Fifth Perk Slot?

[Voidster]

Just curious what everyone thinks of a 5th perk slot for both sides. Could be game breaking but could also enable more unique play styles especially for Killer, and overall make the game more fun for both sides.

[Resident Hobo]

4 is definitely a good number. 3 would be preferable to 5, IMO, but 4 is probably better than 3.

[goblin]

many killers i play against already have a 5th perk. they all bring the 1 bar ping perk. especially blights they seem to like that 5th perk

[Screwsie.]

On one hand it would probably lead to some game breaking Slowdown/Regression Killer builds and some absolutely vile Anti-hook Survivor builds.

On the other hand it would let me run my guilty pleasure perks without sacrificing build efficacy.

[Voidlines]

I'd rather not face 20 survivor perks in one match, thank you.

[Elikir]

Made me remember of an idea i had to have both a slight meta shakeup and finally give an identity to survivors :

Either make the 4th perk slot limited to own character perks or make it a 5th perk slot with same limitation

Own character perks : dwight would have leader or bond or prove thyself as 4th or 5th perk
meanwhile a trapper would have brutal strength or unnerving presence or agitation as 4th or 5th perk

It would surely make specific character more OP, but nurse? not great perks (one is already copied by her add-on), blight though have perks that would make him a bit more powerful, but not by much that he's already are (at least less than having a 5th slot occupied by a gen regression)

PS : hex : blood favor is also a perk whose effects are copied by one of his add-ons, though it does works differently (check summoning stone)

[Resident Hobo]

Originally posted by Elikir:

Made me remember of an idea i had to have both a slight meta shakeup and finally give an identity to survivors :

Either make the 4th perk slot limited to own character perks or make it a 5th perk slot with same limitation

Own character perks : dwight would have leader or bond or prove thyself as 4th or 5th perk
meanwhile a trapper would have brutal strength or unnerving presence or agitation as 4th or 5th perk

It would surely make specific character more OP, but nurse? not great perks (one is already copied by her add-on), blight though have perks that would make him a bit more powerful, but not by much that he's already are (at least less than having a 5th slot occupied by a gen regression)

I definitely wish survivors had exclusive perks. It's kinda lame that the characters are all just skins.

[PVT.Blueberry]

killers already have sloppy butcher in add on form so they tech have 5th perk which is bs

[Elikir]

Originally posted by PVT.Blueberry:

killers already have sloppy butcher in add on form so they tech have 5th perk which is bs

Sloppy butcher : inflict hemorrhage and mangled+ hemorrhage is more effective
Not every killers can inflict both status effects, plus even those who have such add-ons are generally very rare/purple add-ons which you can't spam infinitively except if you're like p30+ or something, AND it generally have more difficult requirement than "just base attack"

Meanwhile survivor got borrowed time (tunnel more difficult) and delivrance (anti face camp) as base kit FOR FREE, like not even trough add(ons or items, ITS BASEKIT

So please stop crying over killers for having "conditionnal and limited fifth perk"

[Mors_Indecepta]

The only way it would work is if they started placing limits on how many of a certain type of perk you're allowed to use...otherwise, you'd have survivors just stacking 2nd-chance perks, and killers stacking gen regression. Not good for the game.

[PVT.Blueberry]

Originally posted by Elikir:

Originally posted by PVT.Blueberry:

killers already have sloppy butcher in add on form so they tech have 5th perk which is bs

Sloppy butcher : inflict hemorrhage and mangled+ hemorrhage is more effective
Not every killers can inflict both status effects, plus even those who have such add-ons are generally very rare/purple add-ons which you can't spam infinitively except if you're like p30+ or something, AND it generally have more difficult requirement than "just base attack"

Meanwhile survivor got borrowed time (tunnel more difficult) and delivrance (anti face camp) as base kit FOR FREE, like not even trough add(ons or items, ITS BASEKIT

So please stop crying over killers for having "conditionnal and limited fifth perk"

meow kitty

[Garou]

i think they could rework the system even allow more then 4 perks if they are in seperate groups like utility,endurance,information etc

[Elikir]

Originally posted by Ocktay:

Dude it's 10 seconds, without kidding do you find it fun for a survivor to be unhook and instantly find themselves on the ground without absolutely nothing being able to do?

like it or not, base kit BT was necessary for fun purpose.

And the anti face-camp is something that prevents bad players from using boring crutch tactics, they implemented it so that players improve instead of doing nothing.

You see the balance side of the game, they "devs" and we see the fun side of it.

Thanks for disagreeing the other guy, as for your reply to me :

I have nothing against borrowed time basekit IN ITSELF, it was necessary, but when you add this, plus the anti face camp feature, which was easily counter by just doing gens, so the hooked guy when being camped is still distracting the killer like if he was chased its just guaranteed 60 to 120 sec of having the killer not preassuring gens

Let's be real, face camping is a sign of hopelessness because its their last attempt to get at least a single kill since trying to preassuring gens ISN'T AN OPTION for them because of differents reasons (skill difference, meta perks, sweaty tactics/exploits etc)

Which then give the next problem : you're giving more free gifts to survivors or punishing killers (depend of point of view) you can't keep doing that without heavy repercussion to game balance, and making the game easier for survivors WILL NOT improve them

And if in the future, BHVR decide to nerf tunneling even more, what's left to killer to prevent survivors winning when THEY tunnel and/or camp gens or deny any down trough bodyblocking?

[Valore]

I've already suggested this before, Killers should get a 5th perk slot, but it only unlocks if there's a SWF in their lobby.

Being a SWF basically gives you free perks in of itself, which you normally have to take info perks to get. Implement that, tweak it to see if there's anything particularly OP about it, and see how it goes.

[Liandre]

Originally posted by Valore:

I've already suggested this before, Killers should get a 5th perk slot, but it only unlocks if there's a SWF in their lobby.

Being a SWF basically gives you free perks in of itself, which you normally have to take info perks to get. Implement that, tweak it to see if there's anything particularly OP about it, and see how it goes.

SWF can be a duo aswell. I dont think its justified the killer having 5 perks just because i and my friend with litterals 3,5 hours que up together. There has to be some sort of draw back for 3/4 stacks though on that i agree.

[Pierce Dalton]

Well, you could say survs already have a 5th slot if they're playing with comms.