4 stack swf

[FillMyHolesUwU]

At high MMR is all I get and im frustrated with it. I genuinely hate having to sweat every game to even have a chance at winning when they all bring gen rush builds to try and finish the game in less than 5 minutes. If the devs are gonna gut 3 gens, and gen regression again.. why should this be a thing for survivors? Gen regression and patrolling were all we had to compete with these COMMS SWF squads, but since then half of our perks got gutted to where they dont do anything because SURVIVORS can just undo it with 1 tap of the generator. Going against stacked squads with 16 synergy perks makes it damn near impossible to win. Something needs to be done. Bring solo up to par with swf, and buff killer so all killers can be viable not just 2 or even 3 if you count spirit. Do the devs not realize this is the kinda stuff that creates burnouts. Balance the outlier in this game jeeze. Also Maybe stop letting endurance perks stack? its getting annoying that people are using these perks (which are anti tunnel perks mind you) to take 3-4 extra hits when they should have gone down after the second.... and lastly gut FOR THE PEOPLE AND BUCKLE UP ♥♥♥♥♥ broken

[Truth seeker]

For some player the xmast vacation just start so playing killer right now for the next 2 week wont be that great of an experience because of swf. It depend on the time you play too

[Elviz]

Enhancing the killer to stand a chance against the "sweaty" SWF would totally unbalance the game for 3/4 of players and all those who queue solo or casual play with their friends.

It's hard enough to be a solo survivor, if it were worse, no one would queue solo anymore and you'd end up facing only the sweaty swf anyway.

[Truth seeker]

Originally posted by PooPoo:

Enhancing the killer to stand a chance against the "sweaty" SWF would totally unbalance the game for 3/4 of players and all those who queue solo or casual play with their friends.

It's hard enough to be a solo survivor, if it were worse, no one would queue solo anymore and you'd end up facing only the sweaty swf anyway.

Its hard for solo but its not because the killer are that amazing but mostly because we dont have enough communication between ourself. Like playing against a pinhead will have w scenario happen 1 everyone go to the box or no one go to the box.

So in the end its the other survivor that make the game impossible to win not the tunneling killer.

[OMG My Profile Name Does Not Fi]

What I don't understand is why they don't use the system, that other games do, where survivor players have different MMRs when you queue for solo and SWF.

[Truth seeker]

Originally posted by OMG My Profile Name Does Not Fi:

What I don't understand is why they don't use the system, that other games do, where survivor players have different MMRs when you queue for solo and SWF.

This will need 2 different queue and honestly no killer exept of main nurse or blight will want to play vs swf player creating long queue for survivor.

[Elviz]

Originally posted by Truth seeker:

Originally posted by PooPoo:

Enhancing the killer to stand a chance against the "sweaty" SWF would totally unbalance the game for 3/4 of players and all those who queue solo or casual play with their friends.

It's hard enough to be a solo survivor, if it were worse, no one would queue solo anymore and you'd end up facing only the sweaty swf anyway.

Its hard for solo but its not because the killer are that amazing but mostly because we dont have enough communication between ourself. Like playing against a pinhead will have w scenario happen 1 everyone go to the box or no one go to the box.

So in the end its the other survivor that make the game impossible to win not the tunneling killer.

We have more information than ever, but Behavior is very poor when it comes to teaching new players how their game works. See the little gene icon next to the player's name? That means he's working on it. So go save the survivors on the hooks if you're not doing anything.

See those moving bones at the bottom of the survivor's name? That means he's being chased. Stop being scared and stay on your generator.

If there are three survivors left and no one is working on a generator. You're wasting precious time. You're losing the game. That's what it means. Time is precious in a match and if you want to win, you've got to get your ass on those generators.

Not good at Looping? Then equip yourself with a perk to repair faster or help your team, or a ninja perk to hide better. Perk like Deja vue/distortion and alert are really useful for beginner.

But as I said, behavior is terrible when it comes to teaching games to new players. In fact, we should be able to queue solo with a specific role and then team up with people who queue with other roles with specific perks.

[OMG My Profile Name Does Not Fi]

Originally posted by Truth seeker:

Originally posted by OMG My Profile Name Does Not Fi:

What I don't understand is why they don't use the system, that other games do, where survivor players have different MMRs when you queue for solo and SWF.

This will need 2 different queue and honestly no killer exept of main nurse or blight will want to play vs swf player creating long queue for survivor.

But they don't need to make two queues - they can do the same as now, just use a Survivor's 'SWF' MMR instead of their solo MMR when they play in a group.

[Truth seeker]

Originally posted by OMG My Profile Name Does Not Fi:

Originally posted by Truth seeker:

This will need 2 different queue and honestly no killer exept of main nurse or blight will want to play vs swf player creating long queue for survivor.

But they don't need to make two queues - they can do the same as now, just use a Survivor's 'SWF' MMR instead of their solo MMR when they play in a group.

Its not that easy to do if it was game like league of legend would have only 1 queue instead of one for solo duo and 1 for 3 or more teamate. So because of that i cant bieve bhvr can do that.

[Truth seeker]

Originally posted by PooPoo:

Originally posted by Truth seeker:

Its hard for solo but its not because the killer are that amazing but mostly because we dont have enough communication between ourself. Like playing against a pinhead will have w scenario happen 1 everyone go to the box or no one go to the box.

