

A very interesting interaction is possible where survivors purposefully enter dying state under a pallet, heal themselves, and then are able to stun you the moment you go to pick them up.

While this is funny to see, I am seeing more and more survivors running around with this combination, doing basically nothing, and just trying to get a crumb of killer's attention so they can troll them.

Even if the combo isn't crazy OP due to the survivor giving up 3 perks just to be able to do this, I really don't think it's a healthy thing for the game.

I like using overcome with lucky break and plot twist. So if the killer does find me I get hit and lose line of sight and plot twist is a W for me.

[COMP DBD 1V1]

its not that good
most killers will instantly pick you up negating the entire build with 0 effort, you actually need the killer to be distracted for a couple seconds straight to even have a chance for a power struggle play

[JustinGayme.TTV]

I get what you’re saying but I don’t pick up Survivors under pallets anymore unless I down them there and I pick up immediately.

Also I think that’s the point of plot twist; to fake you out. If you didn’t down them yourself but you pick them up, that’s the perk working as intended I believe (as a heal or a fake out).

If you have two characters visually identical trying to fake you out, I don’t pick up unless I know for sure which one it is. Some people are identical as a tactic, others not. Sometimes visually identical ones will do this with other perks, like boil over, decisive strike etc. it didn’t bother me that they do it because it’s a valid tactic, but so is leaving them there.

Like many perks and strategies they can be annoying but there is usually a counter. Good luck! And sorry that you’ve dealt with this a lot.

[JustinGayme.TTV]

Originally posted by Y R Killers Sweaty:

Originally posted by Dexorf:

A very interesting interaction is possible where survivors purposefully enter dying state under a pallet, heal themselves, and then are able to stun you the moment you go to pick them up.

While this is funny to see, I am seeing more and more survivors running around with this combination, doing basically nothing, and just trying to get a crumb of killer's attention so they can troll them.

Even if the combo isn't crazy OP due to the survivor giving up 3 perks just to be able to do this, I really don't think it's a healthy thing for the game.

I like using overcome with lucky break and plot twist. So if the killer does find me I get hit and lose line of sight and plot twist is a W for me.

I loved overcome + lucky break.

Sadly I find it so hard to keep it refilled through healing others though. May I ask if the clock stops “ticking” on the perk when you plot twist?

[COMP DBD 1V1]

Originally posted by JustinGayme.TTV:

I get what you’re saying but I don’t pick up Survivors under pallets anymore unless I down them there and I pick up immediately.

Also I think that’s the point of plot twist; to fake you out. If you didn’t down them yourself but you pick them up, that’s the perk working as intended I believe (as a heal or a fake out).

If you have two characters visually identical trying to fake you out, I don’t pick up unless I know for sure which one it is. Some people are identical as a tactic, others not. Sometimes visually identical ones will do this with other perks, like boil over, decisive strike etc. it didn’t bother me that they do it because it’s a valid tactic, but so is leaving them there.

Like many perks and strategies they can be annoying but there is usually a counter. Good luck! And sorry that you’ve dealt with this a lot.

you still need to make enormous amounts of distance to get the plot twist play
30% of the incap bar is a really substantial non trivial amount

like 99% of scenarios would be hit surv -> he runs away to pallet -> plot twist -> you catch to him and pick him up since hes no more than 20% done at best

like i said other people have to be around to stop you from picking him up quickly so in a 1v1 scenario this build is mostly useless without some god rng of a window making killers take more than 5 seconds to go around

[SarahJade69_ IG]

Originally posted by JustinGayme.TTV:

Originally posted by Y R Killers Sweaty:

I like using overcome with lucky break and plot twist. So if the killer does find me I get hit and lose line of sight and plot twist is a W for me.

I loved overcome + lucky break.

Sadly I find it so hard to keep it refilled through healing others though. May I ask if the clock stops “ticking” on the perk when you plot twist?

Yes it stops when you plot twist that is why I use it its great