Is sabotaging hooks useless? / Tool box charges?

[The nubinator]

So I thought I was pretty sure I sabotaged a hook but the killer still hooked me on that hook once he got to me. The very same hook. Not much time had passed, maybe 1 minute.

Also it seems to alert them unless you wear those gloves. Half the items for the toolbox are for sabotaging but sabotaging itself seems very weak and risky. Nobody seems to be doing it?

Using toolboxes for Generators seems almost pointless since they run out of charges so fast?

What am I missing?

[Foffle]

Sabotaging hooks tends to be more useful when you use it to save another survivor from being hooked. You destroy the hook nearest to the killer as they are carrying the survivor to it and ideally the survivor can escape from their grasp. Sabotaged hooks only remain broken for 30 seconds at base, so it tends not to be useful for your own survival.

Toolbox repairs might be more useful with certain add-ons and tend to be most useful to give a quick boost to repairs (perhaps when a gen is close to completion and the killer is drawing near) or to be used to boost the final gen.

[The nubinator]

Originally posted by Foffle:

Sabotaging hooks tends to be more useful when you use it to save another survivor from being hooked. You destroy the hook nearest to the killer as they are carrying the survivor to it and ideally the survivor can escape from their grasp. Sabotaged hooks only remain broken for 30 seconds at base, so it tends not to be useful for your own survival.

Toolbox repairs might be more useful with certain add-ons and tend to be most useful to give a quick boost to repairs (perhaps when a gen is close to completion and the killer is drawing near) or to be used to boost the final gen.

Imo that makes medkits far more powerful. I know nothing of this game but by god they should buff toolboxes! lol.

Seriously though, 30 seconds really only leaves it for that, yeah. I was hoping you could block an area at least so the killer couldn't hook anyone close by. With both limited charges and limited time they kinda seem meh.

[World Guardian of Guthix]

Originally posted by The nubinator:

Originally posted by Foffle:

Sabotaging hooks tends to be more useful when you use it to save another survivor from being hooked. You destroy the hook nearest to the killer as they are carrying the survivor to it and ideally the survivor can escape from their grasp. Sabotaged hooks only remain broken for 30 seconds at base, so it tends not to be useful for your own survival.

Toolbox repairs might be more useful with certain add-ons and tend to be most useful to give a quick boost to repairs (perhaps when a gen is close to completion and the killer is drawing near) or to be used to boost the final gen.

Imo that makes medkits far more powerful. I know nothing of this game but by god they should buff toolboxes! lol.

Seriously though, 30 seconds really only leaves it for that, yeah. I was hoping you could block an area at least so the killer couldn't hook anyone close by. With both limited charges and limited time they kinda seem meh.

No they should not, 30 seconds is a lot in this game and there's ways to break for even longer. You're very new at the game, very soon you will realize how easy is playing as survivor

[The nubinator]

Bruh we are losing like every single survivor game :P not just me but everyoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Maybe its MMR/Elo balanced or something. But the thing is, beyond balancing, it just feels lame that you cant deny large areas with it. Would be way cooler. Its more like a hit and run thing then, but a real sabotage weapon. Like the first guy explained.

[Truth seeker]

Originally posted by The nubinator:

Bruh we are losing like every single survivor game :P not just me but everyoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Maybe its MMR/Elo balanced or something. But the thing is, beyond balancing, it just feels lame that you cant deny large areas with it. Would be way cooler. Its more like a hit and run thing then, but a real sabotage weapon. Like the first guy explained.

It use to be like that and killer were leaving the game or just slug all game. Toolbox like the other said are strong they deny teamate hook and speed up the game.

Now when people say survivor are easy its because the majority of the map favor the survivor and only a small portion of killer can compete against good survivor and a 4 man survive with friend on discord destroy the game balance.

That a matter of opinion but medkit are the best item and toolbox are the second best item in the game. They have insane addon and its just free value most of the time.

[The nubinator]

Originally posted by Truth seeker:

Originally posted by The nubinator:

Bruh we are losing like every single survivor game :P not just me but everyoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Maybe its MMR/Elo balanced or something. But the thing is, beyond balancing, it just feels lame that you cant deny large areas with it. Would be way cooler. Its more like a hit and run thing then, but a real sabotage weapon. Like the first guy explained.

It use to be like that and killer were leaving the game or just slug all game. Toolbox like the other said are strong they deny teamate hook and speed up the game.

Now when people say survivor are easy its because the majority of the map favor the survivor and only a small portion of killer can compete against good survivor and a 4 man survive with friend on discord destroy the game balance.

That a matter of opinion but medkit are the best item and toolbox are the second best item in the game. They have insane addon and its just free value most of the time.

They should just add voice chat in game and buff all killers a bit. Unless there's some kind of hidden MMR/Elo like mentioned in which case things balance out. I know there's a "rank" but is that just cosmetic or does it matter?

[Truth seeker]

Originally posted by The nubinator:

Originally posted by Truth seeker:

It use to be like that and killer were leaving the game or just slug all game. Toolbox like the other said are strong they deny teamate hook and speed up the game.

Now when people say survivor are easy its because the majority of the map favor the survivor and only a small portion of killer can compete against good survivor and a 4 man survive with friend on discord destroy the game balance.

That a matter of opinion but medkit are the best item and toolbox are the second best item in the game. They have insane addon and its just free value most of the time.

They should just add voice chat in game and buff all killers a bit. Unless there's some kind of hidden MMR/Elo like mentioned in which case things balance out. I know there's a "rank" but is that just cosmetic or does it matter?

There a mmr but the mmr is not that great and when a side lack player it goes out the window.

I dont think they will ever add voice chat because they are scare of player toxicity they said that multiple time in the past and its the same reason they dont want to show us the mmr of the lobby so we dont know if we are progressing or not

[The nubinator]

Originally posted by Truth seeker:

Originally posted by The nubinator:

They should just add voice chat in game and buff all killers a bit. Unless there's some kind of hidden MMR/Elo like mentioned in which case things balance out. I know there's a "rank" but is that just cosmetic or does it matter?

There a mmr but the mmr is not that great and when a side lack player it goes out the window.

I dont think they will ever add voice chat because they are scare of player toxicity they said that multiple time in the past and its the same reason they dont want to show us the mmr of the lobby so we dont know if we are progressing or not

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, especially for literally making a game about mass murderers. This world is like in that Carlin sketch where he raves against the 8 dirty words but where you can show murder and war and famine on TV but worse lol. I guess its what we wanted so we get it.