So in the end its the other survivor that make the game impossible to win not the tunneling killer.

We have more information than ever, but Behavior is very poor when it comes to teaching new players how their game works. See the little gene icon next to the player's name? That means he's working on it. So go save the survivors on the hooks if you're not doing anything.

See those moving bones at the bottom of the survivor's name? That means he's being chased. Stop being scared and stay on your generator.

If there are three survivors left and no one is working on a generator. You're wasting precious time. You're losing the game. That's what it means. Time is precious in a match and if you want to win, you've got to get your ass on those generators.

Not good at Looping? Then equip yourself with a perk to repair faster or help your team, or a ninja perk to hide better. Perk like Deja vue/distortion and alert are really useful for beginner.

But as I said, behavior is terrible when it comes to teaching games to new players. In fact, we should be able to queue solo with a specific role and then team up with people who queue with other roles with specific perks.

I know how the UI work lol i play survivor too. Its still does not change the fact that 2 or more survivor can go to the box or someone can die on the hook because no one want to leave their gen because they think they are to far away you know basic info any swf get and this can be resolve eith a ping system.

[OMG My Profile Name Does Not Fi]

Originally posted by Truth seeker:

Originally posted by OMG My Profile Name Does Not Fi:

But they don't need to make two queues - they can do the same as now, just use a Survivor's 'SWF' MMR instead of their solo MMR when they play in a group.

Its not that easy to do if it was game like league of legend would have only 1 queue instead of one for solo duo and 1 for 3 or more teamate. So because of that i cant bieve bhvr can do that.

You are absolutely right that it is not that easy to do for the reasons you mentioned.
But, it could be a fair bit better, and can hardly be worse than now. (Tempting fate I know.)

[MuszD]

Originally posted by Truth seeker:

Originally posted by PooPoo:

Enhancing the killer to stand a chance against the "sweaty" SWF would totally unbalance the game for 3/4 of players and all those who queue solo or casual play with their friends.

It's hard enough to be a solo survivor, if it were worse, no one would queue solo anymore and you'd end up facing only the sweaty swf anyway.

Its hard for solo but its not because the killer are that amazing but mostly because we dont have enough communication between ourself. Like playing against a pinhead will have w scenario happen 1 everyone go to the box or no one go to the box.

So in the end its the other survivor that make the game impossible to win not the tunneling killer.

BHVR answer : not lack of communication just selfish survivor

[Mecha Musume]

Originally posted by PooPoo:

Enhancing the killer to stand a chance against the "sweaty" SWF would totally unbalance the game for 3/4 of players and all those who queue solo or casual play with their friends.

It's hard enough to be a solo survivor, if it were worse, no one would queue solo anymore and you'd end up facing only the sweaty swf anyway.

Buffing killer is the wrong way to try fix swf's since yeah, soloQ survivors have it hard enough as it is.
Fixing it the easy way would be to let people in a lobby see if people are in a swf group so solos and killers who don't want to deal with that can just leave and queue again.
A more mechanical way would be something like disabling a perk slot if for the people in a 3 or 4 man swf, while a solo player would keep all 4 perks, to counter balance how strong instant communication and information sharing is.

[Demon Kitty]

add on speed hacks with the swf, tell me how an injured survivor without adrenaline can outrun a frenzied legion acrossed a map with only lithe for speed. /end rant

Swfs are the scourge of the game, you can't counter them at all when they know where you are at all times and all you do, its not fair at all for any killer at any level, even high level killers can't handle it and agreed it makes it totally unbalanced.

I think there should be an auto rank if you 4 or 3 man in and killers could have an option to take on this rank or not. Let the swfs have a long wait time like killers , anything tbh would be better.

one killer against 4 people on voice that tracks their every move, you are lucky to get anywhere.

[MarylandManson]

Originally posted by ONI SMASH!:

At high MMR is all I get and im frustrated with it. I genuinely hate having to sweat every game to even have a chance at winning when they all bring gen rush builds to try and finish the game in less than 5 minutes. If the devs are gonna gut 3 gens, and gen regression again.. why should this be a thing for survivors? Gen regression and patrolling were all we had to compete with these COMMS SWF squads, but since then half of our perks got gutted to where they dont do anything because SURVIVORS can just undo it with 1 tap of the generator. Going against stacked squads with 16 synergy perks makes it damn near impossible to win. Something needs to be done. Bring solo up to par with swf, and buff killer so all killers can be viable not just 2 or even 3 if you count spirit. Do the devs not realize this is the kinda stuff that creates burnouts. Balance the outlier in this game jeeze. Also Maybe stop letting endurance perks stack? its getting annoying that people are using these perks (which are anti tunnel perks mind you) to take 3-4 extra hits when they should have gone down after the second.... and lastly gut FOR THE PEOPLE AND BUCKLE UP ♥♥♥♥♥ broken

Return the favor.
Grab Nurse with Deadlock, Dead Man's Switch, Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance, and Call of Brine (or another equally annoying perk to contend with; Oppression, Hysteria, or Distressing are rather fun. Do not discount Distressing as useless, it makes them leave gens prematurely thinking you are closer than you are which almost always puts them in your line of sight).
Equip a plain flannel brown addon and the green addon that makes them scream when you blink past them. Good times.