Is there a reason so many killers been tunneling at 5 gens lately? Is it the event or what?

[AngeryBlueBerry]

I honestly don't understand whats going on, but 14 out of 16 matches I played tonight as survivor, literally every killer I faced has straight tunneled the first hook every single time with 5 gens. And they all just sit outside the hook range too. Like what is going on???? I notice it's especially bad during this event, its honestly quite annoying

Edit: I'm starting to think the matchmaking has been god awful lately but this is realllly bad

[Kaereste]

Finding the same problem. Ever since the anti-face camp mechanism , the tunneling has seemed to grown exponentially. I have tried to take a hits for other players only for killer to ignore me. i was running directly in front of one killer to the point he actually started pushing me and he refused to hit me ( would slow him down obviously) he was so intent on tunneling. Another game we had all 3 of us trying to protect and take hits for 1 player, he still tunneled. And in more games than I want to count, the killer tunnels right off the hook within seconds. It's so bad right now. Definitely about 90% of my matches.

[Oblivion]

As a killer, I'd say survivors are being a lot more care-free about unhooks. Half of the time I dont get the CHANCE to leave before they are unhooked, and obviously I'm gonna try to get someone back on the hook ASAP, which means the injured person who only requires 1 hit.\

Also if you don't know how to loop/juke... Yeah, you're gonna get taken out of the game so that there is one less person doing gens. Also because we wont get kills if we focus on those who can loop for 5 gens.

[Steak]

It's the most low effort/high reward strat for killer. Players of any game will always find and default to the strat with the best effort to reward ratio, even if it's not the most effective thing they can do. in the case of killer that strat is brain off hard tunnel off hook and hope the rest of the survivors are inefficient on gens or that the survivor you're tunneling is so weak in chase that you can easily get them out of the game before you lose.

[Hitman]

Its really easy:

Both sites want to play efficient:
Suvs run around pallets as lobg as they can before they drop them
Suvs do gens with the idea not to three gen themself for endgame

Killers want to kill (cuz its there object)
Endgame is easier to defend if u play against 3 instead of 4 suvs

Conclusion: killer plays also efficient, like suvs do, if he focuses one suv after the next one


If u have a problem with this playstyle: tage ds with u

And as a killer u chose ur strategy from the beginning (like suvs) so it doesnt matter how many gens are working. If u focus and follow ur strategy, it will give u kills

But the main Problem is: suvs play efficient but start crying if the killers do it the same way

[Hitman]

Originally posted by Tatiana:

Finding the same problem. Ever since the anti-face camp mechanism , the tunneling has seemed to grown exponentially. I have tried to take a hits for other players only for killer to ignore me. i was running directly in front of one killer to the point he actually started pushing me and he refused to hit me ( would slow him down obviously) he was so intent on tunneling. Another game we had all 3 of us trying to protect and take hits for 1 player, he still tunneled. And in more games than I want to count, the killer tunnels right off the hook within seconds. It's so bad right now. Definitely about 90% of my matches.

Okay but rethink ur playstyle:
If u are on gens, killer get only one or maybe two kills

If u try to take hits (and play stupid cuz u dont work on gens) its an easy win for the killer

So next game: just stay on gen and do ur objective

But ask ur self why the killer tunnel: is it really usefull to switch target for the killer after 3 gens are already working and a three gen strategy isnt possible anymore

[Ruca]

The reason is simple,
As ususally Gen Rush is a thing and most of the survivors run stackable speed boosts and 2nd chance Endurances and such killers sense the pressure right from the start of the match.
With that, taking the first survivor out of the match it´s a "must do" in order to be able to slowdown the match.
This is the problem Anti-camping brought in, wich was to expect by the way.
I understand that agaisnt SoloQ/Random players it is quite nasty and should be avoided but these days there are allways SWFs in the mix that "forces" the killer to stand by that strategy and sometimes the only SoloQ player in the match ends up paying because of that SWF being exagerately defient or toxic.
That´s why I strongly support the idea to balance out the level for SoloQ and Killers, and for that SWFs should get a Nerf for each player in it or specific perks locked or something like that. Something that actually counters the advantage they have over others wich gives them the oportunity to abuse game mechanics allowing them to dominate the match at their will.

[AnavriN]

Its not a "must do" its the easy way to force a win. Regardless if there are 5 or 4 or 3 gens, they tunnel the ♥♥♥♥ out of someone. Most players are casuals playing for fun.
Bhvr relies on bandaid fixes never addressing the real problems of the game.
Sometimes you need to tunnel but many unskilled players use it as a "strat" to win and i works very well. Thats the reason why its so common lately.

[Ruca]

Originally posted by 「 AnavriN 」:

Its not a "must do" its the easy way to force a win. Regardless if there are 5 or 4 or 3 gens, they tunnel the ♥♥♥♥ out of someone. Most players are casuals playing for fun.
Bhvr relies on bandaid fixes never addressing the real problems of the game.
Sometimes you need to tunnel but many unskilled players use it as a "strat" to win and i works very well. Thats the reason why its so common lately.

I said "must do", as it´s not an obligation but the game in the state it is now sure does give that feeling. Plus killing the first survivor it´s not exactly force a Win. Most of the killer characters still strugle in a 3vs1 match.
As for Casual players,
2 situations come to mind. First is, that many casual survivors still try hard bringing in Meta builds and being extremely altruistic. Second, kinda relates to the first, killers don´t have a way to know who is casual or not annd can only relly on what it presents before his eyes and those try hard or extremely altruistic survivors are seen as nothing other try hard and a fair early target.

[excited Strawberry]

there is not enough time in most matches to do 8 chases until i kill the first surv. its simple math.
there are 4 surv that have to do 5 generators so when you all spawn on separate gen´s and the first chase takes a bit longer because fresh map and good looper its very possible that 3/5 gen´s pop for 1 hook.
meanwhile surv unhook 10s after the hook with me around the corner and heal under the hook. so jeah i will take advantage out of this, especally when the unhooked one tries to bodyblock with his basic bt or off the record effect

[_source.tv_]

Too high speed repairing generators provoke and force killer for using tunnel, sounds banally but probably one from main reasons. If game get update which give killer more than 240 seconds on play, then this become very good motivation exclude tunneling from mandatory tactics. For killer are matter know how much time he have on doing things for decide must he hurry with main objective or play more calm and slowly

[Ruca]

Originally posted by excited Strawberry:

there is not enough time in most matches to do 8 chases until i kill the first surv. its simple math.
there are 4 surv that have to do 5 generators so when you all spawn on separate gen´s and the first chase takes a bit longer because fresh map and good looper its very possible that 3/5 gen´s pop for 1 hook.
meanwhile surv unhook 10s after the hook with me around the corner and heal under the hook. so jeah i will take advantage out of this, especally when the unhooked one tries to bodyblock with his basic bt or off the record effect

Add that at least 2 hits are required to down a survivor and 3 hooks for each one until the sacrifice happens.
Meaning at least 24 hits and adding Endurance hits and heallings that number goes up to almost half more, it is a lot specially those times when the killer already lost 1 or 2 gens at the first hook after a chase eating a fair share of pallets.

[_source.tv_]

Hope you able understand wishes killer, he care about main objective not less than survivors. Even if survivors repair all generators on map, several times unhook and heal each other but in ending were sacrificed, they not are happy. Same can happens with killers, not every killer glad if he gradually get 8 hooks but in result all 4 survivors managed to escape through gates

[AnavriN]

Okay not a must do but a skill issue for sure. Most of the time i know what i vs. Not always how many of them are in a group but i can see how skilled they are.
We are not talking about the 8 hook curse or making this one boring objectives take longer - this wont fix anything.
Players taking the easiest way to win will take this path until bhvr decides to fix this problem.
But how are they supposed to fix it? As i said, tunneling is needed in certain ways and against good survivors you need this backup strat. Problem is some players think they need to do this from the start of the game regardless of the team they vs because its too easy and the outcome is most of the time satisfying.

[Estellese]

There are a sizeable number of killers who are bad at the game, but firmly believe they are an above-average player. They used to use camping as a crutch to inflate their MMR, but now that doing so has gotten a little harder, and outside of their skill range, they now tunnel instead. Same reason, they can't win a game normally but are 100% certain they belong in the inflated MMR they are currently in.

If they just realized they are in an MMR they don't belong in, and accepted some losses, their MMR would drop and they would face survivors closer to their actual skill, and thus wouldn't feel like it is absolutely necessary anymore. But doing so would require admitting that they aren't as good as they think they are, so tunneling it is.

[QW<RTNY]

Originally posted by Estellese:

There are a sizeable number of killers who are bad at the game, but firmly believe they are an above-average player. They used to use camping as a crutch to inflate their MMR, but now that doing so has gotten a little harder, and outside of their skill range, they now tunnel instead. Same reason, they can't win a game normally but are 100% certain they belong in the inflated MMR they are currently in.

If they just realized they are in an MMR they don't belong in, and accepted some losses, their MMR would drop and they would face survivors closer to their actual skill, and thus wouldn't feel like it is absolutely necessary anymore. But doing so would require admitting that they aren't as good as they think they are, so tunneling it is.

if killer wins a game by tunneling all survivors he still a way more skillful then at least 2 survivors in this match and this is a fact.
you wanna ask me why or how? its simple.
even tunnel survivors require more skill then siting on gen and pressing spacebar at skill checks.
when survivors is more skillful then a killer he will get 1k at max no matter if he camp or tunnel, and he is going to lose.